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If you guys think Whitmer is the problem with this offense you don't know $#17 about football.

Whitmer struggled, yes. He missed a few wide open guys. He also made some plays with his feet. The long pass too McQuillan wasn't his fault. McQuillan, BTW, dropped another first down pass today. McQuillan stopped his route and that's why the ball looked overthrown.

Whitmer was awful, but the WR's outside of Davis didn't help him out. What is it with guys quitting on routes? The SB guys made a couple of plays. Our guys just showed up.
 
I have seen Whitmer's body of work. If you think it will get better there is no evidence to support that belief.
Who is saying Whitmer will get better?
 
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Whitmer is not the answer. Happy feet, lacks general composure and he cant throw accurately. His running ability is marginal. The Stony Brook QB looked like a pro in comparison.
 
Whitmer has to hit those passes at least one time. He moves well in the pocket but is inaccurate which is a killer.

I want UCONN to win and if that means Boyle gives them the best chance, then he should play

I disagree, one of CWs worst flaws is his inability to move well in the pocket. He has little pocket presence.
 
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Both Chandler and Whitmer were bad today. Missed a ton of open WR's.

What was irritating was listening to Diaco and Whitmer after the game. Whitmer said he had fun and Diaco was not even phased that we beat Stony brook by 3. We stunk. Fox saved the game.

If I were the coach I would have flipped out.
 
If you guys think Whitmer is the problem with this offense you don't know $#17 about football.

Whitmer struggled, yes. He missed a few wide open guys. He also made some plays with his feet. The long pass too McQuillan wasn't his fault. McQuillan, BTW, dropped another first down pass today. McQuillan stopped his route and that's why the ball looked overthrown.

But this o-line still can't pass protect or run block. Whitmer has to get better, but so do the guys around him.

And...

44%, 0 TDs, 8 INTs. I've seen Boyle, if the coaches play him I'll root for him, but there is zero reason to think this team will be any better with him at QB.


OL MUST play better. They need to 'get a mean on'... so far, as a unit, unacceptable...
 
I'm done. You've gone full in defense of your position and everyone knows you never go full . WE know nothing about football???? Done with you.
Oh no. My life is over. How will I go on. Please don't quit on me. I need you. You complete me. Darkness envelops me. Blackness. Only blackness.

If Boyle comes in I hope he lights it up.

But long term he, and the team, are best served by him redshirting to put a year between him and Cochran. You are unwilling to accept or unable to understand that.

If the team is gonna suck, let it suck with a senior rather than burning a redshirt again on a crappy team.

The run game looked great btw, and our guys don't drop any passes, so we have that going for us.
 
And...

44%, 0 TDs, 8 INTs. I've seen Boyle, if the coaches play him I'll root for him, but there is zero reason to think this team will be any better with him at QB.

Will it be worse? Guide those of us who know nothing all knowing Wing. For someone who knows so much it's surprising that you don't understand the basic concept that football is a game of inches. Whither over threw 3 scores by a few feet.
 
Oh no. My life is over. How will I go on. Please don't quit on me. I need you. You complete me. Darkness envelops me. Blackness. Only blackness.

If Boyle comes in I hope he lights it up.

But long term he, and the team, are best served by him redshirting to put a year between him and Cochran. You are unwilling to accept or unable to understand that.

If the team is gonna suck, let it suck with a senior rather than burning a redshirt again on a crappy team.

The run game looked great btw, and our guys don't drop any passes, so we have that going for us.

One. Obnoxious would be the understatement of the decade when describing you as a poster. Fragile maybe?

Two. We've said all along that it comes down to whether or not Casey will play again but you've probably missed that because you like to hear yourself talk.
 
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Oh no. My life is over. How will I go on. Please don't quit on me. I need you. You complete me. Darkness envelops me. Blackness. Only blackness.

If Boyle comes in I hope he lights it up.

But long term he, and the team, are best served by him redshirting to put a year between him and Cochran. You are unwilling to accept or unable to understand that.

If the team is gonna suck, let it suck with a senior rather than burning a redshirt again on a crappy team.

The run game looked great btw, and our guys don't drop any passes, so we have that going for us.

When a team loses, and they're trying to build a program into relevancy, actually nobody's safe. We're in that kinda spot in Storrs CT. It's next man up. It's hard watching us "rebuild", but you can't beat in game experience bro. This team isn't built to wait and develop at QB. It's a harsh reality because we have to show and prove NOW in order to get the P5 conference love.
 
If you guys think Whitmer is the problem with this offense you don't know $#17 about football.

Whitmer struggled, yes. He missed a few wide open guys. He also made some plays with his feet. The long pass too McQuillan wasn't his fault. McQuillan, BTW, dropped another first down pass today. McQuillan stopped his route and that's why the ball looked overthrown.

But this o-line still can't pass protect or run block. Whitmer has to get better, but so do the guys around him.

And...

44%, 0 TDs, 8 INTs. I've seen Boyle, if the coaches play him I'll root for him, but there is zero reason to think this team will be any better with him at QB.

Seriously? Those who think overthrowing open receiver after open receiver don't know $ hit about football? You have completely lost your mind. If he hits those passes, the running game improves, pass rush slows and UCONN wins by 21. But he did t and SBU didn't have to worry about deep coverage and was able to attack the QB and stuff the running game.
 
red shirt magenta shirt, who cares/future is now/throw whole roster into fray

new coach is a recruiter; his strong shirt, i mean suit

if they have to worry about current 3rd string qb being available in 2017 the prog is joke

just maybe a real qb is being eyed by new coach
 
One. Obnoxious would be the understatement of the decade when describing you as a poster. Fragile maybe?

Two. We've said all along that it comes down to whether or not Casey will play again but you've probably missed that because you like to hear yourself talk.

One. You tell me you're done with me as if I'm supposed to care. Self-absorbed maybe? Then you continue to address me. Your anger is making you irrational.

Two. Of course we did. When did I suggest otherwise?

I really like how you actually address the points I made.

Like the dropped passes, and guys quitting on their routes. That wouldn't make a ball look overthrown though. And yeah, the blocking and rushing. Fantastic right?
 
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Seriously? Those who think overthrowing open receiver after open receiver don't know $ hit about football? You have completely lost your mind. If he hits those passes, the running game improves, pass rush slows and UCONN wins by 21. But he did t and SBU didn't have to worry about deep coverage and was able to attack the QB and stuff the running game.

That's not what I said.

If you want to address what i said, let me know.
Will it be worse? Guide those of us who know nothing all knowing Wing. For someone who knows so much it's surprising that you don't understand the basic concept that football is a game of inches. Whither over threw 3 scores by a few feet.

I don't know if it will or won't. But Boyle didn't show anything to make us think it would be better.

You refuse to address the point about redshirting him for the future.

McQuillan quit on one of those, he slowed his route right when the ball was being thrown.
 
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When a team loses, and they're trying to build a program into relevancy, actually nobody's safe. We're in that kinda spot in Storrs CT. It's next man up. It's hard watching us "rebuild", but you can't beat in game experience bro. This team isn't built to wait and develop at QB. It's a harsh reality because we have to show and prove NOW in order to get the P5 conference love.

Read what Boyle said about using this year to redshirt.

I was surprised to see Johnson in. We now have three freshman RBs getting PT
 
That's not what I said.

If you want to address what i said, let me know.


I don't know if it will or won't. But Boyle didn't show anything to make us think it would be better.

You refuse to address the point about redshirting him for the future.

McQuillan quit on one of those, he slowed his route right when the ball was being thrown.

I did address what you said - that Whitmer isn't the problem, the OL is. The OL'S job is significantly harder as a result of his ability to throw over the top. The OL gave him a ton of opportunities to a me plays today and he didnt.
 
The only thing playing Boyle accomplishes is losing his 5th year.

The question is how many more wins and how many more tickets does Boyle sell by playing? The answer is if that's worth his 5th year. I personally don't. But I'm not ready to defend my position to the death.
 
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Both Chandler and Whitmer were bad today. Missed a ton of open WR's. What was irritating was listening to Diaco and Whitmer after the game. Whitmer said he had fun and Diaco was not even phased that we beat Stony brook by 3. We stunk. Fox saved the game. If I were the coach I would have flipped out.
In his defense, we don't know that he didn't flip out. Flipping out in the locker room vs flipping out to the media are two different things.
 
Then you wonder if we are terrible and he doesn't see the field does he just give up and transfer?
 
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I've heard legends of people who called themselves "Whitmer supporters" but they've gone extinct by now

I'm a Whitmer supporter.

I'm a Whitmer supporter primarily because I'm a UConn supporter. It never ceases to amaze me how many UConn supporters behave in a fashion that doesn't support UConn. I'm also a Cochran supporter, for full disclosure. And there would be no way in hell that I would support playing Cochran if he had a concussion today, no matter how bad of a game Whitmer had. And giving Boyle an extra year separation from Cochran is the right thing to do.

Now, if people really want something to chew on, I want to know how on earth our team averaged 2.2 yard per carry and 88 total yards on the ground against an FCS team. Answer that question, and then we will have identified the biggest issue in my mind...
 
Those who think overthrowing open receiver after open receiver don't know $ hit about football?
I did address what you said - that Whitmer isn't the problem, the OL is..

I didn't say that.

I didn't say Whitmer isn't the problem, the OL is.

I'll be more specific.

This offense has more to worry about than the accuracy of the QB. If you think the offense would be much better with a more accurate QB, well, I disagree.

Casey is more accurate (and my choice) but the offense isn't going to be much better with him if the other 10 don't improve.
 
It provides zero benefit this year. It *potentially* benefits the program by giving the *potential* QB of the future a year to develop. 2016, 2017 Boyle would have more of Diaco's recruits at OL, etc. If he plays in 2014 it could be a repeat of 2013, which I think we all agree was detrimental to his confidence and development.

Bottom line... either way it is guesswork. My preference is to weigh the long term just a little more than the short term. Most of the time, people making financial or other decisions tend to over-weigh the short term. Whether or not Cochran comes back will be a large factor in the decision to burn or save the redshirt.

This is the perfect response to the OP. You aren't a "Whitmer Supporter" if you are merely looking at what is best for the UConn Football Program. Boyle needs time. Cochran is the key; then, you go from there.
 
Whitmer has to hit those passes at least one time. He moves well in the pocket but is inaccurate which is a killer.

I want UCONN to win and if that means Boyle gives them the best chance, then he should play

Explain how Whitmer moves well in the pocket...... From my perspective he failed to step up into the pocket and opted to roll out or panicked under pressure 90% of the time. Are we watching the same game?
 
I didn't say that.

I didn't say Whitmer isn't the problem, the OL is.

I'll be more specific.

This offense has more to worry about than the accuracy of the QB. If you think the offense would be much better with a more accurate QB, well, I disagree.

Casey is more accurate (and my choice) but the offense isn't going to be much better with him if the other 10 don't improve.

This is one of the most baffling things I have heard on the Boneyard. The O has more to worry about than the accuracy of the QB? You don't think his inability to hit open receivers impacts the WR's, OL performance and running game? And that is to say nothing the missed paasss impact on the overall psyche of the offense (and opposing defense for that matter).
 
This entire thread was developed to insult our leading rusher today. That's right. Whitmer was our leading rusher today with 29 yards on the ground, which includes any yardage he lost on sacks.

I would like everyone to ponder that comment for a moment...
 
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