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Would you have gone for two?

uconnbill said:
Playing for OT at home is usually a good thing, but with this team who knows?

If Mora went for two and missed the board would have killed him
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I don’t think Mora is concerned about the board if he is he should resign. First 29 minutes tonight may have been
our best in years.
 
SuperHuski said:
This was a judgement call, so I'm not saying Mora was right or wrong. We have the benefit of hindsight which he didn't.

I would've gone for two. We had momentum. USU's defense was gassed. Their d-line looked especially so. One of the starting DBs left the previous play. We had Jelani "Mack Truck" Stafford ready to explode. 538 analytics tells you it's a good move. We haven't been able to stop USU's offense in the 2nd half, and I felt even less good about our defense vs their offense in OT.
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No. If you were playing a far superior team, sure. Against an inferior team, not inferior to UCONN, but inferior to almost all of college football, you kick the point. You make that point 95 pct of the time.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
That’s a tough call, but if we were going for two, line up as though Stafford is getting the handoff and pitch it to Rosa.
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I was thinking a little different, line up Stafford as a fullback, fake to Rosa and let the big man sweep. All eleven were stacked and there is no way they could stop 300# from gaining two yards on a sweep. ;)
Forte said:
PAT's shouldn't be as hard as UConn makes them
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10 for 11 on the season. Perfect no, but not abysmal either.:)
uconnbill said:
If Mora went for two and missed the board would have killed him
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No attack @ you bill as I realize your support of the program. Just have to think Jim could care less of what the board would think and not a single one here signs his check. He wants to win just as much as those of us still hanging in.
I understand your point though. :cool:
 
Its a lost season, you need to go for two just to try to get the win and avoid OT. A made XP gets us to lose in OT because you can't ask our offense to score over and over again.
 
At 0-4 and with momentum I was definitely hoping they'd go for two. Mora was aggressive on 4th down calls throughout the day, I was hoping for one more gamble... but I also expected that he would kick the ball, that's the standard play, you extend the game.

The blocked kick is simply absolutely unacceptable execution.. the first thing you teach any player on a kick team is you step down and block inside first. Unfortunately he stepped outside... blown play and it was just too easy for Utah State.
 
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There's another factor involved with going for 2. If you went for 1 and made it, I think Utah State would have played for OT. If UConn made the 2 point conversion, Utah State would have tried to win the game with 40 seconds plus 1 time out and probably starting on their 25 yard line. They only needed a field goal to win.
 
There's no excuse not going for 2.

Aside from the fact we were 0-4, had momentum, were having a hard time containing Utah State while on D....HAS ANYONE SEEN OUR SPECIAL TEAMS THE LAST DECADE?!?
 
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Did more do a post-game presser or did he sneak out the back? Nothing on the radio post game.
 
I mean the way the offense was tearing up the defense on that drive going for 2 makes sense especially with Stafford being unstoppable. But I also understand going for the PAT and tying it, taking it to overtime. The offense was able to keep up so I'm really on the frame of mind that either 2 PT or the PAT was the right answer regardless of outcome. Had the TE literally did anything to stop the defender we'd be having a much different conversation. Special teams is the reason we lost this game ultimately.
 
Woof 101 said:
I was thinking a little different, line up Stafford as a fullback, fake to Rosa and let the big man sweep. All eleven were stacked and there is no way they could stop 300# from gaining two yards on a sweep. ;)

10 for 11 on the season. Perfect no, but not abysmal either.:)

No attack @ you bill as I realize your support of the program. Just have to think Jim could care less of what the board would think and not a single one here signs his check. He wants to win just as much as those of us still hanging in.
I understand your point though. :cool:
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I thought of that too, got tired of typing. Lol. In any event, either way works.
 
I don't trust our offense to get 2 yards on first and ten, let alone in a game-deciding two-point conversion. There was no wrong decision there, but obviously that execution on the XP was wrong.
 
I love the amount of people saying "when you're 0-4, you go for 2."

The fact that you're bringing up a bad record as justification for doing it inherently shows that you believe it's the worse option under normal circumstances. The season is never over because recruiting is never over...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love the amount of people saying "when you're 0-4, you go for 2."

The fact that you're bringing up a bad record as justification for doing it inherently shows that you believe it's the worse option under normal circumstances. The season is never over because recruiting is never over...
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Yes. You're dealing with players who thrive on competition and emotion. I don't think you always need to do it but I think you tell your guys who are struggling "take this win".

Look, I think there's a lot of fans here that are losing the damned minds. I wish they'd stop. But in the position they were in with an offense is humming. Do it.
 
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Patman said:
Yes. You're dealing with players who thrive on competition and emotion. I don't think you always need to do it but I think you tell your guys who are struggling "take this win".

Look, I think there's a lot of fans here that are losing the damned minds. I wish they'd stop. But in the position they were in with an offense is humming. Do it.
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If the offense is humming, then you don't need to do it. You're at home. Against a team that is not better than you. And you're "humming". Extending the game is then in your favor...
 
UConnDan97 said:
If the offense is humming, then you don't need to do it. You're at home. Against a team that is not better than you. And you're "humming". Extending the game is then in your favor...
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Not if your defense can't hold up.
 
Typicall I respect a coach's decision to go for 2 in that situation.

But we have Charlton sending in the play.

I'll go with it being a good call. A tie might be like kissing your sister, but if you've never kissed anyone...
 
Patman said:
Yes. You're dealing with players who thrive on competition and emotion. I don't think you always need to do it but I think you tell your guys who are struggling "take this win".

Look, I think there's a lot of fans here that are losing the damned minds. I wish they'd stop. But in the position they were in with an offense is humming. Do it.
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There’s a lot of snake oil being sold on this board, and people like you are buying it.
 
UConnJim said:
There's another factor involved with going for 2. If you went for 1 and made it, I think Utah State would have played for OT. If UConn made the 2 point conversion, Utah State would have tried to win the game with 40 seconds plus 1 time out and probably starting on their 25 yard line. They only needed a field goal to win.
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I agree. What happened at the end of the first half, & the way our secondary gives up big plays, was an argument for not going for 2. Would have been different if there were 10 seconds left.
If we tied it, I think Utah State would have played it safer (maybe try one deep route) & otherwise play for OT.
 
First Mora should not have used the timeout at the 40
Second mark. He should have taken another 10-15 seconds off and used it if he really wanted to use one tbere.
Second tbeir backup QB was Joe Montana. In the second half they put gained us something like 360-160.
If you have a chance to potentially win the game with one play from a couple yards out there you take it. Now if I was Utah State I’d think the opposite.
And with 40 seconds left Utah state is going for the win regardless. You think they were afraid of our secondary?
 
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One of the biggest plays of the game that is now invisible. The dropped interception in the third quarter when we still had the lead.

And that is symbolic of this team. When we need someone to make a play. They simply don't. And it's not the great play we need. Just block on the extra point, just catch the ball when the opposing QB hits you in the hands, don't throw the ball when you are past the line of scrimmage in the red zone. Simple stuff.
 
I don’t know. I understand both perspectives. I am not certain USU would have just played for OT if we made the PAT, I think they still would have tried for a last shot FG to win.

I think for me, at least, a 2 pt conversion attempt would have made me feel like they were trying to be aggressive and force USU to win it. So in that way I kind of wish we had done it. For me it would have been less frustrating than blowing a freaking PAT and losing.

I think even if we went into OT, UConn’s D was so bad that we would have given up a TD with ease and the game would have been over anyway.
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love the amount of people saying "when you're 0-4, you go for 2."

The fact that you're bringing up a bad record as justification for doing it inherently shows that you believe it's the worse option under normal circumstances. The season is never over because recruiting is never over...
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Uh, yeah no kidding going for 2 is a "riskier" option based on percentages one.

The risk in the context of the season is a lot lower when you're not competing for anything but respectability as opposed to getting a win.

Everything has context, I thought this much is given?
 
We're 0-4 and have looked horrendous all season. We actually play a decent game, have a great drive and have a chance to win this and possibly turn morale around. I'd absolutely go for two. You could never predict a blocked PAT so I can't say, "Told you so". However, given our team's morale (3 players leave or enter portal midseason), what is there to lose trying to pull out the W.

In the end, Mor makes the big bucks and has the experience. I just would have liked to see them go for a season changing attempt.
 
Do we have a reliable 2 yard play? Rosa repeatedly gets stuffed in short yardage situations. Stafford is good for one yard, I 'm not sure about 2. I guess we could have rolled out with a run pass option.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
There’s a lot of snake oil being sold on this board, and people like you are buying it.
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After everything UConn Football has been through, they shouldn't have to have any more "huge wins" for the very SURVIVAL of the program. Enough is enough. It's not worth it anymore.
 
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