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Why do so many posters thing Hurley is poor at player development?

nelsonmuntz said:
Should I start a crowd pleasing thread like "Josh Carlton SUCKS!!!!"?
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It just says a lot when nobody ever agrees with you. It’s ok for you to always be critical of the coach but not for posters to be critical of a player’s game apparently.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
It is not too early to judge coaching ability; which has been lacking. It is way too early to talk replacing him; which no one is saying.

The fact this coach is immune to critique to many here is laughable and strange.
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There's critique and then there's nelson. Instead of making a point and backing it up with reason and logic, he creates strawmen, responds to arguments people aren't making, ignores the most salient posts. All with a smugness that defies logic.
 
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tentoes4rings said:
Jeez, you can’t even get one like even when you’re the OP in a thread. There are some strange birds on this board and not one person ever agrees with anything you post. Why waste your breath anymore?
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tentoes4rings said:
It just says a lot when nobody ever agrees with you. It’s ok for you to always be critical of the coach but not for posters to be critical of a player’s game apparently.
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You aren't keeping up. You should sit this thread out.
 
willie99 said:
The dude hates Hurley, I get it, we all get it

Does he need to start 10 threads per week about it?
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Perhaps he needs to. Perhaps it doesn't add up to 10. I haven't counted. Have you?

I don't think he hates Hurley. I don't mind that he posts. Sometimes (like in this thread), I'm critical or teasing.

I do know that if you Ignore him, you will see ZERO of however many posts he truly starts. You might also reduce your stress level or be happier for doing so.

Who knows what makes a person want to suggest what another person should do?
 
WingU-Conn said:
There's critique and then there's nelson. Instead of making a point and backing it up with reason and logic, he creates strawmen, responds to arguments people aren't making, ignores the most salient posts. All with a smugness that defies logic.
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If only there waa some way to Ignore him or even just any particular thread that he starts...especially the ones that have no value whatsoever and would be better off treated like they don't even exist.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I see hundreds of posts talking about how much better this team will be once experienced players that Hurley has been coaching for two years are gone, and kids from high school that were playing against 5'10 guards and 6'3 centers show up. Do posters think that Hurley is so terrible at player development that he is incapable of coaching players up, and that the team would be better off taking some 18 year old kid that has only had high school coaching?

Is there a negative correlation between exposure to Hurley's coaching and player improvement? If this is true, should we replace the entire roster every year with freshmen?
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Garbage
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Is there a negative correlation between exposure to Hurley's coaching and player improvement? If this is true, should we replace the entire roster every year with freshmen?
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Hurley took a bunch of 3-stars at Rhode Island and turned them into a top 25 team back to back years. Are you saying that UConn has less talent than Rhode Island?
 
tentoes4rings said:
It just says a lot when nobody ever agrees with you. It’s ok for you to always be critical of the coach but not for posters to be critical of a player’s game apparently.
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Don't lump everyone into the nobody category. Obviously you haven't considered the fact that some posters don't feel the urge to say anything about nelson's comments when he might be right. There are far too many of you on this board that are not capable of being objective when he posts anything. You all know who you are......
 
UCSouth said:
Don't lump everyone into the nobody category. Obviously you haven't considered the fact that some posters don't feel the urge to say anything about nelson's comments when he might be right. There are far too many of you on this board that are not capable of being objective when he posts anything. You all know who you are......
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He is among the least insightful posters on this site. Most everyone can see that.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Not at all what I am saying. Was I challenging Hurley in the OP?
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"Is there a negative correlation between exposure to Hurley's coaching and player improvement? If this is true, should we replace the entire roster every year with freshmen? "

This qualifies as challenging Hurley in the OP.
 
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Pmurph678 said:
"Is there a negative correlation between exposure to Hurley's coaching and player improvement? If this is true, should we replace the entire roster every year with freshmen? "

This qualifies as challenging Hurley in the OP.
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It was a question in response to 90% of this board bashing the players that have been here for more than a year. The logical extension of the position that all freshmen are better than the other players is that Hurley must be doing something wrong to make those older players worse.

I, by the way, do not share that position. I do not think all freshmen are better than older players, because players go to these things called "practice" where they work on their game and some of them get better.
 
Rico444 said:
Are you saying that UConn has less talent than Rhode Island?
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Probably a question worth asking. When they got their ____ pushed in by South Florida the narrative on this board was that Hurley was powerless to beat teams like South Florida until he brought in more talent and got rid of "Ollie's guys" (who just happen to put 90% of the points on the board every game).
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It was a question in response to 90% of this board bashing the players that have been here for more than a year. The logical extension of the position that all freshmen are better than the other players is that Hurley must be doing something wrong to make those older players worse.

I, by the way, do not share that position. I do not think all freshmen are better than older players, because players go to these things called "practice" where they work on their game and some of them get better.
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You just don’t seem willing to acknowledge that some players are too limited in talent to coach up any higher. The improvement Hurley and staff got out of Carlton last year was amazing. Some of these upperclassmen have already reached their ceiling most likely so it’s not a stretch to think a stud recruits would be better than them as freshmen.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Probably a question worth asking. When they got their ____ pushed in by South Florida the narrative on this board was that Hurley was powerless to beat teams like South Florida until he brought in more talent and got rid of "Ollie's guys" (who just happen to put 90% of the points on the board every game).
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Some posters were saying that but plenty have been blasting Hurley.
 
Rico444 said:
Hurley took a bunch of 3-stars at Rhode Island and turned them into a top 25 team back to back years. Are you saying that UConn has less talent than Rhode Island?
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I would trust Hurley to coach up 3-stars that he selected better than 4-stars that KO selected and coached.

Is 4-star Sid Wilson a more effective player than 3-star Brendan Adams?
 
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if your premise is true, it's because they don't know much or any better
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I would trust Hurley to coach up 3-stars that he selected better than 4-stars that KO selected and coached.

Is 4-star Sid Wilson a more effective player than 3-star Brendan Adams?
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I agree with you. My point in the original post was that Hurley brought in all 3-stars (except for maybe one recruit IIRC) and he turned those players into a top-25 team. He may need to get his guys in here, but he will be bringing in more talented players than he had at Rhody and he needs to coach those guys for more than 6 months before I'm willing to say he can't make this team great again.
 
Pmurph678 said:
You don't think players have improved under Hurley?
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I think:
Polley has improved - still doesn’t really rebound-except for last game before injury.
carlton and Gilbert have regressed badly
Vital is pretty much same
Whalley somewhat better but still pretty much a non factor
Sid getting somewhat better but not much of a sample size this year.
Badams definitely better but still super inconsistent. So all in all , we have 3 players who kinda improved - one who has pretty much stayed the same And our 2 most important players have regressed.
I dunno. Hard to gauge(btw I’m just comparing last year to this year-not 2 years ago- if that was case vital wud be in the improvement category)
 
tentoes4rings said:
You just don’t seem willing to acknowledge that some players are too limited in talent to coach up any higher. The improvement Hurley and staff got out of Carlton last year was amazing. Some of these upperclassmen have already reached their ceiling most likely so it’s not a stretch to think a stud recruits would be better than them as freshmen.
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No one is expecting this team to win a National Championship, but they are not terrible, and are competitive with good teams.

My issue is with an entitled fan base that rips kids a dozen new ___holes every time they lose a game.
 
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