Will there be basketball rule changes in the future?

[Deepster]

It's purely math. I was listening to ESPN Radio last week and if you take a 2 from 5 ft out or farther, it is mathematically better to kick it out and try a 3. You get 50% more pts from the 3 ptr and the difference in FG% and 3FG% in those two circumstances will mathematically work out to where taking the 3 is the smarter play.

To solve it? Make the 3FG% harder to achieve and make the mid range 2's worth it once again. Eliminate the corner threes. Extend the rest of the 3 pt line out to where the math works.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

The answer is simple. Add 4, 5, and 6 point lines.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

the nba and it's game?

all-time worst rating. barely 6 million. high? 23 million viewers 28 years ago.
NBA All-Star Game Takes a Sharp Nose Dive in TV Ratings Despite New Format (msn.com)
tinkering with the rules ain't the problem.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Really well said.

yeah I just cashed a bowl but I was nodding as I read that.

 

[HuskyHawk]

You just need to calibrate the 3pt line distance to a reasonable expected points per shot. Further back and eliminating the corner 3s will do that.

There's still magic to Steph and Dame pulling up that far out. We want to take early Warriors and 2013-14 Spurs as a platonic ideal of ball movement and try to tinker slightly. How do we make tall guys making post-moves a viable strategy even if you don't have Shaq, for instance? We want diversities of style. The problem with analytics is that it creates a single "best" style.

Completely agree. But part of that is making the 2 point shot relatively easier. That comes to how they call defense and prevent interior baskets.

 

[BParkDog]

1. Internet giving everybody more options.
2. BBall being a gun and crash game with rampant carrying and travel make it boring.
3. Some fans don't want to be told they are bad people.
4. Complicit in CCP human rights abuses.

In combination, these 4 will keep reducing the numbers for the NBA. It's well past its apogee. They're never coming back fully. They are focused on stopping the hemorrhaging.

 

[FlyChigga]

Make dunks be worth 3 points

 

[tzznandrew]

Make dunks be worth 3 points

Teams already hunt layups and dunks like crazy, making the game all 3s and dunks. This doesn't solve that problem.

 

[freescooter]

You're not reading it correctly. It wouldnt be a hackathon because if you were fouled yould get a free throw and the keep the ball. Its totally different than the big east 6 foul rule. There would be less fouls especially at the end of games. It would eliminate all intentional fouls.

Ok I buy that. But it will still slow the game to a crawl if you have to continually stop play to shoot fouls. I also don’t like taking away the intentional fouls at the end of the game. That is an important element and let’s teams get back into games. I read something a few years ago advocating for a 12 foot basket. But in an era where bigs are irrelevant not sure that helps much.

 

[JonnyRI]

Prefer this over straightening the arc. It would also cut down on the number of times a player in the corner is called for an of out of bounds.

Rodney Purvis just smiled hearing this.

 

[Lefty2one]

The NBA has been very progressive under Silver so I'm sure there will be rule changes going forward, the question is when will the next round of major rule changes that alter the sport take place.

Widening the court has been mentioned for several years now and needs to happen. Make every 3PT shot the same distance. It's a no-brainer but I wouldn't consider it a drastic rule change. Teams will still fire a million threes a night. I would love to see 1-16 seeding; I've wanted it for years as the West has been the dramatically better conference going on 22 seasons now.

Analytics haven't done the game any favors from a fan enjoyment perspective but I think the game can be fine if you just allow physical defense again and cut out the BS fouls they award offensive players for egregious contact-seeking fouls.

I cannot believe I'm saying this but I'm actually trending back towards enjoying college basketball as a whole more than the NBA. The college game is sloppy and ugly and the talent level is quite low compared to two decades ago and conference realignment screwed the sport real good but at least there's a great variety in strategy, styles of play, etc. You still see teams post up frequently, there's physical defense, far less isolation, etc.

 

[Lefty2one]

To solve it? Make the 3FG% harder to achieve and make the mid range 2's worth it once again. Eliminate the corner threes. Extend the rest of the 3 pt line out to where the math works.

It'd be amazing if they put a 4' wide arc from 14-18' that was worth 3 points if you were inside of it.

 

[andy34]

I agree that flipping should be a technical.

And call carries and travels by the book.

I have no problem making flopping a technical foul.

However the issue with carries is, since today's players are so SO much quicker and more athletic than they were when the rules were written, "carries" happen every possession. You do realize that Kemba wouldn't be an NBA player if they called carries by the book, right? Eliminating the quickness of guards and their ballhandling ability isn't going to improve the watchability of the game, I am sure of that.

And regarding travels, I think there are some misperceptions going on. The NBA rules are simply different than college rules. They allow for a "gather" step and then 2 additional steps, as far as I understand it. Obviously, there are still instances where the refs either have a brainfart or decide not to call an obvious travel. But there are many cases where they are calling it "by the book" - its just a different book than we're used to. Personally, it took me a while to realize that the Eurostep wasn't actually a travel, despite how much my eyes and brain told me it was.

 

[the Q]

I have no problem making flopping a technical foul.

However the issue with carries is, since today's players are so SO much quicker and more athletic than they were when the rules were written, "carries" happen every possession. You do realize that Kemba wouldn't be an NBA player if they called carries by the book, right? Eliminating the quickness of guards and their ballhandling ability isn't going to improve the watchability of the game, I am sure of that.

And regarding travels, I think there are some misperceptions going on. The NBA rules are simply different than college rules. They allow for a "gather" step and then 2 additional steps, as far as I understand it. Obviously, there are still instances where the refs either have a brainfart or decide not to call an obvious travel. But there are many cases where they are calling it "by the book" - its just a different book than we're used to. Personally, it took me a while to realize that the Eurostep wasn't actually a travel, despite how much my eyes and brain told me it was.

The euro step is still a travel in college according to the rule book unless the player is able to stop his dribble in mid air.

The NBA made their awful rule changes to protect Lebron and trash like ginbili.

The rule book for real basketball (read not the nba) says that you can lift hour pivot foot but cannot bring it back to the floor until a pass or a shot. So technically, 2 complete steps, aka what the euro really is, is a travel.

 

[the Q]

I have no problem making flopping a technical foul.

However the issue with carries is, since today's players are so SO much quicker and more athletic than they were when the rules were written, "carries" happen every possession. You do realize that Kemba wouldn't be an NBA player if they called carries by the book, right? Eliminating the quickness of guards and their ballhandling ability isn't going to improve the watchability of the game, I am sure of that.

And regarding travels, I think there are some misperceptions going on. The NBA rules are simply different than college rules. They allow for a "gather" step and then 2 additional steps, as far as I understand it. Obviously, there are still instances where the refs either have a brainfart or decide not to call an obvious travel. But there are many cases where they are calling it "by the book" - its just a different book than we're used to. Personally, it took me a while to realize that the Eurostep wasn't actually a travel, despite how much my eyes and brain told me it was.

Making them dribble properly isn’t taking away their quickness. At all.

 

[andy34]

The euro step is still a travel in college according to the rule book unless the player is able to stop his dribble in mid air.

The NBA made their awful rule changes to protect Lebron and trash like ginbili.

The rule book for real basketball (read not the nba) says that you can lift hour pivot foot but cannot bring it back to the floor until a pass or a shot. So technically, 2 complete steps, aka what the euro really is, is a travel.

Care to explain what you mean by "trash like Ginobili?"

 

[Tyler2Rings]

the West has been the dramatically better conference going on 22 seasons now

Why 1-16 won't happen. If it was the East maybe but NBA can't lose playoff games in the major markets

 

[the Q]

Care to explain what you mean by "trash like Ginobili?"

I hate him from bringing that garbage to the NBA.

Much line I hate Iverson for normalizing blatant carrying on every possession.

I like the rules being correctly enforced

 

[andy34]

I hate him from bringing that garbage to the NBA.

Much line I hate Iverson for normalizing blatant carrying on every possession.

I like the rules being correctly enforced

You must have been so mad when they took down the peach baskets

 

[the Q]

You must have been so mad when they took down the peach baskets

I like the rules being enforced.

If you don’t like them, change the rules even if it makes the game a farce, like the NBA does

 

[the Q]

Unpopular take, but I’d get rid of the jump stop. It’s a completely illogical carve out.

The rule book says when you lift your pivot foot and it comes back to the ground without a pass or shot attempt, it’s a travel.

It’s such an arbitrary carve out to the rule.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

1. Internet giving everybody more options.
2. BBall being a gun and crash game with rampant carrying and travel make it boring.
3. Some fans don't want to be told they are bad people.
4. Complicit in CCP human rights abuses.

In combination, these 4 will keep reducing the numbers for the NBA. It's well past its apogee. They're never coming back fully. They are focused on stopping the hemorrhaging.

Ha. Good lord.

 

[nomar]

The reason for so many 3’s is the realization that 3 is a lot more than 2. If there were 4’s and 5’s instead there wouldn’t be as many long shots. But nobody wants to count by 4s and 5s lol