Which schools benefited the most from the portal?

[Carnac]

Aren’t there rules against recruiting transfers?

The transfer portal is a recruiting pool. That’s the sole purpose of its existence. To have all of the players wishing to transfer in one place. A player enters the pool, and waits for schools that are interested to contact (recruit) her, unless she has asked not to be contacted (they already have something in the works with another school).

Sometimes parents or AAU coaches (behind the scenes) work out a clandestine agreement for the player (before they enter the portal) that no one will admit to. In these cases, we never know who contacted who first. Players are not considered “transfers“ until they declare, and enter the portal.

 

[Cuango]

I am very interested to see how Kara does this season. I feel like this is the baseline for her as we are finally completely over all the Covid madness. I have always felt that she has “the goods” and is likely to be a very good coach. I guess this is when we find out.

 

[Bone Dog]

The transfer portal is a recruiting pool. That’s the sole purpose of its existence. To have all of the players wishing to transfer in one place. A player enters the pool, and waits for schools that are interested to contact (recruit) her, unless she has asked not to be contacted.

Sometimes parents or AAU coaches (behind the scenes) work out a clandestine agreement for the player that no one will admit to. In these cases, we never know who contacted who first. Players are not considered “transfers“ until they declare, and enter the portal.

Ok. I was thinking of cases where a player is recruited from off an active team roster — that is, before they enter the portal. I seem to recall Geno mentioning this as an abuse.

 

[Carnac]

Ok. I was thinking of cases where a player is recruited from off an active team roster — that is, before they enter the portal. I seem to recall Geno mentioning this as an abuse.

Yes. You recall correctly. It is an abuse.

 

[JellyBean]

By July, lo and behold another strong contender emerged so..

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Texas put together a pretty decent roster.

 

[VA Huskie]

If any team will benefit from the 2022 transfer portal it should be Virginia. Yes, Virginia only won 5 games last season and I would not expect to see them in the final four. But, they should improve significantly with Sam Brunellle and Alexia Smith. Also, don’t forget about Mir McClean who transferred just before the start of the 2022 second semester. Charlie appears to have limited his selections to include only the higher ranked teams that will benefit from the portal and should have titled his article as such.

I was so upset with his leaving Sam off the list (not even an “others considered”) that I wrote him an email. Not surprisingly, no response.

 

[socal613ws]

will never understand why people get so offended over a list. Anyone can make one, you don't have to agree with it.

 

[GEAinAustin]

Lsu, Tenn., and other big schools, with big salaried coaches aren't dipping into the pool, they're swimming in it. When they miss out on top recruits 'the portal basically allows them to secure talent they previously couldn't sign. The system is basically having a waiver or minor league platform that enable coaches to help with their job security in securing talent, to get quick results. A formula should have been put in place where a quota is in effect., not enabling schools to abuse the system and change the balance of power and build entire rosters.

 

[Stymie]

Aren’t there rules against recruiting transfers?

Yeah, that and no show jobs.
( nod,nod,wink,wink)

 

[Zarathustra]

Texas put together a pretty decent roster.

Like that 6' 4" player from the Pac 12.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

Lsu, Tenn., and other big schools, with big salaried coaches aren't dipping into the pool, they're swimming in it. When they miss out on top recruits 'the portal basically allows them to secure talent they previously couldn't sign. The system is basically having a waiver or minor league platform that enable coaches to help with their job security in securing talent, to get quick results. A formula should have been put in place where a quota is in effect., not enabling schools to abuse the system and change the balance of power and build entire rosters.

The portal was sold as something to benefit the students when in reality it's to help coaches.

 

[UConnCat]

We won't know until the end of the season which teams benefited most from the portal. What we know now is which teams are expected to rely on players from the portal during the upcoming season.

 

[Alydar]

We won't know until the end of the season which teams benefited most from the portal. What we know now is which teams are expected to rely on players from the portal during the upcoming season.

If Mimi Collins has another year of eligibility she can transfer back to Tenn next season.

 

[WFFL]

We won't know until the end of the season which teams benefited most from the portal. What we know now is which teams are expected to rely on players from the portal during the upcoming season.

If a team full or portal players win the nati this season the college game and high school recruiting will forever be "Doomed" !

 

[UConnCat]

If a team full or portal players win the nati this season the college game and high school recruiting will forever be "Doomed" !

I doubt it. HS recruiting will still need to be the lifeblood of successful programs.

To be sure, there have already been teams that would not have won a national championship without a transfer or 2. It just happened before the "portal" arrived on the scene.

South Carolina doesn't win in 2017 without Kaela Davis and Allisha Gray.
Notre Dame doesn't win in 2018 without Jessica Shephard
Baylor doesn't win in 2019 without Chloe Jackson.

 

[WFFL]

I doubt it. HS recruiting will still need to be the lifeblood of successful programs.

To be sure, there have already been teams that would not have won a national championship without a transfer or 2. It just happened before the "portal" arrived on the scene.

South Carolina doesn't win in 2017 without Kaela Davis and Allisha Gray.
Notre Dame doesn't win in 2018 without Jessica Shephard
Baylor doesn't win in 2019 without Chloe Jackson.

Agreed , but the way NIL is changing the game along with the portal being a free agency market pretty much high school recruits wont be as coveted or majorty wont finish 4 years at the same school . Poaching and $$ signs will start a trend that was already going but now that its free to do openly it will definitely impact recruiting high school seniors . Imagine 5 of the top 10 players in the country utilizing the transfer portal to all form a superteam somewhere that will give them each 100K for 1 season . That's the future , just waiting on who has the kahunas to actually do it . Rumor this past offseason of this flew a bit but did not develop as coach yo could not get the job done down in Ole miss with the portal.

 

[Stymie]

I agree.
ESPN asks whether Lou's talent as MAAC POY can translate to the Big East & the national stage.
That and the fact that the MAAC conference was #25 in the NET rankings out of 32 WBB conferences is another major factor leading to her individual ranking being so low.
Fairfield's NET ranking was #102, and despite being the MAAC champions, they lost games to Rutgers, Yale, UMass & Siena among others.
As UConn's most experienced guard with 4 full years of PT, Lou will have a chip on her shoulder & extra pressure to prove herself.

NET WBB Conference Rankings 2021-2022 below:

Conference NET Ranking - 2022 Women's College Basketball | WarrenNolan.com

2022 Women's College Basketball Conference NET - a ranking of conference based on the average NET Ranking of the teams in the conference.

www.warrennolan.com

I think Lou will slip into her role very nicely.
A couple of months mixing it up with her new UCONN teammates will allow her to become acclimated to this higher level of skill and competition.
I expect she’ll do fine.

Agreed , but the way NIL is changing the game along with the portal being a free agency market pretty much high school recruits wont be as coveted or majorty wont finish 4 years at the same school . Poaching and $$ signs will start a trend that was already going but now that its free to do openly it will definitely impact recruiting high school seniors . Imagine 5 of the top 10 players in the country utilizing the transfer portal to all form a superteam somewhere that will give them each 100K for 1 season . That's the future , just waiting on who has the kahunas to actually do it . Rumor this past offseason of this flew a bit but did not develop as coach yo could not get the job done down in Ole miss with the portal.

$100k- Agent-taxes is jingling money, not folding money.
Tip top players want to go to the Pros.
That really narrows the field.
And if parents still have any input, the sheepskin still matters.

 

[cancontent]

Agreed , but the way NIL is changing the game along with the portal being a free agency market pretty much high school recruits wont be as coveted or majorty wont finish 4 years at the same school . Poaching and $$ signs will start a trend that was already going but now that its free to do openly it will definitely impact recruiting high school seniors . Imagine 5 of the top 10 players in the country utilizing the transfer portal to all form a superteam somewhere that will give them each 100K for 1 season . That's the future , just waiting on who has the kahunas to actually do it . Rumor this past offseason of this flew a bit but did not develop as coach yo could not get the job done down in Ole miss with the portal.

Wasn't aware Ole Miss was the school in question. I remember the rumour though.

 

[Bone Dog]

Approaching the portal situation from the academic side, as a college prof, I am always struck by kids who transfer out of their region to go from one state school to another. It's difficult to imagine any academic reason for the transfer in most such cases, which means it's essentially done for pre-professional positioning. I have no objection to this at all from an academic point of view, but it is yet another indicator of the professionalization of the college game.

 

[GEAinAustin]

I have mentioned this before. The Texas Q.B. left , went to Ohio State, received 2 million in endorsements, came back to Texas and is making 4 million per.

 

[WFFL]

I have mentioned this before. The Texas Q.B. left , went to Ohio State, received 2 million in endorsements, came back to Texas and is making 4 million per.

Prime example , this will be the new norm for all college sports . The bidding war is legal now and as much as we hate to say it when it comes to our precious young athletes the money will be the deciding factor based on the school's bucket of NIL endorsers. The bigger the school the more the money. Unless a small mid major invests all NIL deals and money into 1 top recruit resulting in a weird commitment. Waiting on that one to happen too.

 

[HopJim]

Impressed that Lou was ranked in the top 29 transfers. Most of the players in this list are top flight talent.

 

[Bone Dog]

Impressed that Lou was ranked in the top 29 transfers. Most of the players in this list are top flight talent.

Yours may be the right take on this situation. But I’m not sure what to make of many of these estimates. Some (like Rivers) are mainly based on high school rankings, and others are based on what they did at other schools before transferring. I don’t think Lou was well known at the recruiting stage and this makes it hard to know how to place her next to someone like Rivers. On the other hand, Lou has a stellar record of achievement at a lesser program and the challenge is estimating how this has prepared her for the level of play at a major D1 program. Is she comparable to Abby Meyers? Or Lavender Briggs? Or Sara Scalia? Or Rickea Jackson? I can imagine answering these questions either way.

The players whose experience and/or record put them obviously above Lou seem to have come from Maryland: Reese, Collins and Owusu. Like Lou, these were go-to players every night, but they did it at a major D1 program. The only caveat I can imagine is the fact that so many kids left Maryland. This either means Friese’s program was too demanding, or not demanding enough. Either way, the culture of the team was not enough to hang onto them. We lost several players, too, but none of them were getting even regular rotation minutes. Losing even one such player in a season is quite unusual for us. Minnesota and Oregon are other examples of schools who lose major players to the portal.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

The combination of NIL plus the no sit rule for transferring is creating a storm. I don't have an issue with NIL but think the NCAA screwed up big time by not putting some types of restraints on it. Additionally, I've been not the least bit shy about my dislike for the no sit transfer rule. I didn't like waivers to not have to sit either and believe they should have only existed in extreme, and I mean literally extreme, circumstances. However that genie is also out of the bottle and isn't going back in.

Just give me my Decaf and Vanilla Wafers and let me shake my fist at the cloud for a bit lol.

 

[Bone Dog]

I don't have an issue with NIL but think the NCAA screwed up big time by not putting some types of restraints on it.

I’m not a law-talking guy, but I don’t think the NCAA had any legal basis for regulating NIL. It’s surprising to me that the old rules concerning student athletes making money survived as long as they did. A cultural fantasy about amateurism in athletics seems to have protected them.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

I’m not a law-talking guy, but I don’t think the NCAA had any legal basis for regulating NIL. It’s surprising to me that the old rules concerning student athletes making money survived as long as they did. A cultural fantasy about amateurism in athletics seems to have protected them.

You are probably correct, but the NCAA "could" have gotten in front of the issue but dug their heels in and refused to change with the times. And yes, I am not a fan of the larger organization lol.