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Just wondering?

Seriously Palantine would it matter? There is ZERO talent there, no one is ready to get taught the middle period. If you see something I don't let me know but you could have Newell on your staff and you would laugh your off!! They're putrid!
 
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Seriously Palantine would it matter? There is ZERO talent there, no one is ready to get taught the middle period. If you see something I don't let me know but you could have Newell on your staff and you would laugh your off!! They're putrid!

Our bigs struggle because they don't have anyone teaching them post moves or positioning, but more so, there is no one to teach post defense. If you don't have an offensive big on your team or staff, you cannot expect our bigs to know how to defend an offensive big. Our bigs struggle defending because they are seeing players who demonstrate offensive abilities they are not used to seeing in practice. Heck, I'll go to practice & try to put some post moves, spins & fakes on them... and I hope they block them all, but at least they'll see those moves & know how to react to them come game time! ;)
 

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THIS. We need an assistant who can recruit AND develop big men. What's Dan Cyrulik up to these days?
 
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Our bigs struggle because they don't have anyone teaching them post moves or positioning, but more so, there is no one to teach post defense. If you don't have an offensive big on your team or staff, you cannot expect our bigs to know how to defend an offensive big. Our bigs struggle defending because they are seeing players who demonstrate offensive abilities they are not used to seeing in practice. Heck, I'll go to practice & try to put some post moves, spins & fakes on them... and I hope they block them all, but at least they'll see those moves & know how to react to them come game time! ;)

That's BS…they suck! it's on them not anyone else right now!
 
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That's BS…they suck! it's on them not anyone else right now!

Maybe you think they should invest in Rosetta Stone for Big Man skills instead?? I'd rather real time experience than just saying they suck.
 
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Clyde Vaughn was one of our best big man coaches. He deserves a second chance.

With the hooker or the program?

Please do we need to discuss "big man coaches" again. How many programs do you see who have real nice bigs playing for them have coaches over 6'2"?? It's a joke - Miller can teach big men, Hobbs at 5'9" can teach big men……….the real question is do we have big men who are CAPABLE OF LEARNING?? From what I see right now - no, maybe Brimah eventually because he's only 4 years into hoops but the others are a "wow" factor in fundamentals, awful and obviously they do it in practice and then don't answer the bell! Frustrating to all……..the art of hands up and turn and body someone is gone and non existent with this teams bigs, every one of them. Never mind offense I won't even go there…….never seen a group of 6'8" and bigger so soft, so unsure of what they are going to do. That's on them………you hit them gym and practice practice practice until you can do it naturally in a game…….they can't! 4 years for Tyler it's the staff;s fault he can't go strong and is always shying away form the basket when shooting? NOPE
 
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With the hooker or the program?

Please do we need to discuss "big man coaches" again. How many programs do you see who have real nice bigs playing for them have coaches over 6'2"?? It's a joke - Miller can teach big men, Hobbs at 5'9" can teach big men……….the real question is do we have big men who are CAPABLE OF LEARNING?? From what I see right now - no, maybe Brimah eventually because he's only 4 years into hoops but the others are a "ww" factor in fundamentals, awful and obviously they do it in practice and then don't answer the bell! Frustrating to all……..the art of hands up and turn and body someone is gone and non existent with this teams bigs, every one of them. Never mind offense I won't even go there…….never seen a group of 6'8" and bigger so soft, so unsure of what they are going to do. That's on them………you hit them gym and practice practice practice until you can do it naturally in a game…….they can't! 4 years for Tyler it's the staff;s fault he can't go strong and is always shying away form the basket when shooting? NOPE
Some posters remain in denial that something is not working when unsuccessfull results keep repeating themselves. I won't bring Clyde into this post since others have already done so. He did a great job recruiting and coaching big men. I think Miller adds value to the staff but not as a Big Man's coach. Yes, a big man's coach is needed, who also has the incentive to recruit the big guys.
 
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Some posters remain in denial that something is not working when unsuccessfull results keep repeating themselves. I won't bring Clyde into this post since others have already done so. He did a great job recruiting and coaching big men. I think Miller adds value to the staff but not as a Big Man's coach. Yes, a big man's coach is needed, who also has the incentive to recruit the big guys.

So wrong you're the only one in denial Chief……..these guys aren't good enough period, nothing else to say. I will never deny that Clyde was very good for the program when here and he was good with the big men. But they can all coach big men and work on what they need to to make people better……..they're just not magicians. Can't make into gold!
 
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Quite frankly, I agree the talent is scarce. One thing a good position coach does is to directly recruit or assist in recruiting his position. We hear recruits talk about UConn guards tradition but not the Bigs despite having success stories that could be talked up. One thing Foley did with football is directly or indirectly recruit OL and Tight ends. When GDL took over the recruiting on OL went south.
 
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Quite frankly, I agree the talent is scarce. One thing a good position coach does is to directly recruit or assist in recruiting his position. We hear recruits talk about UConn guards tradition but not the Bigs despite having success stories that could be talked up. One thing Foley did with football is directly or indirectly recruit OL and Tight ends. When GDL took over the recruiting on OL went south.

And quite frankly I agree this staff needs to now put a MUST on getting good, solid big guys and it's on them to do so……..Lubin could be the start but they need more………..and fast! It's not that I don't believe that Brimah may eventually be good or that Nolan may some day be okay, I like them, but with them comes no guarantee and also they don't rebound enough now. Also I would love Clyde if it fit and if it was right, but while he was real good with the big guys, this isn't on the staff they just don't have any size, girth to these guys and always lose the fight…….and to combat they need to "hit" people first and they don't even do that…….the IQ is not there and that's never good when you're teaching bigs to just do their job. At least box out right? But none does………and even their attempts are futile at best, never holding the spot.
 
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The big men on the team now don't compare to the bigs of the 2 year Vaughn era(Oak, Josh, Charlie, Hilton).These guys had talent and motors. You need quality bigs and sadly none are on the team now. That doesn't mean the team can't still be good and have a servicable 5 though. You can't teach toughness and I see no toughness in the front line. Let's not bring up Vaughn again please.
 
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That's BS…they suck! it's on them not anyone else right now!


No disrespect here mauconnfan...but UMass put Lou Roe on the coaching staff to work with Cady Lalanne and Tyler Bergantino and the results have been nothing short of amazing in a very short time. I'm not sure that those two guys have any more natural talent than the UConn guys...they've just been taught how to play the position by someone who not only knew how to play it, but knows how to teach it.
 
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None taken……..I have watched Lalanne and Esho and they are much more talented and ready than what we have………I'm happy you have Roe and that's great but he has something to work WITH…….

I said in a past thread if we had those 2 or some alike our Huskies would be real good……...
 

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Quite frankly, I agree the talent is scarce. One thing a good position coach does is to directly recruit or assist in recruiting his position. We hear recruits talk about UConn guards tradition but not the Bigs despite having success stories that could be talked up. One thing Foley did with football is directly or indirectly recruit OL and Tight ends. When GDL took over the recruiting on OL went south.

Chief, as someone else said in the thread.....Clyde was at UConn for only 2 years! We've got three national championships, 4 final fours, 7 BETs, and 10 regular seasons championships, and a crap load of wins. How does Clyde's influence compute?

We don't have much down low right now. That's it. Sure we could use a big man coach. But I'd rather have talent.
 
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The big men on the team now don't compare to the bigs of the 2 year Vaughn era(Oak, Josh, Charlie, Hilton).These guys had talent and motors. You need quality bigs and sadly none are on the team now. That doesn't mean the team can't still be good and have a servicable 5 though. You can't teach toughness and I see no toughness in the front line. Let's not bring up Vaughn again please.
So your theory is that coaching doesn't matter?
 
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