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Huskies4ever said:
As a fan, I don't want to see us go from being in a BCS powerhouse conference to being in a mid-major. There are many negatives, especially with the retirement of a Hall of Fame coach. There's too much transition. Calhoun built this program, but in the early years, he used to tell recruits, "look who you can play against". KO or whoever our future coach is won't have that card to play.
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Let me take this a little further. As said KO will not have the benefit of saying..................... "look who you can play against". The other is will be who will want to stay at UC ? UC will become that "NEXT STEP" up the coaching ladder.
Thats right boys and girls, we will be that place where young coaches come to, on their way up to the next Big program.
 
the existing Big East will still be a top hoops conference, although it won't be better and deeper than everybody else like it has been for the past few seasons.

CT, Cinn, GTown, Marg, Nova have all been strong. St Johns and Prov vastly improving with new coaches and Memphis has been pretty solid too. Getting 5+ bids every year will not be a problem. Still a better hoops conference than the SEC and the PAC 12. Furthermore, teams coming in will improve, they always do.

We can also begin to schedule tougher OOC games on a more regular basis. I know my man crush would never do that, but Ollie might be different. Schedule 4 or 5 tough OOC games every year like Memphis, Gonzaga and UK do and our schedule will be loaded.

As for football, well that's a different story. We have to hope everybody that was supposed to come still comes, especially Boise, and we have to hope the TX schools stay strong, otherwise we are in bad company

When one door closes, another door opens. Things tend to work themselves out far more often than not.
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Let me take this a little further. As said KO will not have the benefit of saying..................... "look who you can play against". The other is will be who will want to stay at UC ? UC will become that "NEXT STEP" up the coaching ladder.
Thats right boys and girls, we will be that place where young coaches come to, on their way up to the next Big program.
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lol...that has been the case for the BE since its inception...Where did Pitino begin, UCLA's Ben Howland, Michigan's John Beilein, Tommy Amaker left SHU for UofM, Ohio State's Jim O'Brien, Indiana's Tom Crean, the list goes on. Yet this has not stopped the conference from succeeding in the past...Good programs can/should succeed even with coaching changes.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I think they're probably excited about joining a legitimate conference.

The Big East is a ramshackle graveyard. You're polishing a turd. I respect the optimism, but I'd prefer an exit plan.
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Give it a couple of billion years and even turds become diamonds. What's the matter, don't you have a couple of billion years?
 
KO is not going anywhere, his family has been living in CT all along and he loves UConn. He's family

if I recall correctly, he could have been an assistant coach in the NBA and make a lot more money than he did sitting next to Jimmy & George
 
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ChrisSmithsPart said:
How much have those benefits that the ACC provides meant for Wake, Miami, VT, GT, BC, Clemson, Virginia & to a lesser extent FSU & Maryland bball. A part of me really wants to post comments similar to yours, because there is truth in it. But what's not included in your post is that...A Choice Doesn't Exist right now. So either we feel down or we double down...I for doubling down, manning up & betting on our chances against any other program out there in any conference!
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Best attitude to have and as far as I'm concerned the only attitude to have. When JC arrived the BE was still a relatively new conference but the order was established. The blue bloods were Georgetown, Cuse, Nova and St. Johns. UConn was a bottom dweller. Things turned out well for the university. Things didn't go as well for Seton Hall or Rutgers basket ball wise. Last season with the arrival of AD and DD everyone felt on top of the world. Look how that played out. Two years ago, after following a bad season, no one was expecting a NC. But that is what happened.

The beauty and ugliness about life is it is unpredictable with one big exception. It is predictable that people will forget that life is unpredictable.
 
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scrappy2.0 said:
If I remember correctly, Memphis with John Calipari played in a God-awful conference which they dominated and were on national TV all the time.
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and when cal left, have they received as much as exposure or any?
 
Irish Loop said:
If only there was a way to schedule non-conference games.
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There's no reason for Syracuse to schedule UConn. Pitino said yesterday that Louisville will not play any of the remaining Big East teams anymore.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
yeah i know hes recruited well, but the exposure is nothing like it was for them
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That's because he isn't doing a very good job of actually coaching them. Calipari actually won tournament games when he was there.
 
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zls44 said:
There's no reason for Syracuse to schedule UConn. Pitino said yesterday that Louisville will not play any of the remaining Big East teams anymore.
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Pitino also said it was stupid for Uconn to consider leaving the Big East for the ACC. Let's give him some time before we hold him to that.
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Let me take this a little further. As said KO will not have the benefit of saying..................... "look who you can play against". The other is will be who will want to stay at UC ? UC will become that "NEXT STEP" up the coaching ladder.
Thats right boys and girls, we will be that place where young coaches come to, on their way up to the next Big program.
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OMG Fn stupid. Uconn is a *brand* now. Name me another school that has 10 NC between Mens and women's basketball in the last 15 years? Could we morph into a UCLA type problem--there is always risk. But they have no problem recruiting high quality basketball players. Uconn has a direct feed to NY basketball--its easy for the kids to stay close enough to have their family stay involved yet far enough to have some space. Uconn has top-notched TV coverage media coverage -how many NBA players in the last 25 years--I think 25 ranging back to a very good Cliff Robinson(who was at school when I was there) Every good NBA team---Memphis Rudy Gay LA Clippers Caron Butler Oklahoma--the resurgent Hasheem Thabeet the vastly improved Chalotte Bobcats who have won just as many games as last year already Ben Gorden Kemba Walker Rip Hamilton NBA chamo Chicago Bulls Ive seen Drummond on ESPN top 10 3 times already and hes not even 20 yearsetc..... we have a large contingent of NBA players 3 NC Championships great fans great school great TV close proximity to NY--this argument is F stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I think the BE should immediately change their decision to allow UConn to participate in the BE tournament so they can whip up on Pitt, Cuse, Louisville and Rutgers one last time. I honestly think things have changed so dramatically that knocking one of those guys out of an automatic birth would be viewed as a good thing by the remaining schools. The thought of Cuse holding up the Gavitt trophy one last time makes me sick.
 
FriarJ said:
I think the BE should immediately change their decision to allow UConn to participate in the BE tournament so they can whip up on Pitt, Cuse, Louisville and Rutgers one last time. I honestly think things have changed so dramatically that knocking one of those guys out of an automatic birth would be viewed as a good thing by the remaining schools. The thought of Cuse holding up the Gavitt trophy one last time makes me sick.
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From your keyboard to Aresco's ears...
 
FriarJ said:
I think the BE should immediately change their decision to allow UConn to participate in the BE tournament so they can whip up on Pitt, Cuse, Louisville and Rutgers one last time. I honestly think things have changed so dramatically that knocking one of those guys out of an automatic birth would be viewed as a good thing by the remaining schools. The thought of Cuse holding up the Gavitt trophy one last time makes me sick.
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It would be a great idea except that if UConn wumps those guys UConn becomes more attractive to the ACC and B!G. So unfortunately the bb only schools are going to approve this.
 
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UConn has 3 national titles, beating them one more time is not going to help or hurt their cause. That was a silly comment.
 
FriarJ said:
UConn has 3 national titles, beating them one more time is not going to help or hurt their cause. That was a silly comment.
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Maybe. But who knows what different people think. You know the saying: if you think of it someone out there is already implementing it. Anyways I'm hoping you are correct and I'm wrong.
 
"I've seen this kind of coaching decision before I can't remember a good outcome."

You must have missed Jim Boeheim taking over at Syracuse, then.

And John Thompson III at Georgetown
 
FriarJ said:
I think the BE should immediately change their decision to allow UConn to participate in the BE tournament so they can whip up on Pitt, Cuse, Louisville and Rutgers one last time. I honestly think things have changed so dramatically that knocking one of those guys out of an automatic birth would be viewed as a good thing by the remaining schools. The thought of Cuse holding up the Gavitt trophy one last time makes me sick.
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No chance of that happening. Susan has pissed off the Big East leadership with her handling of expansion...last year basically telling them to screw off, and this year telling them we were going when we weren't. They ain't doing her any favors.
 
freescooter said:
No chance of that happening. Susan has pissed off the Big East leadership with her handling of expansion...last year basically telling them to screw off, and this year telling them we were going when we weren't. They ain't doing her any favors.
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That means they have no problems with Pitt, Cuse, Ville or ND.
 
Husky1972 said:
"I've seen this kind of coaching decision before I can't remember a good outcome."

You must have missed Jim Boeheim taking over at Syracuse, then.

And John Thompson III at Georgetown
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Well except Boeheim had 7 years as Danforth's assistant, and really 1975 was a very different time anyway. How different? Do you know where Danforth left Syracuse for? I'll give you a guess...they just joined the Big East. that's right, Tulane was a step up from Syracuse in 1976. so that isn't really a legit comparison. that is how much the college landscape has changed. And JTIII had 5 years as an assistant and another 5 as a successful head coach at Princeton befroe he took the job. Ollie was picking up towels in the locker room by comparison.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
That means they have no problems with Pitt, Cuse, Ville or ND.
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No, of ocurse not. But those teams don't need special consideration to go to the tourney. If on e of them did, or if the Big east had a rule saying if you are leaving you can't get the automatic bid, that would be different and they wouldn't get a waiver either.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
yeah i know hes recruited well, but the exposure is nothing like it was for them
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That's because for all the talent they get they continue to underperform. If the school doesn't perform well, or at least play in big events, they won't get exposure. Look at Texas, how much have you heard about them in the past 2 years?
 
freescooter said:
No, of ocurse not. But those teams don't need special consideration to go to the tourney. If on e of them did, or if the Big east had a rule saying if you are leaving you can't get the automatic bid, that would be different and they wouldn't get a waiver either.
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Point I was making is that the BE may dislike UConn's posturing but they definitely have to hate the moves of schools that are leaving. If UConn stays in the BE after this season (I'm hoping things work out so this isn't so) and IF UConn can elevate its play to knock off one of those four teams in the tournament then many BE schools stuck with the bad outcomes of CR would love to see UConn put those schools in a lower NCAA bracket.

Your point was that there is an emotional backlash against President Herbst. So why isn't there an emotional backlash against the outgoing teams or the conferences they are heading towards? Emotional anger isn't directed to one individual as you point out.
 
freescooter said:
Well except Boeheim had 7 years as Danforth's assistant, and really 1975 was a very different time anyway. How different? Do you know where Danforth left Syracuse for? I'll give you a guess...they just joined the Big East. that's right, Tulane was a step up from Syracuse in 1976. so that isn't really a legit comparison. that is how much the college landscape has changed. And JTIII had 5 years as an assistant and another 5 as a successful head coach at Princeton befroe he took the job. Ollie was picking up towels in the locker room by comparison.
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You are correct there is no exact comparison for Ollie.

The closest is probably Fred Hoiberg: 11 Year NBA career, 1 year as NBA assistant coach for the Timberwolves, moved to front office of Timberwolves, became head coach at ISU. Starting 3rd year at ISU, 43-29 overall, one NCAA appearance with a 1-1 record. 4-2 this year with losses to UNLV and Cincy. Basically, he was cleaning the urinals if Ollie is picking up towels.

At the same time Hoiberg took over for ISU and not UConn or Jim Calhoun. Of course Ollie also has a NC ring as an assistant and already has half the top 25 wins of Hoiberg.
 
freescooter said:
Well except Boeheim had 7 years as Danforth's assistant, and really 1975 was a very different time anyway. How different? Do you know where Danforth left Syracuse for? I'll give you a guess...they just joined the Big East. that's right, Tulane was a step up from Syracuse in 1976. so that isn't really a legit comparison. that is how much the college landscape has changed. And JTIII had 5 years as an assistant and another 5 as a successful head coach at Princeton befroe he took the job. Ollie was picking up towels in the locker room by comparison.
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priceless

how wrong can wrong be? this here be one of the more "wronger" posts I ever be reading

but but but but but, they all be different
 
butler, gonzaga, and sdsu would be great bb adds. xavier does nothing and like uconn can be added later. aleady have cincy...
 
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