WNBA Collective Bargaining

[NycUcWbbFan]

The NY Liberty owner and Rizzotti are Engelbert’s nannies. [Article]

• see also Post #26 for context on the last two paragraphs.

 

[azfan]

Owners still playing Chicken on the revenue sharing issue. It's My Hope that the players hold arm on gross rather than net:

But the parties still need to agree on a new revenue sharing system.

Jackson reiterated Friday that a system "tied to revenue in a meaningful way" remains a priority for the players.

WNBA: Urgent to reach new CBA by Monday to not impact season

WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert told reporters that there is urgency to get a new CBA done by Monday to avoid disruptions to the preseason calendar, including training camp and preseason games.

www.espn.com

 

[Bigboote]

Owners still playing Chicken on the revenue sharing issue. It's My Hope that the players hold arm on gross rather than net:

But the parties still need to agree on a new revenue sharing system.

Jackson reiterated Friday that a system "tied to revenue in a meaningful way" remains a priority for the players.

WNBA: Urgent to reach new CBA by Monday to not impact season

WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert told reporters that there is urgency to get a new CBA done by Monday to avoid disruptions to the preseason calendar, including training camp and preseason games.

www.espn.com

I still think that in order for it to be gross, they need to open the books. And I don't see that happenin', and if the W negotiators think the players would go for it, they think very highly of their ability to hoodwink. Would you trust the WNBA management to give you a real number for something with no evidence whatsoever?

 

[NycUcWbbFan]

Owners still playing Chicken on the revenue sharing issue. It's My Hope that the players hold arm on gross rather than net:

But the parties still need to agree on a new revenue sharing system.

Jackson reiterated Friday that a system "tied to revenue in a meaningful way" remains a priority for the players.

WNBA: Urgent to reach new CBA by Monday to not impact season

WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert told reporters that there is urgency to get a new CBA done by Monday to avoid disruptions to the preseason calendar, including training camp and preseason games.

www.espn.com

“Contrived Predicament Bargaining” is not an actual term, but it describes Engelbert’s/ Silver’s strategy.

• There have been inexplicable lollygagging lulls on Engelbert’s part in responding to player union offers since the last All-Star break when players were disappointed at the WNBA’s initial response;
• Game Theory-wise, it is a legitimate strategy for a non-cooperative player who also likes a season to begin, but likes to keep certain advantages (closed books, untouchable revenue streams);
• Doing close to nothing (there were only two articles of agreement, since as late as December), “movement” only coming very lately, and announcing an arbitrary deadline to the non-cooperative counterparty is par for the course for Engelbert (as well as her feeding various gas-lighting media narratives);
• It is not lost on the players who have authorized the union to be able to call a strike;
• Ogwumike’s “negotiating in good faith” line has been uttered in different ways, notably above and in the January lull of the negotiations.
• There was a recent meeting that Engelbert did not attend but the NY Liberty owner did (see post 26), where the players presumably lambasted Engelbert and her team airing their grievances; the recent tone of negotiations and the NY Liberty owner’s ongoing involvement are hopeful signs.

 

[azfan]

“Contrived Predicament Bargaining” is not an actual term, but it describes Engelbert’s/ Silver’s strategy.

• There have been inexplicable lollygagging lulls on Engelbert’s part in responding to player union offers since the last All-Star break when players were disappointed at the WNBA’s initial response;
• Game Theory-wise, it is a legitimate strategy for a non-cooperative player who also likes a season to begin, but likes to keep certain advantages (closed books, untouchable revenue streams);
• Doing close to nothing (there were only two articles of agreement, since as late as December), “movement” only coming very lately, and announcing an arbitrary deadline to the non-cooperative counterparty is par for the course for Engelbert (as well as her feeding various gas-lighting media narratives);
• It is not lost on the players who have authorized the union to be able to call a strike;
• Ogwumike’s “negotiating in good faith” line has been uttered in different ways, notably above and in the January lull of the negotiations.
• There was a recent meeting that Engelbert did not attend but the NY Liberty owner did (see post 26), where the players presumably lambasted Engelbert and her team airing their grievances; the recent tone of negotiations and the NY Liberty owner’s ongoing involvement are hopeful signs.

I see behind all this the hand of Adam Silver and he's really using the WNBA commission as a stooge.

Well I'm very pleased that the significant progress made both in terms of salary and in travel it's clear that the NBA and WNBA was never negotiating and good faith. I'm wondering about the length of this CBA.

The next negotiation will be very interesting in terms of movement toward real revenue sharing.

 

[NycUcWbbFan]

I see behind all this the hand of Adam Silver and he's really using the WNBA commission as a stooge.

Well I'm very pleased that the significant progress made both in terms of salary and in travel it's clear that the NBA and WNBA was never negotiating and good faith. I'm wondering about the length of this CBA.

The next negotiation will be very interesting in terms of movement toward real revenue sharing.

Moving closer to the NBA Model:

WNBA Players Didn’t Just Get Paid—They Took Control With New CBA - The Ringer