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I have not seen UCONN play this year. I know they are tall at all positions, can score at each position, and are all solid from the free throw line. I also know they are great defensively. I am curious to know from UCONN fans, and others who have seen UCONN play this season, which NCAA Women's team matches up best defensively. Thanks.
 
I have not seen UCONN play this year. I know they are tall at all positions, can score at each position, and are all solid from the free throw line. I also know they are great defensively. I am curious to know from UCONN fans, and others who have seen UCONN play this season, which NCAA Women's team matches up best defensively. Thanks.

Actually UConn is quite undersized this year. Usually the only position that they will hold a height advantage at is the #3 because of Samuelson.

IMHO Baylor poses the most problems for UConn on both ends of the floor.
 
Probably not the answer you might want but I really do not see any "defense" stopping UConn. They always seem to get high quality shots (most of the time) and rarely force anything. The best "defense" to play is to somehow get us into foul trouble where we are unfortunately very vulnerable due to a weak bench. The only other way is if we shoot poorly as a team which is possible but not likely since we have many weapons. All 5 starting players can do major damage at any time.

PS. You should watch a few UConn games. You might like it. :D

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Just curious, is there an OSU WBB forum. Never could find one.
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On an off shooting night like against Tulane, a few teams could pose problems besides Baylor. Maryland (as they did when we played them) and ND (MM knows our program). To a lesser extent FSU (with a healthy Romero who missed the 1st game), an improved Texas and a revengeful South Carolina team.

Note I did not include OSU or any PAC12 schools as despite the fact your conference is super competitive within, the top of the conference is not as strong sat the other conference leaders- UConn, FSU, ND, SC, Baylor, MD. Which begs the question, why doesn't Rueck play any of these teams and then not only would you see these schools, we would see you. The best OOC school on OSU schedule this year was Marquette which OSU lost to. To be considered a top program, play top programs and win.
 
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IMHO, UCONN's 2 biggest weaknesses this season (that Geno has needed to "mask") are size and depth. Our post players are 5'11" and 6'1" or so. Having said that, while it's a weakness, in some ways it's also an advantage - Gabby and Napheesa are very athletic and mobile. Much quicker than the 6'4"+ players who may guard them. Still, it's a weakness that teams with quality bigs should expose.

Teams like Baylor, Texas and SC should pose problems for UCONN on paper. Yet we beat all of them. But still, to me those are the types of teams who we should have the toughest time defending.
 
Plenty of teams match-up defensively against our girls. Coach Auriemma has even said as much, especially after the Maryland game, when UConn was up 14-15 points and let Maryland back to within 4-5 points. The problem is, no team has figured out how to put it all together.
 
On an off shooting night like against Tulane, a few teams could pose problems besides Baylor. Maryland (as they did when we played them) and ND (MM knows our program). To a lesser extent FSU (with a healthy Romero who missed the 1st game), an improved Texas and a revengeful South Carolina team.

Note I did not include OSU or any PAC12 schools as despite the fact your conference is super competitive within, the top of the conference is not as strong sat the other conference leaders- UConn, FSU, ND, SC, Baylor, MD. Which begs the question, why doesn't Rueck play any of these teams and then not only would you see these schools, we would see you. The best OOC school on OSU schedule this year was Marquette which OSU lost to. To be considered a top program, play top programs and win.
Thanks for the reply. My belief is UCLA/UW/Stanford/OSU would definitely challenge FSU/ND/SC/Baylor/MD. May not win, but these teams wouldn't necessarily steamroll these 4 x PAC12 teams. UCONN is unique to me because UCONN is always a superior defensive team (as well as superior offensive team). I believe the PAC12 upper echelon is better this year than last year. As has been pointed out in other posts, the PAC12 offensive depth across these 4 teams is weaker than last year (exception to UW). That is why the NCAA Tournament is such fun, because it brings to surface how strong/weak each conference really is at end of season. I do wish OSU would schedule more quality OOC teams. Thanks for your reply to my question.
 
I have not seen UCONN play this year. I know they are tall at all positions, can score at each position, and are all solid from the free throw line. I also know they are great defensively. I am curious to know from UCONN fans, and others who have seen UCONN play this season, which NCAA Women's team matches up best defensively. Thanks.
I think what UConn has that is quite rare in WCBB is a consistently fluid offense combined with a tenacious defense. And they put a starting five on the floor who are all capable scorers (they have all had games of 20+ points this year, and three have cracked thirty.) Defensively, OSU seems quite similar, but you seem to struggle to score points and it is easier for teams to key on your offensive threats.

As far as toughest match-ups, people above have hit on them - the biggest weakness is possible foul trouble. The bench is two deep with a freshman guard (good, but a freshman!), and a transfer junior post who is a good utility player who has come up big against some of the bigger front lines we have played.
 
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Honestly the formula to beat UConn was on display by Dawn when they played USCar: Have a big, athletic front line that stays active on defense and matches UConn's energy. Don't try to run with UConn. Stay patient on offense, execute, and minimize turnovers. The offense needs guards that have good recognition, are good passers AND good shooters that can create off the dribble when UConn cuts off your passing lanes. The difficulty in the first part is most big front lines either have size or they're athletic. Few have both. Baylor and Maryland do have such front courts. However not many can match UConn's activity level for 4 quarters. So far none have. The second part is easier for quite a few teams have good shooting, good passing guards. The problem is patience, recognition, and execution in the backcourt. Geno likes to mix his defenses from M2M to 2/3 or triangle and 2 zones. He'll also throw in a box and one. Patience, recognition and execution. UScar's backcourt falls down here, and in my opinion because of experience, so does Maryland. Baylor's backcourt with a healthy Jones, has the most qualities here, and IMO has the best chance of knocking off UConn.
 
Honestly the formula to beat UConn was on display by Dawn when they played USCar: Have a big, athletic front line that stays active on defense and matches UConn's energy. Don't try to run with UConn. Stay patient on offense, execute, and minimize turnovers. The offense needs guards that have good recognition, are good passers AND good shooters that can create off the dribble when UConn cuts off your passing lanes. The difficulty in the first part is most big front lines either have size or they're athletic. Few have both. Baylor and Maryland do have such front courts. However not many can match UConn's activity level for 4 quarters. So far none have. The second part is easier for quite a few teams have good shooting, good passing guards. The problem is patience, recognition, and execution in the backcourt. Geno likes to mix his defenses from M2M to 2/3 or triangle and 2 zones. He'll also throw in a box and one. Patience, recognition and execution. UScar's backcourt falls down here, and in my opinion because of experience, so does Maryland. Baylor's backcourt with a healthy Jones, has the most qualities here, and IMO has the best chance of knocking off UConn.

Excellent analysis but I have not observed the triangle + 2 or the box +1 defenses you cited. When did I miss them?

Most often, what I have watched are either M2M or 2-3/1-2-2 zones.
 
Thanks for the reply. My belief is UCLA/UW/Stanford/OSU would definitely challenge FSU/ND/SC/Baylor/MD. May not win, but these teams wouldn't necessarily steamroll these 4 x PAC12 teams. UCONN is unique to me because UCONN is always a superior defensive team (as well as superior offensive team). I believe the PAC12 upper echelon is better this year than last year. As has been pointed out in other posts, the PAC12 offensive depth across these 4 teams is weaker than last year (exception to UW). That is why the NCAA Tournament is such fun, because it brings to surface how strong/weak each conference really is at end of season. I do wish OSU would schedule more quality OOC teams. Thanks for your reply to my question.
This is probably for a different thread but as I want to pose it to you, as an OSU fan, there has been a lot of dialogue on your coach being courted by "more established" programs. I am curious as to the thought and support the school, the fans and even the coach himself feel they have built and are building and if he would leave. Personally, I would love for him to stay and establish a top echelon program to rival Tara on the west coast and become the flag bearer once she retires for the conference.
 
Excellent analysis but I have not observed the triangle + 2 or the box +1 defenses you cited. When did I miss them?

Most often, what I have watched are either M2M or 2-3/1-2-2 zones.
Geno used it some early and late against Memphis. When Tierney was in at 9:35 in the 1st they started in a triangle and 2. What seems a 1-2-2 is really a triangle and 2. A 1-2-2 nowadays is used more often as a full court press. Geno likes the box and 1 if a guard is being particularly troublesome and that guard is played M2M while everyone else remains in a zone.
 
This is probably for a different thread but as I want to pose it to you, as an OSU fan, there has been a lot of dialogue on your coach being courted by "more established" programs. I am curious as to the thought and support the school, the fans and even the coach himself feel they have built and are building and if he would leave. Personally, I would love for him to stay and establish a top echelon program to rival Tara on the west coast and become the flag bearer once she retires for the conference.
Rueck is an OSU graduate, and has loved OSU basketball from the days of Ralph Miller's Orange Express men's team success. OSU just had their first women's basketball sold out game (vs Stanford) which was a major goal of Rueck's. He is on cloud nine right now, and OSU fans love him. I think he will stay at OSU for a while.
 
Thanks for the feedback as the northern part of the PAC12 news is a bit muted. Here's the real question-can and will they pay him and be able to both financially and infrastructural support a top program ala Tennessee, UConn, Baylor, ND, SC, Stanford and MD? Those schools put a lot of resources into them-undergrad assts, media training, strength and conditioning, full time academic advisors, basketball operations mgr (and assistants). At best the top programs break even so it is an interesting conundrum. I am rooting for you, him and OSU (and Sydney Wiese).
 
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Rueck is an OSU graduate, and has loved OSU basketball from the days of Ralph Miller's Orange Express men's team success. OSU just had their first women's basketball sold out game (vs Stanford) which was a major goal of Rueck's. He is on cloud nine right now, and OSU fans love him. I think he will stay at OSU for a while.
He probably feels that way now, but money changes things. He makes $385,000 per year. An offer doubling that with a chance to triple it might take a couple days to soak in, be he would eventually realize it would be life-changing for him and his family.
 
I have not seen UCONN play this year. I know they are tall at all positions, can score at each position, and are all solid from the free throw line. I also know they are great defensively. I am curious to know from UCONN fans, and others who have seen UCONN play this season, which NCAA Women's team matches up best defensively. Thanks.
Good question. The general consensus here appears to be that a team with size and athletic wings/guards would pose the biggest challenge for these Huskies defensively.

I have a simpler view, that the team that would best challenge the Huskies defensively, is the team currently playing the best defense (after UConn), and that is ND. After some early season hiccups, Muffet has the Irish playing their best basketball, and that starts on the defensive end. The win yesterday vs FSU was convincing.

If the Huskies run into the Irish again in the FF, it will be a battle reminiscent of past UConn/ND games. While I am not really worried about another matchup against ND, I wouldn't mind if some tough, well-coached team took the Irish out of the tournament in the regionals.....somebody just like the Beavers. ;)
 
A lot of people keep saying that in order to beat UConn you have to be able to score with them.. and while that may be true.. teams like Maryland and Notre Dame (teams that typically can score with UConn for most of the game) always seem to falter in the end.

In my humble opinion, the key to beating UConn is NOT scoring "with UConn" or trying to keep pace with them. The key is forcing the game to be played at YOUR pace, whatever that is.. it just can't be at UConn's pace.. otherwise you're gonna chug along and allow their defense to wear down your offense and next thing you know you're down by 20.

SC played the game at their pace for an entire half, and actually lead a chunk of the half before mentally collapsing late in the 2nd and UConn started running all over the court like Huskies, literally. In that first half, SC did not try to "score with UConn".. they played their style of play which in turn was how they kept score with UConn.

The team that's able to play at their pace for most of the game and stay mentally focused for the entire game versus UConn will be the team that beat them. I've watched A LOT of WCBB in search of a team that can hopefully do that and I've yet to see one... so I don't believe that team exists at this moment, but I would love to be wrong.

But to answer your question, I think the teams that matchup best with UConn defensively are 1. Florida State 2. Baylor 3. South Carolina. I've ranked them that way for 1 reason... Gabby Williams. She's a TOUGH guard. IMHO, Samuelson and Collier are very "guardable" (although Collier still puts up big numbers regardless). I think Florida State has a player that can guard Gabby Williams and her name is Shakayla Thomas... so I would love to see a rematch there.
 
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SC - you nailed it.

Its keeping up with UConn. UConn plays the entire 40 minutes - no let up. SC, ND, Maryland stayed close then all faltered in the 4th quarter. The other item teams need to be aware of is the famous "UConn run." That 7 - 0, 10 - 0 or heaven forbid a 20 - 0 run that puts the nail in the coffin. And the run will happen. Teams can only hope to survive it but none have so far.
 
A lot of people keep saying that in order to beat UConn you have to be able to score with them.. and while that may be true.. teams like Maryland and Notre Dame (teams that typically can score with UConn for most of the game) always seem to falter in the end.

In my humble opinion, the key to beating UConn is NOT scoring "with UConn" or trying to keep pace with them. The key is forcing the game to be played at YOUR pace, whatever that is.. it just can't be at UConn's pace.. otherwise you're gonna chug along and allow their defense to wear down your offense and next thing you know you're down by 20.

SC played the game at their pace for an entire half, and actually lead a chunk of the half before mentally collapsing late in the 2nd and UConn started running all over the court like Huskies, literally. In that first half, SC did not try to "score with UConn".. they played their style of play which in turn was how they kept score with UConn.

The team that's able to play at their pace for most of the game and stay mentally focused for the entire game versus UConn will be the team that beat them. I've watched A LOT of WCBB in search of a team that can hopefully do that and I've yet to see one... so I don't believe that team exists at this moment, but I would love to be wrong.

But to answer your question, I think the teams that matchup best with UConn defensively are 1. Florida State 2. Baylor 3. South Carolina. I've ranked them that way for 1 reason... Gabby Williams. She's a TOUGH guard. IMHO, Samuelson and Collier are very "guardable" (although Collier still puts up big numbers regardless). I think Florida State has a player that can guard Gabby Williams and her name is Shakayla Thomas... so I would love to see a rematch there.

Thank you for this reply. When you say Gabby Williams is TOUGH, do you mean physically imposing to her defender? I am recording the UCONN game tonight, and will finally get to watch my first UCONN game, so hopefully I can better understand your comment. OSU played UCONN last year in Final 4 so I remember a good deal about UCONN, but I haven't watched their team this season. Thanks again.
 
Thank you for this reply. When you say Gabby Williams is TOUGH, do you mean physically imposing to her defender?
Not to speak for SCGamecock, but I would suggest that on offense, Gabby is quick, athletic and relentless. She is great off the dribble driving to the basket, exceptional running the court, a tremendous passer and a great offensive rebounder. Her only weakness is that her jump shot can be inconsistent. When Gabby develops a consistent jump shot, she will be "unguardable" IMO.
 
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Thanks for the reply. My belief is UCLA/UW/Stanford/OSU would definitely challenge FSU/ND/SC/Baylor/MD. May not win, but these teams wouldn't necessarily steamroll these 4 x PAC12 teams. UCONN is unique to me because UCONN is always a superior defensive team (as well as superior offensive team). I believe the PAC12 upper echelon is better this year than last year. As has been pointed out in other posts, the PAC12 offensive depth across these 4 teams is weaker than last year (exception to UW). That is why the NCAA Tournament is such fun, because it brings to surface how strong/weak each conference really is at end of season. I do wish OSU would schedule more quality OOC teams. Thanks for your reply to my question.
Is this Oregon State(there is only one tOSU) better than last year's FF team w/o Jamie Weisner and Ruth Hamblin? Weise is the best PG in America, but I don't see this team being better than last year's which Connecticut destroyed, containing both Wiesner and Weise. I believe for a team to beat Connecticut is more about what they don't do on a given night as opposed to what any other team does. What Connecticut has that os more important than anything is the supreme belief that no one can beat them. They believe, I mean really believe that they are supposed to win every time they step on the court, no matter who the opponent is. They are relentless and they play harder than anyone else in the country for 40 minutes, teams can't match that. I was at the tOSU game in Columbus last season and it was a marvel to watch in person. I sat behind the tOSU bench and the staff and players were equally befuddled as to what to do. I don't know that the PAC12's best have any shot. UCLA is erratic, Stanford doesn't have the firepower, UW is a one-trick pony, although Osahor is fun to watch.
 
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Please if you could take at least some of ochoopsfan's suggestion and start a fan forum for OSU. A well populated and informed fanboard really helps develop the culture of the team and that is precisely was Rueck is trying to build there. By the way I'm one of many on this board that love what Rueck is doing there and I really enjoy watching his teams play.
 
Is this Oregon State(there is only one tOSU) better than last year's FF team w/o Jamie Weisner and Ruth Hamblin? Weise is the best PG in America, but I don't see this team being better than last year's which Connecticut destroyed, containing both Wiesner and Weise. I believe for a team to beat Connecticut is more about what they don't do on a given night as opposed to what any other team does. What Connecticut has that os more important than anything is the supreme belief that no one can beat them. They believe, I mean really believe that they are supposed to win every time they step on the court, no matter who the opponent is. They are relentless and they play harder than anyone else in the country for 40 minutes, teams can't match that. I was at the tOSU game in Columbus last season and it was a marvel to watch in person. I sat behind the tOSU bench and the staff and players were equally befuddled as to what to do. I don't know that the PAC12's best have any shot. UCLA is erratic, Stanford doesn't have the firepower, UW is a one-trick pony, although Osahor is fun to watch.
No question about UCONN, I'm a believer. This OSU team would match up better (lose by 19 points?) with last year's UCONN team than OSU's team last year for one reason: Ruth Hamblin is not on this team! She was a 100% liability last year against UCONN. This OSU Team is a way better defensive team, and, much better rebounding team. Ruth Hamblin & Devon Hunter's replacements this year are much better in this regard. I think OSU will get out of their regional (first 2 games) in the NCAA tourney, but don't know after that....depends on who they play in the 3rd game. I will say this, they have surprised to the upside with how resilient, tough, and determined they are to win. They have been in more close games than any OSU team I can remember, and find a way to win. Please know this, I haven't see UCONN play this year, but I don't have to...they are superior to anyone else in NCAA Women's game. I am looking forward to their game tonight.
 
Is this Oregon State(there is only one tOSU) better than last year's FF team w/o Jamie Weisner and Ruth Hamblin? Weise is the best PG in America, but I don't see this team being better than last year's which Connecticut destroyed, containing both Wiesner and Weise.

I believe Oregon St. was better last year, but their record at this point in the season is nearly identical to last year, including posting the same 16-2 conference record in what is probably an overall tougher league this year. They've mitigated the loss of Hamblin, Weisner is the one they really miss. I looked at their schedule for last year, they had a few more games w/ big winning margins, but even last year had quite a few low scoring games w/ margins of 10 or less. It's their M.O. They got blown out by UCLA and Stanford on the road last year, they've actually done better against the top teams in the Pac 12 this year. The OOC was better last year w/ games against Tennessee and Notre Dame (both close losses).

Not sure I'd even call Wiese the best PG in the Pac 12, let alone the entire country. Canada from UCLA is really good...and Plum should probably be considered the PG for UW. Not to take anything away from Wiese, she's really good too.

It's worth noting this year's Connecticut is not last year's team. Still the best in the country, but the gap between them and everyone else is not nearly as wide.
 
Thank you for this reply. When you say Gabby Williams is TOUGH, do you mean physically imposing to her defender? I am recording the UCONN game tonight, and will finally get to watch my first UCONN game, so hopefully I can better understand your comment. OSU played UCONN last year in Final 4 so I remember a good deal about UCONN, but I haven't watched their team this season. Thanks again.
What's interesting about Gabby are a few things. One of course is when Nat comes in to form a team of Lou, Gabby, Pheesa, and Kia, Gabby is literally the smallest player on the floor for Geno. Yet she generally covers the other teams biggest player. Another is her work effort. She is the fastest player on the team (Kia is close) and never stops working. You'll notice however as a team UConn runs the lanes harder than any team you've ever seen. As Debbie Antonelli said, they even run out of the locker room faster than any other.

Gabby's energy level is perhaps tops in all of CBB. She goes for every loose ball, never gives up on the play and isn't afraid to knock that big post out of the way to get the ball or rip it from their hands. When she goes up for a rebound she acts as if she owns the ball, and then dribbles out for the break. She's also the best passer on the team and leads the team in steals. Her athleticism is breathtaking and at least once a game she'll do some athletic play that is just jaw dropping.

While you're watching the game note also the near balletic moves Pheesa has on the block, and she works everything inside off the block. She's also the best cutter in WCBB. When her outside shot is on she is literally the most unguardable forward in WCBB.

Yes, UConn plays excellent defense, but their conditioning is also something the best teams have a problem with. UConn comes out of the gate in the 1st period and the 3rd period ready to play and execute, and they will execute. UConn plays with a pace that can stun teams the first time they play them, and that pace doesn't let up even when the bench is emptied.

Yes the gap between UConn and the rest of WCBB is less than it was last year. The reasons for that are simple: A far shorter bench and the fact that UConn is led by sophomores and juniors. With a bench of 10 players, two seniors, one walk on and 3 freshmen, this is a young and inexperienced team that has lots of room for improvement.
 
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No question about UCONN, I'm a believer. This OSU team would match up better (lose by 19 points?) with last year's UCONN team than OSU's team last year for one reason: Ruth Hamblin is not on this team! She was a 100% liability last year against UCONN. This OSU Team is a way better defensive team, and, much better rebounding team. Ruth Hamblin & Devon Hunter's replacements this year are much better in this regard. I think OSU will get out of their regional (first 2 games) in the NCAA tourney, but don't know after that....depends on who they play in the 3rd game. I will say this, they have surprised to the upside with how resilient, tough, and determined they are to win. They have been in more close games than any OSU team I can remember, and find a way to win. Please know this, I haven't see UCONN play this year, but I don't have to...they are superior to anyone else in NCAA Women's game. I am looking forward to their game tonight.
I really like OSU's team this year. In many ways they remind me of UConn in the manner they have exceeded expectations this year after key players graduated last year.

But one thing to keep in mind about last year's national semifinal. Stewie, last year's player of the year had possibly her worst game vs OSU, getting into early foul trouble, spending a lot a time on the bench and never really taking over the game as she was capable of.

Add to that Lou breaking her foot and sitting out the 2nd half and UConn's 19 pt win was both remarkable and could have been considerably larger.
 
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