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Fishy said:
Craig Forth had one incredible game as a high school junior and it got him a Syracuse offer.

He took that offer and with a lot of hard work and four years of Jim Boeheim's best instruction, he eventually turned into a pretty good math teacher.
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Hell of a job by the DBO to get him the grades he needed to get there.
 
last time we "got the wrong guy" (read wrong Lamb), he turned into a key player in our 2011 national championship run.

as a matter of fact, I remember the board being distraught over that entire class

Lamb, Bazz, NG, TO and somebody else
 
but while on the subject of recruits, can we ever land some 6'11" lumberjack / farmhand that nobody can push around who can rebound and make 10 foot shots? let's try to steal one of those kids from Utah St or New Mexico or something. Or how about some white kid that does nothing but run through screens and make three pointers when you need them?

then again, maybe I should just let the staff that wins championships keep doing what they do best

Sometimes it's perplexing being a UConn fan. Can't win with us, can't win without us either
 
willie99 said:
last time we "got the wrong guy" (read wrong Lamb), he turned into a key player in our 2011 national championship run.

as a matter of fact, I remember the board being distraught over that entire class

Lamb, Bazz, NG, TO and somebody else
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I don't know if you were intentionally leaving Roscoe out, but he was the "star" of that class coming in, and the only reason anyone felt any hope. Some were pretty sure JLamb could be a diamond in the rough. Bazz was a re-classification we thought might help us down the road, and Gif/TO were in no way exciting.

It's sort of like that class where we aimed for a bunch of players (Lawson, Ellington, Durant) and got Sticks, Dyson and a number of others...the players we missed weren't slouches by any means, but things turned out alright for us in the end. Better in the 2011 year, but a Final Four is nothing to scoff at.
 
tzznandrew said:
I don't know if you were intentionally leaving Roscoe out, but he was the "star" of that class coming in, and the only reason anyone felt any hope. Some were pretty sure JLamb could be a diamond in the rough. Bazz was a re-classification we thought might help us down the road, and Gif/TO were in no way exciting.

It's sort of like that class where we aimed for a bunch of players (Lawson, Ellington, Durant) and got Sticks, Dyson and a number of others...the players we missed weren't slouches by any means, but things turned out alright for us in the end. Better in the 2011 year, but a Final Four is nothing to scoff at.
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OMG no, I totally forgot about him. I knew I was leaving "one guy" out, I couldn't think of who it was and I'm laughing at myself for forgetting about Roscoe.

that's a pretty darn big omission by me
 
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willie99 said:
OMG no, I totally forgot about him. I knew I was leaving "one guy" out, I couldn't think of who it was and I'm laughing at myself for forgetting about Roscoe.

that's a pretty darn big omission by me
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Happens to the best of us.
 
pnow15 said:
So, St. Thomas is in a championship game against a team literally of McDonald's All American types. In this the most important game of their lives to date, this kid's team mates are feeding him the ball without any hesitation. In fact, they are looking for him. Does this portend to you that this kid can not shoot? They are hoping he will get lucky for this one game.
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That may be true, but there's a reason he doesn't have any D1 scholarship offers. I don't think its because he is flying under the radar. Comparing his lack of offers to Niels Giffey, who was an international prospect, is a stretch, too.
 
Ridiculous thread and we certainly got the "right guy" but I have no problem looking into any kid that can shoot the ball. It's a red flag that he doesn't have any major offers but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't capable of making an impact on the D1 level.
 
Stairmaster said:
http://verbalcommits.com/players/ryan-funk

Well he's gotten his first D1 offers. But we don't compete with Marist and Niagara for recruits -- come on, even I know that.
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Off course you realize that if that if an all time NBA draft were held today against the two above mentioned schools for a
point guard and a big man, the two guys picked would not be from UC0nn.
 
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pnow15 said:
Off course you realize that if that if an all time NBA draft were held today against the two above mentioned schools for a
point guard and a big men, the two guys picked would not be from UC0nn.
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It's clear that you haven't followed either school since Rik Smits or Calvin Murphy played for them.

In 2015, we're kind of a bigger deal than they are.
 
Stairmaster said:
It's clear that you haven't followed either school since Rik Smits or Calvin Murphy played for them.

In 2015, we're kind of a bigger deal than they are.
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He also got an offer from St. Mary's.
In about three years, he will be one of those guys lighting up the score board in some tourney and people will say,
"How come we never get a shooter like that?"
 
Whether or not the kid can play. "the Wrong Guy" just blows out the OP's post.
 
pnow15 said:
He also got an offer from St. Mary's.
In about three years, he will be one of those guys lighting up the score board in some tourney and people will say,
"How come we never get a shooter like that?"
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This thread has to be a troll job. There's literally no other explanation.
 
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Can't shine his shoes. Irregardless. I could care less about this.
 
Fishy said:
Craig Forth had one incredible game as a high school junior and it got him a Syracuse offer.

He took that offer and with a lot of hard work and four years of Jim Boeheim's best instruction, he eventually turned into a pretty good math teacher.
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Johnny Flynn had a few great games in the Big East tournament in 09' and got himself a nice NBA contract, I believe he is now smoking cigarettes in a parking lot in Italy while help park cars for some Euro League
 
David 76 said:
Can't shine his shoes. Irregardless. I could care less about this.
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I hated every part of that post. Nails on a chalkboard. Good job refudiating his point.

Well done.
 
For all those with any remaining shards of interest:

 
tzznandrew said:
I seem to remember Giffey being the golden child (compared to others) despite his offensive tentativeness. He was a solid if unspectacular defender, got to some loose balls, but didn't contribute much on offense. Yet the board venerated him.
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You must have missed some of the action. The kid did OK by me. Always hustled, always helped on D, rebounded bigger than he was, defended bigger than he was, and when the spirit moved him, shot 3s better than most of the people we've ever had. Was he Ray Allen? nope, not Rip either, or Caron, or Rudy. He was a kid that left UConn with 2 NC rings, and helped get both.
 
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UCweCONN said:
Two names: Mike LeBlanc and Scottie Harrelson. How'd that work out? Two guys who came in with reputations as three point shooters and little else. They found that teams don't leave you open at the high D1 level and if your open shots also don't fall, you bring nothing to the table. If this is the direction we should go as a program, we're in BIG trouble.
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Chad Wise too....remember that guy?
 
uconnfan68 said:
You must have missed some of the action. The kid did OK by me. Always hustled, always helped on D, rebounded bigger than he was, defended bigger than he was, and when the spirit moved him, shot 3s better than most of the people we've ever had. Was he Ray Allen? nope, not Rip either, or Caron, or Rudy. He was a kid that left UConn with 2 NC rings, and helped get both.
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A priceless look was the disbelief on the faces of the huge UK front line when this unassuming undersized German guy seemed to get every rebound and loose ball in that game. /h
 
No doubt it was the game he played against Brewster that got him his scholarship.
 
uconnfan68 said:
You must have missed some of the action. The kid did OK by me. Always hustled, always helped on D, rebounded bigger than he was, defended bigger than he was, and when the spirit moved him, shot 3s better than most of the people we've ever had. Was he Ray Allen? nope, not Rip either, or Caron, or Rudy. He was a kid that left UConn with 2 NC rings, and helped get both.
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So, context for my comments matter--someone talked about Giff getting crap, and I suggested he was venerated here for 3 underwhelming years. You prove my point.

I love the kid, particularly his senior year he was indispensable. We definitely don't win 2014 without him. Much of what you point to are attributes that he brought to 2014. In 2011 he brought some defense in the title game against an overmatched Butler team, but he played 8 minutes and scored 0 points with 1 rebound against Kentucky and was a member of the trillionaire club against Arizona. That team was Kemba, AO, Jeremy, Shabazz, and Roscoe. Coombs-McDaniels and Chuck played more and scored more than him. He was a nice role player, but he was hardly irreplaceable.

Before 2014, he took only 89 3s, and didn't hit them at a particularly good rate (33.7%), played relatively few minutes, passed up open looks, but hustled despite being overmatched. He was a solid, if unspectacular player who was treated with kid gloves here. We all liked him, but he made lots of mistakes and people pretended he didn't. His PER his first three years was 8.9, 12.2, and 12.7

His senior year, though, he did everything he was praised for. And he deserves all the credit in the world for staying with the team through the transition. My point wasn't to bash him, it was to point out that he earned praise beyond what he did until his senior year, and I don't know why you dredged up my comment to make it seem like I was saying something I wasn't.
 
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