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I thought NY got really sloppy, lots of unforced TOs. Kind of messed around and let Atlanta back in it. But they got it done.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I thought NY got really sloppy, lots of unforced TOs. Kind of messed around and let Atlanta back in it. But they got it done.
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And getting it done on the road is good enough. Take the "W" and get to the airport.

If Johannes does not suddenly turn into a mirage, this team is firing on all cylinders due to her ability to beat her defender and then make the proper decision to shoot or pass. Before MJ came, only Ionescu did that on this team. Now you have two. Good perimeter movement and Stef has always moved the ball quickly.
 
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I wonder if Minnesota will resign Milic, who was performing well and being used to great effect. (Of course, Natalie "Ace" Achonwa is back to help spell Sylvia Fowles, while Jess Shepard can play both center or big forward.). Still, Milic can be a dynamic scorer. She'll be a good pick-up for someone.
 
Geew1992 said:
Phoenix and Tina Charles have agreed to a divorce…
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Charles seems like a wonderful person but if I'm a GM of a team in the playoff picture, I'd be very wary of taking her in, especially midseason. The next place she lands next will be her 4th team in 3 seasons, and this is the 4th time she's demanded a trade or jumped ship when things aren't going her way.

Phoenix had a ton of talent but their original plan of playing 4 volume shooters (plus Deshields as a 5th starter) was going to require some serious ego check and sacrifice by Olympians who are all used to being a go to player and having the ball in their hands quite frequently. The season is young and they can turn things around but they've been extremely underwhelming this year.
 
bballnut90 said:
Charles seems like a wonderful person but if I'm a GM of a team in the playoff picture, I'd be very wary of taking her in, especially midseason. The next place she lands next will be her 4th team in 3 seasons, and this is the 4th time she's demanded a trade or jumped ship when things aren't going her way.

Phoenix had a ton of talent but their original plan of playing 4 volume shooters (plus Deshields as a 5th starter) was going to require some serious ego check and sacrifice by Olympians who are all used to being a go to player and having the ball in their hands quite frequently. The season is young and they can turn things around but they've been extremely underwhelming this year.
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Don’t know if she demanded anything. Don’t think she demanded a trade to Washington or Phoenix. And from what I read, it was mutual. I find it hard to believe she won’t land some where
 
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Geew1992 said:
Don’t know if she demanded anything. Don’t think she demanded a trade to Washington or Phoenix. And from what I read, it was mutual. I find it hard to believe she won’t land some where
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She threatened to sit out a full season if she wasn't traded by the Sun many years ago which is what I was referring to.

USA TODAY

Connecticut Sun trade C/F Tina Charles to New York Liberty for Alyssa Thomas and Kelsey Bone
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com


I don't know what happened this time but she's leaving midseason to chase a title with another team. Guessing we'll find out more in the coming days. Looks like she's probably headed to Seattle.

 
bballnut90 said:
She threatened to sit out a full season if she wasn't traded by the Sun many years ago which is what I was referring to.

USA TODAY

Connecticut Sun trade C/F Tina Charles to New York Liberty for Alyssa Thomas and Kelsey Bone
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com


I don't know what happened this time but she's leaving midseason to chase a title with another team. Guessing we'll find out more in the coming days. Looks like she's probably headed to Seattle.

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Dee talked her into signing with Phoenix to get a championship, then Griner happened. She signed with Washington, and Clark and EDD didn't play. Not her fault that the teams she went to had unforseen problems.
Seattle will be a good spot for Tina, a good team that needs all the things she brings to the table.
 
baggerbob said:
Dee talked her into signing with Phoenix to get a championship, then Griner happened. She signed with Washington, and Clark and EDD didn't play. Not her fault that the teams she went to had unforseen problems.
Seattle will be a good spot for Tina, a good team that needs all the things she brings to the table.
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Phoenix still had 3 Olympians and is in 10th place in the league. Washington had an upgraded roster from 2020 and still finished just 12-20, missing the playoffs for the first time in 5 years. No she didn't get to play with the stars she expected to but both teams should've safely made the playoffs.

Seattle on paper seems like a good fit, although it likely bumps a thriving Ezi Magbegor out of the starting lineup, or takes away minutes from her. She's quietly putting together a very good season and is one of the most improved players in the league. We'll see how it Charles in Seattle translates to success. The talent and combination of youth/experience is there. The coaching on the other hand is a major question mark.
 
bballnut90 said:
She threatened to sit out a full season if she wasn't traded by the Sun many years ago which is what I was referring to.

USA TODAY

Connecticut Sun trade C/F Tina Charles to New York Liberty for Alyssa Thomas and Kelsey Bone
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com


I don't know what happened this time but she's leaving midseason to chase a title with another team. Guessing we'll find out more in the coming days. Looks like she's probably headed to Seattle.

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I was talking about the New York and Washington. I don’t think she forced herself out of there.
 
bballnut90 said:
Phoenix still had 3 Olympians and is in 10th place in the league. Washington had an upgraded roster from 2020 and still finished just 12-20, missing the playoffs for the first time in 5 years. No she didn't get to play with the stars she expected to but both teams should've safely made the playoffs.

Seattle on paper seems like a good fit, although it likely bumps a thriving Ezi Magbegor out of the starting lineup, or takes away minutes from her. She's quietly putting together a very good season and is one of the most improved players in the league. We'll see how it Charles in Seattle translates to success. The talent and combination of youth/experience is there. The coaching on the other hand is a major question mark.
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Right now the big 3 of Stewie, Jewell, and Ezi are playing to many minutes. Sue has January, Tolbert has no t been good, and Lavender most of the time is bad, Gabby can back up Jewell. Ezi really is a 4 playing the 5.Gabby can play 3 or 4 positions, Prince has 1 good game out of every 5.
Seattle's bench has been outscored in 12 straight games. Seattle has no idea when or if Mercedes will be able to play.
 
I see the likely scenario if she goes to Seattle, or my preference Vegas, to be the same as the third big in a three big rotation. At Seattle, with Ezi and Stewie, and at Vegas with Ajai and Dearica. A good fit at either.
 
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oldhuskie said:
I see the likely scenario if she goes to Seattle, or my preference Vegas, to be the same as the third big in a three big rotation. At Seattle, with Ezi and Stewie, and at Vegas with Ajai and Dearica. A good fit at either.
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Vegas has dynamite chemistry and is the clear title frontrunner through 1/2 of the season. The last thing they need is to shake up chemistry by adding in a player of Tina's caliber. Seattle makes more sense but it's still a big risk IMO.
 
baggerbob said:
Right now the big 3 of Stewie, Jewell, and Ezi are playing to many minutes. Sue has January, Tolbert has no t been good, and Lavender most of the time is bad, Gabby can back up Jewell. Ezi really is a 4 playing the 5.Gabby can play 3 or 4 positions, Prince has 1 good game out of every 5.
Seattle's bench has been outscored in 12 straight games. Seattle has no idea when or if Mercedes will be able to play.
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The big 3 average 30-31.5 mpg, I'm not seeing that as overexertion although their minutes as of late have been on the high side. Adding in Charles isn't like adding in a quality backup though to rest your starters, you're getting one of the most prolific scorers in league history who is still playing at a high level. Are you thinking she comes off the bench or Seattle goes with 3 bigs in the starting lineup? At a minimum I think Tina commands 25 minutes per game considering she's never averaged less than 31 mpg in her 12 seasons. Her presence results a major drop in minutes for Magbegor, (who despite being a 4 leads the league in blocks), or it pushes Stewart to more of a perimeter role as a 3. I think Stewart will thrive anywhere she is on the court, but I don't think it's optimal to have your best player playing out of position to accommodate Charles. I just don't see it as an ideal fit for Seattle, but for all I know it could pay off big time. I guess we'll see how it pans out.
 
bballnut90 said:
The big 3 average 30-31.5 mpg, I'm not seeing that as overexertion although their minutes as of late have been on the high side. Adding in Charles isn't like adding in a quality backup though to rest your starters, you're getting one of the most prolific scorers in league history who is still playing at a high level. Are you thinking she comes off the bench or Seattle goes with 3 bigs in the starting lineup? At a minimum I think Tina commands 25 minutes per game considering she's never averaged less than 31 mpg in her 12 seasons. Her presence results a major drop in minutes for Magbegor, (who despite being a 4 leads the league in blocks), or it pushes Stewart to more of a perimeter role as a 3. I think Stewart will thrive anywhere she is on the court, but I don't think it's optimal to have your best player playing out of position to accommodate Charles. I just don't see it as an ideal fit for Seattle, but for all I know it could pay off big time. I guess we'll see how it pans out.
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Looks like Seattle, like Tina Charles, might be all in on a championship (or bust) push this season, if they go ahead with this signing.
Magbegor is playing at an exceptional level right now, in the games I've seen. Lots of energy, as usual, but now she's picking all the right times and spots (yes, the proverbial light bulb went off).

So, could TC accept being part of a rotation, along with Magbegor and Stewie. Like you, I believe Stewie can play anywhere but she's the best player on this team (league?) and I don't think one should mess with that. And, if you swing Stewie out to wing, you lose Gabby's defensive ability and speed. If anyone loses minutes here, it's Lavender.

Will Seattle and Tina -- and Seattle players -- all be on the same page as what her role is? That's kind of critical in my eyes, as Em Adler in The Next brings up.

https://www./wnba/seattle-storm/seattle-storm-sign-tina-charles-buyout-phoenix-mercury/

As for Phoenix, will they resign Kristine Anigwe? Or move Gustafsson into the starting lineup and sign a Milic or Alanna Smith to provide some depth? Stay tuned.
 
bballnut90 said:
The big 3 average 30-31.5 mpg, I'm not seeing that as overexertion although their minutes as of late have been on the high side. Adding in Charles isn't like adding in a quality backup though to rest your starters, you're getting one of the most prolific scorers in league history who is still playing at a high level. Are you thinking she comes off the bench or Seattle goes with 3 bigs in the starting lineup? At a minimum I think Tina commands 25 minutes per game considering she's never averaged less than 31 mpg in her 12 seasons. Her presence results a major drop in minutes for Magbegor, (who despite being a 4 leads the league in blocks), or it pushes Stewart to more of a perimeter role as a 3. I think Stewart will thrive anywhere she is on the court, but I don't think it's optimal to have your best player playing out of position to accommodate Charles. I just don't see it as an ideal fit for Seattle, but for all I know it could pay off big time. I guess we'll see how it pans out.
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Stewie was the best wing in the Olympics playing alongside A'ja and Griner. And Ezi is guick enough to play 3 positions, just like Stewie.
 
I guess losing 2 times in a row to the Lynx can make you reevaluate your situation.
 
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Diana going Scorched Earth (and not in a good way). in Q1 vs Dallas :oops:

T's, Over the top physical play. Shooting too quick I think the Tina move might have really pissed her off.
 
bballnut90 said:
Phoenix still had 3 Olympians and is in 10th place in the league. Washington had an upgraded roster from 2020 and still finished just 12-20, missing the playoffs for the first time in 5 years. No she didn't get to play with the stars she expected to but both teams should've safely made the playoffs.

Seattle on paper seems like a good fit, although it likely bumps a thriving Ezi Magbegor out of the starting lineup, or takes away minutes from her. She's quietly putting together a very good season and is one of the most improved players in the league. We'll see how it Charles in Seattle translates to success. The talent and combination of youth/experience is there. The coaching on the other hand is a major question mark.
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Not sure Ezi will be the one to lose a starting spot. I might bring Gabby off the bench and fit Tina in between Ezi and Stewie. Stewie has proven in the Olympics and at UConn that she can quite effectively play the SF.
 
Dallas Wings need a coaching change in a bad way. Who leaves your best scorer Arike that long on the bench? Diana took over after that.
 
eebmg said:
Diana going Scorched Earth (and not in a good way). in Q1 vs Dallas :oops:

T's, Over the top physical play. Shooting too quick I think the Tina move might have really pissed her off.
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I wouldn't be shocked if Phoenix goes on a tear after this. Tina leaving probably adds a lot of fuel to the fire and makes the team play with a chip on its shoulder. Not to mention they definitely have the horses (SDS/Taurasi) to do it.
 
Dillon77 said:
Looks like Seattle, like Tina Charles, might be all in on a championship (or bust) push this season, if they go ahead with this signing.
Magbegor is playing at an exceptional level right now, in the games I've seen. Lots of energy, as usual, but now she's picking all the right times and spots (yes, the proverbial light bulb went off).

So, could TC accept being part of a rotation, along with Magbegor and Stewie. Like you, I believe Stewie can play anywhere but she's the best player on this team (league?) and I don't think one should mess with that. And, if you swing Stewie out to wing, you lose Gabby's defensive ability and speed. If anyone loses minutes here, it's Lavender.

Will Seattle and Tina -- and Seattle players -- all be on the same page as what her role is? That's kind of critical in my eyes, as Em Adler in The Next brings up.

https://www./wnba/seattle-storm/seattle-storm-sign-tina-charles-buyout-phoenix-mercury/

As for Phoenix, will they resign Kristine Anigwe? Or move Gustafsson into the starting lineup and sign a Milic or Alanna Smith to provide some depth? Stay tuned.
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Lavender is a liability anytime she's on the floor. She isn't good at anything, has been a sub on any good team. If Russell was playing Lavender would be glued to the bench.
 
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Sparks win at Seattle 85-77

Stewie 28 pts 7 reb 6 assts
Bird 6 pts 6 assists and 3 rebounds
Gabby 11 points 5 rebounds 4 assists

Nelson Ododa 6 points 8 rebounds and 1 asst
KLS 17 pts, 6 rebounds 6 assists, played 39 minutes(all 20 in the 2nd half)
 
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ochoopsfan said:
Sparks win at Seattle 85-77

Stewie 28 pts 7 reb 6 assts
Bird 6 pts 6 assists and 3 rebounds
Gabby 11 points 5 rebounds 4 assists

Nelson Ododa 6 points 8 rebounds and 1 asst
KLS 17 pts, 6 rebounds 6 assists, played 39 minutes(all 20 in the 2nd half)
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Well now the Sun and Aces have both lost back to back games. And the Storm lost to LA who looked completely hapless the previous game. Yep, this year is wacky! Oh, LA and Phoenix won on the same day. I think I'm officially gonna give up any hope of having any idea who will win any given game.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Well now the Sun and Aces have both lost back to back games. And the Storm lost to LA who looked completely hapless the previous game. Yep, this year is wacky! Oh, LA and Phoenix won on the same day. I think I'm officially gonna give up any hope of having any idea who will win any given game.
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Like you, I'm scratching my head. All three visiting teams win last night.

Some thoughts:
  • KLS with her best game of the year, while Jewell and Sue seem to have snoozed.
  • Mercury, whom some thought would've mailed it in, stay strong and determined and win out.
Dallas takes another cha-cha step backwards. If Gray, Mabrey or Ogunbowale are off, the balance seems off. Gray missed last night's game.
- Very competitive in LV last night.
 
Nice UConn flavor in UConn West (LA - Seattle) highlights.



Lots of UConn player highlights but Geno might be pissed with our defense

KLS stands out to me in how so much of her activity was in the 2nd half and 4th Q. Did a number on Gabby with about 3+ minutes left.
 
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