Who is Charlie Creme?

[CocoHusky]

First thank you for what you do to try to make their ratings better, and for what you do on this board in so many other ways. I can only judge on the final product. I don't want to debate ratings, but let me just describe a couple of things that to me indicate an inferior product, or poor management.
For what seemed like at least a year or so Caroline Ducharme was listed as 5-10 on their ratings. I can see a mistake being made initially, but this obvious one persisted for what seems like an eternity. One of my other gripes is how responsive they are to when players commit.
When a player commits it spreads like wildfires on social media, but it seems to me it takes way too long to show up on ESPN's list of top players. Maybe I am being overly critical, but I don't think those kind of things should happen in a well run organization. ESPN does a great job at many things, but I suspect women's basketball recruiting is a pretty low priority for them and sometimes it shows. But keep up the good work you are doing.

You don't want to debate yet 2 full paragraphs later you are still debating?
Uhm.... Caroline's ESPN rankings rose and fell throughout her HS career. The most significant factors regarding her rise, fall or inactive periods in the ESPN ranking were due to the two major injuries she sustained and had to recover from in HS. If you are going to continue "debating" the rankings please try and educate yourself as to how ESPN treats injured players in their rankings. ESPN are also not social media trolls-meaning they are not out there checking the recruits social media for commitments.
ESPN does have a very low priority on women's basketball recruiting, you are getting exactly what you pay for. There are plenty of services available to you for a fee that might be more to your liking.

 

[HuskyNan]

You don't want to debate yet 2 full paragraphs later you are still debating?
Uhm.... Caroline's ESPN rankings rose and fell throughout her HS career. The most significant factors regarding her rise, fall or inactive periods in the ESPN ranking were due to the two major injuries she sustained and had to recover from in HS. If you are going to continue "debating" the rankings please try and educate yourself as to how ESPN treats injured players in their rankings. ESPN are also not social media trolls-meaning they are not out there checking the recruits social media for commitments.
ESPN does have a very low priority on women's basketball recruiting, you are getting exactly what you pay for. There are plenty of services available to you for a fee that might be more to your liking.

It’s not like there’s a staff of 100 out scouting and an office staff updating the database daily. When I was doing the scouting, there were 4 of us. Period.

And ESPN has its faults, to be sure, but they made a commitment to women’s basketball early, much earlier than any of the other outlets. At least they tried which is more than I can say for some.

 

[CocoHusky]

It’s not like there’s a staff of 100 out scouting and an office staff updating the database daily. When I was doing the scouting, there were 4 of us. Period.
And ESPN has its faults, to be sure, but they made a commitment to women’s basketball early, much earlier than any of the other outlets. At least they tried which is more than I can say for some.

I never understand why some people get so worked up over these rankings when every credible person involved admits to them being subjective. Bluestar for example has Ashlyn Shade ranked at 55th in her class- but you didn't hear that from me.

 

[HuskyNan]

I never understand why some people get so worked up over these rankings when every credible person involved admits to them being subjective. Bluestar for example has Ashlyn Shade ranked at 55th in her class- but you didn't hear that from me.

Usually that’s a function of how many times the kid was seen. If she was seen once or twice and had bad or middling games at that time, she might not be ranked too highly. Also, some kids just flip the switch and “get it” one game when a scout isn’t there.

Someone like Caroline, for example, may not have been seen much because she played for a NEPSAC team in New England, usually not a hotbed of talent. Once UConn showed interest, her ranking rose as people started to pay attention to her. Too bad for other schools they didn’t work the local networks like Geno does. AAU and high school coaches in New England love him because he makes an effort to meet them and stay in touch.

in sheer numbers, there aren’t a lot of girls basketball scouts and they just can’t go to all games in every state. Many have a real, I.e. paying, job and do the scouting part time, as I did. Some get missed (see Beard, Alana and Morrow, Aneesa)