I'm trying not to laugh but I legitimately feel bad for Wisconsin fans. I can confirm that at least 4 top coaches (3 mid-majors) turned them down.
@bballnut90 @YoDore
Per your point, Jonathan Tsipis -- who had success at George Washington before also not being able to crack Wisconsin -- helped out Megan Duffy at Marquette (returning the favor he did when hiring her at GW as an assistant) before taking over a 6-24 team at Western Carolina. He led them to a 13-17 record this year, which is a solid first step forward. In the case of Missouri, a coach has a payout and doe some TV work before landing the next gig, while the coach she replaces pulls a horizontal move.
Kellie Harper absolutely is dropping down. Missouri and Tennessee share a conference, but they don’t share resources or expectations. No school that employs Robin Pingeton for 15 years can claim to be anywhere close to the same level as Tennessee.
True but if a school decides to get serious (unlike Wisconsin) you do things like this:
You lost me. What did I say?
Every school must allocate time, money and limited resources to sports to achieve the best results possible. To me, spending the rather absurd money on a HC, 4 assistants, numerous paid support personnel like Basketball operations, academic advisers and then money for student managers can be better spent on other sports which do not have the same amount of overhead costs to get them to elite status.
Trust you? Are you an AD at a major university? I am not sure if you have ever been engaged in any University AD budget discussions but there is always a hierarchy and pecking order that each school assesses on what is important. Most times it is competing against their conference foes in sports but sometimes geography drives the bus like with Wisconsin or Vermont. Vermont has a phenomenal ski team due to their location, so they do spend resource money on this sport that many of their conference piers do not. Wisconsin is elite in Volleyball whereas Maryland is not. The NCAA does not differentiate sport titles so winning a title in Volleyball counts just as much as Basketball.
I'm not sure if you even know what you just typed. Like what does any of this have to do with what i said about rev. sharing among wbb and wvb/w.hockey.
I don't know the accuracy of this, but per the link below Wisconsin spends about $3.63m on women's basketball.
Just one comment about that attendance back "in the day" - folks that wanted hockey / men's basketball season seats licensed the seats for all 3 sports - hockey / mbb / wbb and essentially had season tix for all. This was back in the day when the Kohl Center was fairly new. We went up to see Rutgers play there and we got the whole story from a bus driver (it was pouring rain and the campus transport driver picked us up and gave us a mini-tour on the way to the game) and also from the person sitting next to us at the game who had season tix with a primary hockey interest.I don't know the accuracy of this, but per the link below Wisconsin spends about $3.63m on women's basketball.
University of Wisconsin - Madison Athletics Programs
Interested in participating in a sports program at University of Wisconsin - Madison? Find out the average sports scholarship awarded to each student athlete, how well UW - Madison ranks for each sport, how much money is allocated to the sports team, and more.www.collegefactual.com
Looking at nearby Big Ten programs you have:
Minnesota: $4.66 million
Michigan: $4.93 million
Michigan State: $4.85 million
Illinois: $4.99 million
Iowa: $5.97 million
Purdue: $4.58 million
I get that Wisconsin spends more on women's hockey and more on volleyball but the fact that they're basically throwing in the towel for women's basketball and spending far less than all other neighboring B1G programs is stunning. Especially considering the recent explosion of interest in women's basketball and the fact that fans will show up for women's sports if they start winning (volleyball sells out every match and women's basketball was top 5 in attendance in the late 90s/early 00s when they had NCAA tournament teams.)
If they could pull a decent coach and become a borderline top 25 program, they'll start drawing 8-10k fans per game and will generate a lot more revenue and buzz. Wisconsin should be one of the easiest schools to recruit to too--it's a great college town, has strong academics and is within a few hours of Chicago/Minnesota/Milwaukee. They've had a lot of in-state talent over the past decade too that's left the area (Arike Ogunbowale, KK Arnold, Megan Gustafson, McKenna Warnock, Lexi Donarski, and Allie Ziebell to name a few). Hiring Pingeton and not allocating any money for NIL just shows they don't care about the success of the program and it's a real shame.
Maryland spends lots of money on WCBB but does not spend money on Volleyball. In fact Maryland has one of the smallest sports team offerings in all D1 so they spend their money on WCBB. Willard has nothing to do with it.
The player allegations likely took a toll.