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Men Wins Needed for a 2024 At Large bid

I would love to be able to believe that a) our body of work throughout this season was sufficient that even a blip such as not winning a game in the conference tournament would not hurt our chances at a bid and b) what happened in this years' BE tournament was merely a blip, not a microcosm of what this season has been but I am worried that we may end up on the outside looking in when the tournament field is announced.
 
I would love to be able to believe that a) our body of work throughout this season was sufficient that even a blip such as not winning a game in the conference tournament would not hurt our chances at a bid and b) what happened in this years' BE tournament was merely a blip, not a microcosm of what this season has been but I am worried that we may end up on the outside looking in when the tournament field is announced.
Hard to argue any of that. I’m basing it solely on the belief that they were considered in prior to…BE Tournament. They lost 2 games in one day both in extras and a suspended game at that. A bad day of baseball imo. That’s really it.

A favorable draw and some solid baseball and you never know.
 
We'll be in. It'll be a tough draw now and likely a 3 seed but one day of bad baseball doesn't matter more than their full season resume that had them in all year
 

A new projection by D1Baseball.com, UConn is still listed in their projected field as a 3 seed.
Latest Baseball America projection has UConn as the 3 seed in Corvallis:

Corvallis, Ore
1. (16) Oregon State^
2. Mississippi State
3. UConn
4. Nicholls State*

*Johnnies are the 3 seed in Charlottesville

Last Four In

61. Kansas State ⬇️
62. Georgia Tech
63. Northeastern
64. James Madison

First Four Out

65. UNC Wilmington
66. Troy
67. Cincinnati
68. Louisville

Next Four Out

69. California
70. Xavier ⬇️
71. Kansas
72. Georgia Southern ⬆️
 
Latest Baseball America projection has UConn as the 3 seed in Corvallis:

Corvallis, Ore
1. (16) Oregon State^
2. Mississippi State
3. UConn
4. Nicholls State*

*Johnnies are the 3 seed in Charlottesville

Last Four In

61. Kansas State ⬇️
62. Georgia Tech
63. Northeastern
64. James Madison

First Four Out

65. UNC Wilmington
66. Troy
67. Cincinnati
68. Louisville

Next Four Out

69. California
70. Xavier ⬇️
71. Kansas
72. Georgia Southern ⬆️
So do we want Xavier or St. John’s to win the big East? Does either help RPI more than it hurts the bid stealing?
 
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Xavier now has 11 conference losses. We may be in good shape.
 

No change in previous projected Regional/Seed for UConn.

Corvallis, Ore
1. (15) Oregon State^
2. Mississippi State
3. UConn
4. California Baptist*

Last Four In

61. Kansas State
62. Georgia Tech
63. James Madison ⬆️
64. Northeastern ⬇️

First Four Out

65. UNC Wilmington
66. Xavier
67. Louisville
68. Cincinnati

Next Four Out

69. Troy ⬇️
70. Georgetown ⬆️
71. Georgia Southern
72. Wofford ⬆️
 

No change in previous projected Regional/Seed for UConn.

Corvallis, Ore
1. (15) Oregon State^
2. Mississippi State
3. UConn
4. California Baptist*

Last Four In

61. Kansas State
62. Georgia Tech
63. James Madison ⬆️
64. Northeastern ⬇️

First Four Out

65. UNC Wilmington
66. Xavier
67. Louisville
68. Cincinnati

Next Four Out

69. Troy ⬇️
70. Georgetown ⬆️
71. Georgia Southern
72. Wofford ⬆️
D1Baseball latest:


Raleigh, NC
1. NC State (11)
2. Vanderbilt
3. Connecticut
4. VCU*

Last Four In: James Madison, Kansas State, Georgia Tech, CaliforniaFirst Four Out: Georgia Southern, Troy, Northeastern, Coastal Carolina
 
Northeastern has a better or similar RPI- swept UConn including a mercy rule game and is out while Penders and co are in. Man I hope that’s true but what I’ve watched this year outside big East games doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.
 
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Northeastern has a better or similar RPI- swept UConn including a mercy rule game and is out while Penders and co are in. Man I hope that’s true but what I’ve watched this year outside big East games doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.

If it works out, conference and conference RPI (plus OOC scheduling) will have been the reason. Who would’ve thunk it?
 
Xavier now has 11 conference losses. We may be in good shape.
Northeastern has a better or similar RPI- swept UConn including a mercy rule game and is out while Penders and co are in. Man I hope that’s true but what I’ve watched this year outside big East games doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.
If the decision for a bid came down to these facts alone I’m not sure how UConn gets it. I’m holding out hope that isn’t the scenario and again, we were in already before the tourney chaos with Xavier and NE amongst some others forcing an at large elsewhere.
 
Northeastern has a better or similar RPI- swept UConn including a mercy rule game and is out while Penders and co are in. Man I hope that’s true but what I’ve watched this year outside big East games doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.
Northeaste4n's resume is far superior to UConn's. If we get in over them, it will be a travesty frankly. They are 10 spots higher in the RPI (#33 vs #43) and they are 12-9 vs Q1/Q2, while UConn is 10-17 vs the same.
 

So does the fact that we are now the #3 seed against a # 15 mean we are one of the first 3 seeds as opposed to if we were # 3 in the Texas A&M regional as we were before?
 
Northeastern has a better or similar RPI- swept UConn including a mercy rule game and is out while Penders and co are in. Man I hope that’s true but what I’ve watched this year outside big East games doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.

Northeastern finished 3rd in the CAA, which is ranked 10th in the conference RPI. Like UConn, Northeastern did not win a game in their conference tournament, losing to 2 teams that are over 100 in the RPI.

It would seem that with the Big East being ranked higher, 7th in the RPI, and the fact that UConn finished 1st while not losing any conference regular season series this season apparently gives UConn an advantage in consideration of these NCAA Tournament projections. We'll see how it all works out on Monday when the selections to the Tourney are released.
 
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So does the fact that we are now the #3 seed against a # 15 mean we are one of the first 3 seeds as opposed to if we were # 3 in the Texas A&M regional as we were before?
Something screwy is going on there. If they were following a true S curve, we would then be (per that projection) the second worst three seed. We would alsio be the second lowest rated non-auto bid (to UNCW) yet somehow we wouldn't be one of the last four in.

Not really sure how that happened beyond possibly geographical adjustments (Coastal Carolina to Clemson. James Madison to Virginia) so I'm guessing they're trying to limit travel distances for three seeds.
 
I’m concerned about bid stealing. I’m at the ECU Wichita State game and shockers are leading after 6. And what if USC beats Arizona in PAC -12. I don’t know if AZ gets in anyway but ECU gets in regardless.
 
I’m concerned about bid stealing. I’m at the ECU Wichita State game and shockers are leading after 6. And what if USC beats Arizona in PAC -12. I don’t know if AZ gets in anyway but ECU gets in regardless.
And have to hope that Penn St doesn't win the Big Ten
 
Something screwy is going on there. If they were following a true S curve, we would then be (per that projection) the second worst three seed. We would alsio be the second lowest rated non-auto bid (to UNCW) yet somehow we wouldn't be one of the last four in.

Not really sure how that happened beyond possibly geographical adjustments (Coastal Carolina to Clemson. James Madison to Virginia) so I'm guessing they're trying to limit travel distances for three seeds.
I agree. Before we lost the 2 games in the BE we were always being projected against one of the top 5 seeds. Now we lose those 2 and we are projected against a #15. If it holds true I would take that scenario any day and it would seem to be a good thing that we lost. You are right it is screwy.
 
And have to hope that Penn St doesn't win the Big Ten
I’ll keep rooting for ECU and AZ. ECU scored three in the ninth including steal of home with two outs. They can bunt and hit sac flies with men on third as well. What an ending and game.
 
St. John's wins the Big East Tourney over Georgetown.

Even so, taking into account the Big East Tourney wins and losses for all the teams, UConn still had the best record in the conference against other Big East teams, with a record of 17-6. Including their 3 wins in the Big East Tourney, St. John's has a record of 17-7 against other Big East teams this season. Don't know if this better record against Big East teams this season will help UConn get an at large bid, but it is just one more thing to think about in this selection process for the NCAA tourney.
 
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Something screwy is going on there. If they were following a true S curve, we would then be (per that projection) the second worst three seed. We would alsio be the second lowest rated non-auto bid (to UNCW) yet somehow we wouldn't be one of the last four in.

Not really sure how that happened beyond possibly geographical adjustments (Coastal Carolina to Clemson. James Madison to Virginia) so I'm guessing they're trying to limit travel distances for three seeds.
Biggest misconception in NCAA baseball is that it works on an s-curve akin to basketball. That is largely incorrect. Geography and inter-conference factors make setting baseball up on a true s-curve impossible.
 
If Xavier or Georgetown win then St John’s gets picked ahead of us. We’re out.

Now I feel that we both get in.
 
ECU is out, so the AAC is going to steal a bid. Now we have Miami who is leading Duke late and if they win will be in the Championship game tomorrow as a bid stealer. Also need USC and Penn St to lose their Championship games. Not sure if Indiana St is the only guarantee from their league, but they are losing to Evansville in the Championship game, but early still. So there are some bid stealers out there that we need to lose.
 
ECU is out, so the AAC is going to steal a bid. Now we have Miami who is leading Duke late and if they win will be in the Championship game tomorrow as a bid stealer. Also need USC and Penn St to lose their Championship games. Not sure if Indiana St is the only guarantee from their league, but they are losing to Evansville in the Championship game, but early still. So there are some bid stealers out there that we need to lose.
Mostly good news. Miami loses and Arizona wins but Indiana State loses. Good Arizona-USC game as USC pitcher Aoki had 6.1 innings of no-hit ball. But Arizona scores in bottom of ninth to win game 4-3.
 
Baseball America’s May 26th Update: 2024 NCAA Baseball Tournament Bracket: Projected Field Of 64 (Conference Tournament Week)

Santa Barbara, California
1. (13) UC Santa Barbara^*
2. Arizona*
3. UConn
4. San Jose State*

*Johnnies the 3 seed in Charlottesville

Last Four In

61. Florida ⬇️
62. Georgia Tech
63. Indiana
64. James Madison ⬇️

First Four Out

65. Kansas State ⬇️
66. Charleston ⬇️
67. California
68. Northeastern ⬇️

Next Four Out

69. Xavier
70. Louisville
71. Troy
72. Cincinnati
 
Baseball America’s May 26th Update: 2024 NCAA Baseball Tournament Bracket: Projected Field Of 64 (Conference Tournament Week)

Santa Barbara, California
1. (13) UC Santa Barbara^*
2. Arizona*
3. UConn
4. San Jose State*

*Johnnies the 3 seed in Charlottesville

Last Four In

61. Florida ⬇️
62. Georgia Tech
63. Indiana
64. James Madison ⬇️

First Four Out

65. Kansas State ⬇️
66. Charleston ⬇️
67. California
68. Northeastern ⬇️

Next Four Out

69. Xavier
70. Louisville
71. Troy
72. Cincinnati
D1 Baseball May 26th Update:
Corvallis, Oregon
1. Oregon State (14)
2. Duke
3. Connecticut
4. Evansville*

*Johnnies the 3 seed in Santa Barbara

Here’s the latest at-large ladder entering Sunday’s conference tournament action.

61. James Madison
62. Kansas State
63. California
64. Georgia Tech

65. College of Charleston
66. Indiana
67. Coastal Carolina
68. Georgia Southern
 
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