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who was the 1 recruit that got away calhoun years..

This and if he kept Anthony Harris home there was potentially a ray Allen donyell Harris camby line up and rings 1&2.
Harris was a head case whose collegiate career turned out to be 3 years of disaster, and finally a decent, but not spectacular senior season. Not getting him was a probably a win in the long run.
Syracuse 1 year. Scored a total of 63 points spread out over 18 games.
Mashalltown Community College ??
Haiwaii 2 years -- finally had a decent season as a senior.
 
There was a kid who went to Purdue that JC wanted bad. Cuonzo Martin.

I still remember hearing Arnold Dean interviewing Brunson and Best on his show. It seemed liked those kids wanted to come here.
Didn't Cuonzo Martin come to UConn, but then had an incident at summer school (something about a girl and someone going thru a window like Eddie Murphy in Bevery Hills Cop) & was kicked out.
 
Calhoun did not F up by not taking Ryan Gomes. No one could have predicted his ceiling as a high school junior, not even Gomes, himself. Caron Butler was head and shoulders above Gomes in every aspect of the game and Okafor was the 2002 class's project. Gomes was a fall back option and only enters fans' collective consciousness because he came out of Waterbury. If Gomes goes to UConn in 2002, they don't win the National Title in 2004.

Still, the rant was fantastic.
 
Calhoun did not F up by not taking Ryan Gomes. No one could have predicted his ceiling as a high school junior, not even Gomes, himself. Caron Butler was head and shoulders above Gomes in every aspect of the game and Okafor was the 2002 class's project. Gomes was a fall back option and only enters fans' collective consciousness because he came out of Waterbury. If Gomes goes to UConn in 2002, they don't win the National Title in 2004.

Still, the rant was fantastic.
Correct. Most fans don't consider the bigger picture ramifications in hindsight of picking up a certain player just because they had a good game against UConn. Also, Phil Martelli, who was the coach of St. Joseph's at the time and whose team started out undefeated for 20+ game in 2004 said he saw the same thing that Calhoun did when looking at Ryan Gomes. Phil said he saw a fat and out of shape player.
 
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Calhoun did not F up by not taking Ryan Gomes. No one could have predicted his ceiling as a high school junior, not even Gomes, himself. Caron Butler was head and shoulders above Gomes in every aspect of the game and Okafor was the 2002 class's project. Gomes was a fall back option and only enters fans' collective consciousness because he came out of Waterbury. If Gomes goes to UConn in 2002, they don't win the National Title in 2004.

Still, the rant was fantastic.
I don’t think the criticism came from saying Butler and Okafor shouldn’t have been recruited over Gomes. Calhoun ran out of scholarships. The debate is over whether one of the other guys on the roster should have been prioritized.
 
Huh? Gay was gone by that point. He didn't come back for his Junior year.
Yes, the article mentions that. Maybe just one of Calhoun's exaggerations.

Durant was born in Washington, D.C., and Gay grew up in Maryland and they were close friends. But it should be noted that Gay left for the NBA after the 2006 season so they could not have roomed together, as Calhoun suggested they wanted to, for the 2006-07 season.
 
Tobias Harris
A lot of the reports dad was a nightmare. And his camp needed him to be the man day one. Terrible fit for team/culture guy like Calhoun.

We were hot and heavy early, I went to watch Tobias at Orlando Disney summer thing and ended up meeting JC and snapping a quick pic - my wife sent to a contact @ UConn and got it auto’d and still hangs on my man cave/office wall!
 
Curley would have fit that UConn team perfectly. The Sunday before he committed Bob Ryan wrote an article in the Globe saying that if he didn't go to BC, BC should give up basketball. I honestly think that had some effect.
 
I don’t think the criticism came from saying Butler and Okafor shouldn’t have been recruited over Gomes. Calhoun ran out of scholarships. The debate is over whether one of the other guys on the roster should have been prioritized.
My hindsight is 20/20 as well.

This was for the class of 2002. The rant, and game that facilitated it, was in late January 2004. I forget what happened less than 2 1/2 months later. :rolleyes:
 
Didn't Cuonzo Martin come to UConn, but then had an incident at summer school (something about a girl and someone going thru a window like Eddie Murphy in Bevery Hills Cop) & was kicked out.
Couldn't have been him.

While he was from a tough place (East St Louis), Martin was a model citizen. He really liked the school and JC but felt the program wasn't big enough at the time. JC had a similar situation a few years earlier with a kid (I believe his name was Perry Clark, may be wrong on his last name) who ended up at Ohio State (ironically we beat him in the NIT final).

At the time, with kids from where they were from, we couldn't compete with a quality B10 program.

The number is quite a bit higher than one on quality recruits that we just missed on. We could have gotten to where we are a bit quicker if we landed one or two but, all things considered I'm very happy with the results.

As an aside, not considering all the details (which could cover 20 pages) I don't believe that Camby and JC could have coexisted. HC wanted kids to demand the best from themselves. Camby wanted to be able to do what he wanted when he wanted.
 
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Couldn't have been him.

While he was from a tough place (East St Louis), Martin was a model citizen. He really liked the school and JC but felt the program wasn't big enough at the time. JC had a similar situation a few years earlier with a kid (I believe his name was Perry Clark, may be wrong on his last name) who ended up at Ohio State (ironically we beat him in the NIT final).

At the time, with kids from where they were from, we couldn't compete with a quality B10 program.

The number is quite a bit higher than one on quality recruits that we just missed on. We could have gotten to where we are a bit quicker if we landed one or two but, all things considered I'm very happy with the results.

As an aside, not considering all the details (which could cover 20 pages) I don't believe that Camby and JC could have coexisted. HC wanted kids to demand the best from themselves. Camby wanted to be able to do what he wanted when he wanted.
If you're talking Calhoun wouldn't be able to reel in Camby off the court and get him to stop hanging out with a couple of his criminal friends in Hartford that might be true but Camby was never a problem on the court. He was totally dominant, an awesome teammate, and always gave maximum effort. Maybe Calhoun wouldn't have been able to stop the off the court stuff and they would've gotten dinged for it but I have little doubt they would've cut down the nets at least once with Camby, he was the best player in the country. Camby and Ray Allen would've been one of the best duos in the history of college basketball.
 
The cars and the women?
I never say camby in cars. Bt the word of many people i worked with said it.. running joke at the school.. ie second hand
 
Absolutely the correct answer. JC often said that.

Yes.

Curley is the correct answer if we are actually using JC's words.
Gomes is the correct answer if you want the best JC comment.
Durant, Garnett, and others are correct if we want to fantasize.
Camby is never the correct answer.
 
Yes.

Curley is the correct answer if we are actually using JC's words.
Gomes is the correct answer if you want the best JC comment.
Durant, Garnett, and others are correct if we want to fantasize.
Camby is never the correct answer.
Calhoun just wants to forget about Camby and Calipari. It's not something he's ever wanted to talk about.
 
If you're talking Calhoun wouldn't be able to reel in Camby off the court and get him to stop hanging out with a couple of his criminal friends in Hartford that might be true but Camby was never a problem on the court. He was totally dominant, an awesome teammate, and always gave maximum effort. Maybe Calhoun wouldn't have been able to stop the off the court stuff and they would've gotten dinged for it but I have little doubt they would've cut down the nets at least once with Camby, he was the best player in the country. Camby and Ray Allen would've been one of the best duos in the history of college basketball.
Camby was an immense talent who, with proper motivation could have been one of the greats of his generation. He also was fond of blowing off meals and feasting on soda, chips and candy. Missing a stray practice because he wanted to finish a video game and a handful of other little things. If he cared about his body like for example Ray Allen, he would be in the HOF today. JC pushed players, often beyond what the player felt was his limit (ask Jake Voskhul) because he wanted the best out of them, on all levels. Camby didn't like getting pushed, one of the reasons he and Calipari got along as well as they did was that Calipari was willing to give him as much slack as he wanted.
 
If I remember correctly, we were really close with Kobe Bryant. He Committed elsewhere, and we settled for RIP, as the backup plan. Kobe though just jump straight to the NBA more after all....
 
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Camby was an immense talent who, with proper motivation could have been one of the greats of his generation. He also was fond of blowing off meals and feasting on soda, chips and candy. Missing a stray practice because he wanted to finish a video game and a handful of other little things. If he cared about his body like for example Ray Allen, he would be in the HOF today. JC pushed players, often beyond what the player felt was his limit (ask Jake Voskhul) because he wanted the best out of them, on all levels. Camby didn't like getting pushed, one of the reasons he and Calipari got along as well as they did was that Calipari was willing to give him as much slack as he wanted.
Best player in the country without being pushed, imagine what Calhoun could've done with him. He may have not liked practice but Camby was like Iverson in the respect that when the lights were on for the game he sacrificed his body on the court. I agree he had Hall of fame talent but it's not like he was a bust or anything. His offense never developed in the NBA like I thought it should have but he was one of the best defensive players of his generation.

As for candy and video games, half the NBA seems to have those addictions. Ray Allen was unique.
 
If I remember correctly, we were really close with Kobe Bryant. He Committed elsewhere, and we settled for RIP, as the backup plan. Kobe though just jump straight to the NBA more after all....
Kobe was never going to college but if forced to he was going to Duke.

It would've been interesting to see if his daughter Gianna's game would've developed to be good enough to play at UConn. What a terrible tragedy.
 
Best player in the country without being pushed, imagine what Calhoun could've done with him. He may have not liked practice but Camby was like Iverson in the respect that when the lights were on for the game he sacrificed his body on the court. I agree he had Hall of fame talent but it's not like he was a bust or anything. His offense never developed in the NBA like I thought it should have but he was one of the best defensive players of his generation.

As for candy and video games, half the NBA seems to have those addictions. Ray Allen was unique.

Yep. Multiple times led the league in blocks, was a DPOY, several all-defensive teams, 11 seasons averaging more than 10 rpg.
 
Perhaps fact, possible urban legend (probably somewhere in the middle) but rumor was Toraino Walker was the host for Curley and Toraino didn't want him to come to UConn and take a spot so he left him at his apartment and went out partying without him. Not sure you ever want Toraino in charge of anything given his track record but none of this would surprise me if true.
 
Couldn't have been him.

While he was from a tough place (East St Louis), Martin was a model citizen. He really liked the school and JC but felt the program wasn't big enough at the time. JC had a similar situation a few years earlier with a kid (I believe his name was Perry Clark, may be wrong on his last name) who ended up at Ohio State (ironically we beat him in the NIT final).

At the time, with kids from where they were from, we couldn't compete with a quality B10 program.

The number is quite a bit higher than one on quality recruits that we just missed on. We could have gotten to where we are a bit quicker if we landed one or two but, all things considered I'm very happy with the results.

As an aside, not considering all the details (which could cover 20 pages) I don't believe that Camby and JC could have coexisted. HC wanted kids to demand the best from themselves. Camby wanted to be able to do what he wanted when he wanted.
Perry Carter is the kid you are thinking about for Ohio St. Your memory isn't correct there, UConn & Calhoun really, really wanted Carter as one of his first big national recruits but simply lost out to Ohio State. No worries though as UConn later beat Ohio State and Mr. Carter (didn't develop as much as he would have under Calhoun) in NIT final. I'm not sure if it was Perry Carter that Lyman posterized early in that final.
 
Kobe was never going to college but if forced to he was going to Duke.

It would've been interesting to see if his daughter Gianna's game would've developed to be good enough to play at UConn. What a terrible tragedy.
Yup. Still, remember that day. Fog and a mountain. still a head-scratcher. Gianna already had her offer. Kobe was on record to telling other influencers NBA'er trying to convince him to send her to USC, Stamford UCLA. And his response to them. Was that her 13-year-old daughter had already made up her own mind? She was going to be a Uconn Husky. And there was nothing he could/would do to convince her otherwise. She had her 20-year plan in place. And the Path included winning a championship as a Huskie.....
 
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Danbury CT high school parade all American guard Anthony Harris ended up at Syracuse in the early 90's.

I was really hoping that kid would stay local. Unfortunately he never really panned out and had some minor off the field issues.

For some reason I never forget that one.
 
Yes.

Curley is the correct answer if we are actually using JC's words.
Gomes is the correct answer if you want the best JC comment.
Durant, Garnett, and others are correct if we want to fantasize.
Camby is never the correct answer.
Agree 100%. Gomes’ comments is a classic :)
 
Yup. Still, remember that day. Fog and a mountain. still a head-scratcher. Gianna already had her offer. Kobe was on record to telling other influencers NBA'er trying to convince him to send her to USC, Stamford UCLA. And his response to them. Was that her 13-year-old daughter had already made up her own mind? She was going to be a Uconn Husky. And there was nothing he could/would do to convince her otherwise. She had her 20-year plan in place. And the Path included winning a championship as a Husky.....
She still in HS? Perhaps to honor her father she comes to UConn. Have heard nothing.
 
Yup. Still, remember that day. Fog and a mountain. still a head-scratcher. Gianna already had her offer. Kobe was on record to telling other influencers NBA'er trying to convince him to send her to USC, Stamford UCLA. And his response to them. Was that her 13-year-old daughter had already made up her own mind? She was going to be a Uconn Husky. And there was nothing he could/would do to convince her otherwise. She had her 20-year plan in place. And the Path included winning a championship as a Husky.....
It's so sad, I remember hearing the Kobe news and shaking. Then I heard Gianna was with him and I broke down. Awful day and then Covid happened. It's been an incredibly rough 3+ years for many people and collectively as a nation/world.
 
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