Will South Carolina be undefeated entering the NCAAs? (Merged thread)

[ConwayGmck]

I agree with everything in this bizarre post. The second half is a fine analysis of the situation at SCar. I’m completely on board with your reading of the data.

As for the first half, I think you want to disagree with me — Lord only knows why — about something — Lord only knows what — and then find the post I was referring to (thanks for that) and show that although you read it as referring to another player it’s ambiguous enough to be read as referring to who I thought. Fair enough. And then you fuss about the antecedent of “unparalleled,” as if I’d disagree with you. I don’t. The reason SCar is a powerhouse is that they’re deep enough to keep fielding great teams even after good or even great players leave. They’re not a “one-trick pony.” Wilson was truly great, and her departure did not undermine the team. Henderson was a good guard, and her departure surely left a hole, but the team is strong enough to respond to it — at least as far as early season indicators suggest.

The reason I say the post is bizarre is that you combine some excellent observations and analysis with what seems to be an attempt to refute someone who agrees with you. Sigh. Perhaps I’m mistaken and you don’t mean to refute me, or anything so tendentious. If so, I apologize for my misreading. It’s a bizarre feature of fan forums, I suppose, that even though we all share a love of the game and our teams, we can work ourselves into quite disputatious moods even when we ought to cheer each other on. We often express half-finished thoughts in our enthusiasm, and we’re open to misinterpretation, and we, all of us, change our opinions as the discussion continues. That’s the nature of these things, and I try to stay as open and open-hearted about it as I can.

My friend, you started out GREAT - then got a bit off-track. There is a distinct DIFFERENCE between "disagree" and "refute": to disagree is to simply not agree with or have an opposing opinion about an initial opinion; to refute is not only to disagree, but to challenge such an initial opinion in a challenging or confrontational manner. To deny your position.

This is an open-forum message board for sharing of opinions, for debate and discussion of said opinions, and yes (I think) for comparing different opinions about the same topics. It also is certainly open to contradictory and even challenging viewpoints of opinions, as long as they remain in good faith and considerate.

In my case, I read the comments in this thread, and found a simple question being asked - I even quoted that question in my above post:

Did I understand correctly that someone above thought Henderson was a once in a lifetime talent? Interesting

That IS a question, is it not? And while you may have added a bit of rhetoric to it with your final word on the matter, I felt that it was a question left unanswered, as it seemed to me to be a perspective based upon misinterpretation of a previous comment. So left unanswered, it could provide false narrative not only for YOU, but for others who may read it and come to the same misinterpretations you made, since no one was correcting them. I could have left it for Baylorfan to respond, but what if he doesn't see it?

So I simply answered your question asked. I did NOT attack you, or your opinion. I did not challenge you to provide logic behind your interpretation. And this really didn't initially rise to the level of a "dispute" either, since it was only a question and answer: are you "disputing" my response? You seem to be in agreement with me. Am I "disputing" your initial question, or any response thereafter? Yes, I suppose NOW I am - I am disputing your assertion in response that my initial post was in refute or disputation of anything you've previously posted. But at the time I initially posted, no.

So in summary, I was only practicing my privilege as a posting member of this message board, to respond to comments others make, to answer open questions in good faith, and to give healthy reasonable debate to positions I feel are misaligned.


So perhaps my initial post is not that "bizarre" after all? And here I go and certainly make it bizarre - with no doubt left to that - with my follow-up......

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

We're trying to emulate sports fans from her hometown.

Ironically, Philly is my 2nd choice for retirement locales if I absolutely can't afford NYC.

 

[Bone Dog]

My friend, you started out GREAT - then got a bit off-track. There is a distinct DIFFERENCE between "disagree" and "refute": to disagree is to simply not agree with or have an opposing opinion about an initial opinion; to refute is not only to disagree, but to challenge such an initial opinion in a challenging or confrontational manner. To deny your position.

This is an open-forum message board for sharing of opinions, for debate and discussion of said opinions, and yes (I think) for comparing different opinions about the same topics. It also is certainly open to contradictory and even challenging viewpoints of opinions, as long as they remain in good faith and considerate.

In my case, I read the comments in this thread, and found a simple question being asked - I even quoted that question in my above post:



That IS a question, is it not? And while you may have added a bit of rhetoric to it with your final word on the matter, I felt that it was a question left unanswered, as it seemed to me to be a perspective based upon misinterpretation of a previous comment. So left unanswered, it could provide false narrative not only for YOU, but for others who may read it and come to the same misinterpretations you made, since no one was correcting them. I could have left it for Baylorfan to respond, but what if he doesn't see it?

So I simply answered your question asked. I did NOT attack you, or your opinion. I did not challenge you to provide logic behind your interpretation. And this really didn't initially rise to the level of a "dispute" either, since it was only a question and answer: are you "disputing" my response? You seem to be in agreement with me. Am I "disputing" your initial question, or any response thereafter? Yes, I suppose NOW I am - I am disputing your assertion in response that my initial post was in refute or disputation of anything you've previously posted. But at the time I initially posted, no.

So in summary, I was only practicing my privilege as a posting member of this message board, to respond to comments others make, to answer open questions in good faith, and to give healthy reasonable debate to positions I feel are misaligned.


So perhaps my initial post is not that "bizarre" after all? And here I go and certainly make it bizarre - with no doubt left to that - with my follow-up......

Fair enough. It felt a bit refute-y to me. IIRC, I already apologized in advance if I had misread your original response. And like I also said, I agree with all the things you said about SCar. It was all the irrelevant energy directed at me, or more precisely an offhand comment of mine that seemed bizarre. Am I really more interesting than the players?

Yes, it's an open message board, and you certainly have the right to respond how you see fit, to correct misinterpretations, to challenge differing opinions, heck even to brandish the Flaming Sword of Righteousness. I haven't objected at all to that -- or in fact to anything you've posted, even the stuff that seemed excessively focused on me. In everything that matters, I think we're on the same page.

 

[visitingcock]

Kitts got 10 points, 1 for 1 from three and 7 rebounds.

Of course she was still playing against hs level opponents. She was the only thing fun about watching that game. Ugh. I feel like an LSU fan must.

 

[TC22]

Kitts got 10 points, 1 for 1 from three and 7 rebounds.

Of course she was still playing against hs level opponents. She was the only thing fun about watching that game. Ugh. I feel like an LSU fan must.

Yes. I can’t imagine playing teams like this every game. Stinks as a fan and you could tell the girls were a little bored too. At least we got another dunk from Ashlyn and we made 10 3-pointers. 10…from SC…

 

[visitingcock]

Yes. I can’t imagine playing teams like this every game. Stinks as a fan and you could tell the girls were a little bored too. At least we got another dunk from Ashlyn and we made 10 3-pointers. 10…from SC…

It ain’t right to dunk on CoC

Oops. Edit. It ain’t right to dunk on Charleston Southern.

 

[CL82]

It's tough to go undefeated. Only 3 teams other than UConn did it. Tennessee had Holdsclaw and Catchings; Baylor had Griner and Sims; Texas had Clarissa Davis and Kamie Ethridge. All 6 UConn teams were extremely loaded with talent.

I think these guys have a shot. They are a very good team. As long as they stay healthy, it’s tough to see another team beating them..

 

[triaddukefan]

Kitts got 10 points, 1 for 1 from three and 7 rebounds.

Of course she was still playing against hs level opponents. She was the only thing fun about watching that game. Ugh. I feel like an LSU fan must.

Please don't disrespect My Big South Conference

 

[Bigboote]

We're trying to emulate sports fans from her hometown.

When Justin Verlander was asked about giving the finger to the fans in Philadelphia during the World Series, his reply was something to the effect, "I was just speaking to them in their native language."