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What would be your go to 5?

billnaples said:
DAVEINNAPLES probably knows as well as anyone but I ask the question can anyone remember a roster where there were truly 8 or 9 players with the collective talent like this club has and how were minutes distributed in the sweet 16 and beyond? I know all the years where Geno used 6 or 7. But it begs the question if he is to shorten the rotation who gets the hook?
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2001 before the injuries to Shea and Svetlana. Also, Stewie’s first season. They had nine future WNBA players.
 
Jordy said:
2001 before the injuries to Shea and Svetlana. Also, Stewie’s first season. They had nine future WNBA players.
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It was Shea's senior year so her injuries had slowed her down. Its hard to pick against 2000-2001 because of the future Hall of Famers, but Paige/ Bird , Taurasi/ Fudd...are interesting conversations.
 
Jordy said:
2001 before the injuries to Shea and Svetlana. Also, Stewie’s first season. They had nine future WNBA players.
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Okay with 8 but Doty Buck and Banks (who may have been WNBA) but was certainly not in the rotation
 
Jordy said:
Without any of the seniors?! Bold prediction
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Could be. It's a question of matchups. Edwards and Dorka are better than Liv against SC frontcourt. and Paige, Azzi and Caroline Ducharme are the only ones than can do all of create their own shot, have vision for passing, and shoot the 3, which is a necessary combo against their defense
 
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topogigio said:
I realize it is a game of match-ups, but I would go with Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Evina and Dorka. Just wondering what y'all think?
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I've been a huge proponent of short benches though I could have possibly seen 9 but thought 7 overall. Not now. This season- at this time - I don't think they have a set 5 or should have one at this moment. I think Geno goes with 9 and sees who plays best. And he keeps Paige's health in mind. . I prefer what he is doing - right now and that is go with all 9 and see who is playing best during the game.

There is no set 5 this year. I believe what Geno is going todo this year is what quite a few wanted which is play more of bench to see who is playing best. And I'm totally on board with that. :) And I like to see them press if matchup is favorable. :) And I haven't been a big advocate of that the past few years either. When you press, their usually isn't a complete set of 5. For example, I love watching Edwards defense on the perimeter at times.

Not too much vs Nova though. :)
 
CTBballfan243 said:
Paige is the Best Womens basketball player on the team and will be in the starting lineup. Azzi and Paige will be the guards that see the most minutes as UConn progresses in the post season.
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I totally misunderstood the original post. I thought we were talking about starting 5. If we're talking a go-to 5 in crunch time against a top 10 team then yes Paige is in, and Nika is out. I'd even place Caroline above Nika in crunch time, but starting off the game I'd have Nika over Caroline and even Paige (until we see her play some more minutes and continue getting back to best health) just because Nika sets the tone for this team. I'm still not totally sold on this teams half court offense, so to me getting off on the right foot on defense is vital for them. With Azzi and now Paige stepping into bigger roles, my opinion on the half court execution may soon change.
 
my2cents said:
Against SC in the championship game, it would be Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Edwards and Dorka
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Lets review the matchups in my opinion
1. Boston guarded by Liv
2. Saxton guarded by Edwards
3. Beal guarded by Paige
4. Cooke by Azzi
5. Henderson guarded by CW

I think we are better on 4 out of 5 on the matchups and we have a strong bench with Dorka on the bigs if they bring in Cardosa. Caroline would be a matchup problem for them. Nika is not quick enough for matchup Henderson. She would blow by her but maybe we could then rotate and trap her. We would let them shoot all the three's they want and then rebound and run the break on them like we did in the beggining of our first game. We have fresh troops now and the real Azzi, Caroline, Dorka, and Nika. Win by ten at least
 
bayern7 said:
Nika
Christyn
Azzi
Aaliyah
Olivia

Nika - is the key to getting this team going/feeling confident in terms of defensive pressure, good defense translates to good offense and Nika, along with Olivia, is the key.

Christyn - been playing well on both ends, also important to the defensive effort, our senior guard, Geno trusts her.

Azzi - She spreads the floor in a way that even Paige can't do right now anyways, keeps the other teams defense honest, she's had the hot hands so I say you go with that, takes the edge off with that silky jump shot.

Aaliyah - seems to be climbing back to good form at the right time, more defensively versatile than Dorka, because she can switch off/on, get out in passing lanes, and run the floor, she better suits the defensive effort that this team starts off with, most physical player we have.

Olivia - Our senior post who's playing the best all around game of her entire career, rim protector, makes our defensive pressure possible, great passer from the high post.

I think it's clear that E plays better coming off the bench.

Paige has not had enough playing time to warrant removing one of the other guards from the starting lineup IMO. Also think it's best not to do too much too soon with her, I know she looks good, but lets be real she's had surgery and been out for two months since she last started.

Caroline is a good all around player but she's a fresh and she doesn't bring what the other 3 guards or Paige bring.

Dorka still worries me at times with her hands and I don't know if she has the physicality to match some of the better teams posts that we'll hopefully face later in the tournament...Aaliyah does.
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Yeah, let's keep that National Player of the Year on the bench -- she is so last year!!! Jeeez....
 
If we are talking about FF or NC and another 5-6 weeks away, it would be very strange if PB does not start. IMHO, our staring line up would be:
PB
Olivia
Christyn
Azzi
Nika or Aaliyah (depending on matchup}
 
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I don't care as much about which specific 5, but I hope and expect Geno to use a full rotation of 9 as he has seen the benefits of it the last few games. I would be open to 4 guards for certain situations, but not as a regular diet, and I would try to have at least 2 from Paige, Azzi and Caroline on the floor at all times.

My reason for that is we need more than one serious 3pt threat on the floor to open it up inside for the bigs and penetration. A combo of Nika, Christyn and Evina for example does not work well in my opinion, despite all three being fine players. If I were an opposing coach I would not lose sleep over the prospect of those three jacking up occasional open 3's. I would guard against inside instead.

Paige will play significant minutes in time, but unless she is teamed with Azzi or Caroline she doesn't have a "great" 3pt shooter to pass to. With one or even better, two of those with her the opposing defense has to stretch to the perimeter. When they do, the nice thing is Paige, Azzi and Caroline can all take it to the hoop, and all have effective pull up jumpers. Triple threats if you will, and Liv, Dorka and Aaliyah can feast on far more easy opportunities.
 
oldhuskie said:
I don't care as much about which specific 5, but I hope and expect Geno to use a full rotation of 9 as he has seen the benefits of it the last few games. I would be open to 4 guards for certain situations, but not as a regular diet, and I would try to have at least 2 from Paige, Azzi and Caroline on the floor at all times.
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I started thinking about the different lineups we've seen this entire season, mostly due to few/no options, but now, we have 4 talented players that can come off the bench. If we look at the latest lineup (excluding SR day) of Edwards, ONO, Williams, Muhl & Fudd, that allows a sub group of Paige, CD, EW, and Dorka. Phew.

The two most ppg average (excluding lineups that only appeared once) are these, with 83.3 and 83.3:
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Having Evina, Paige, Caroline, and Edwards come off the bench sparks memories of Shea, Caroline, Bria, Maya, Diana eras. Perhaps even more important, is the interchangeability and combos of C/F and G players. In a recent game, the announcer said that Geno worked through 5-6 lineups prior to a game, so I think he could be very flexible, depending on the opponent, however I think he will stick with same starters once the BET starts as it will develop a rhythm. That being said, no guarantees on who subs in and for how long.
 
I think this is a pretty unique situation. There are not just nine players who can play at a high level, but nine players who can, on the right night, carry the team. Is there a single player among the nine in the main rotation who wan't named "badass" at least once this season? At one of the press conferences Geno said "someone has to start" but he didn't seem to think that meant all that much.
 
Azzi
Paige
Caroline
Edwards
Dorka

Evina comes off the bench. ONO comes off the bench.

I think that top five will also be the starting five come November. They're the ones who have been most consistent, most talented, and perform best together.
 
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topogigio said:
I realize it is a game of match-ups, but I would go with Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Evina and Dorka. Just wondering what y'all think?
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Depends who we are playing, but for an average size team……

Azzi, Paige, CW, Caroline, and Ono or Dorka

Against a bigger team…..

Azzi, Paige, CW, Ono and Dorka or Edwards

Against a very quick team…..

Azzi, Paige, CW, Edwards, and Caroline or Westbrook
 
jabstep said:
Lets review the matchups in my opinion
1. Boston guarded by Liv
2. Saxton guarded by Edwards
3. Beal guarded by Paige
4. Cooke by Azzi
5. Henderson guarded by CW

I think we are better on 4 out of 5 on the matchups and we have a strong bench with Dorka on the bigs if they bring in Cardosa. Caroline would be a matchup problem for them. Nika is not quick enough for matchup Henderson. She would blow by her but maybe we could then rotate and trap her. We would let them shoot all the three's they want and then rebound and run the break on them like we did in the beggining of our first game. We have fresh troops now and the real Azzi, Caroline, Dorka, and Nika. Win by ten at least
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I would put Azzi on Beal and Paige on Cooke. I don't think Azzi can keep Cooke out of the lane for extended stretches. Paige is a better on ball defender and Azzi is a better help defender.
 
I would start the game with:
Muhl, ONO, Edwards, Williams, Bueckers.

I would end the game with:
Westbrook, Yuhaz, Ducharme, Fudd, and Bueckers.
 
Context is everything. Not just "positionless" basketball
but what is needed: at that time, against that opponent,
with that special "it" factor required for energy , momentum,
and/or " make a stop/ make a score". I enjoy watching
the whole scene develope in front of me and I rarely
view it as " what is the 'best' five " as an absolute value.
Given that, I think that Geno will "find" the combination that
gives the team the best 'mix" for most situations and that
will be the " starting five" and those who will have the most playing
time at the end of 40 minutes. Go Huskies!
 
CTBballfan243 said:
Geno will shorten the rotation for sure.
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That’s his history, I wonder, though, if one of this teams great strengths is it’s roster depth and its ability to keep legs fresh, deal worth foul trouble etc.

If everyone had stayed healthy, there’s no way that we would’ve played as many people as many minutes as we have. But having had the season we’ve had, with its need to play so many young players significant minutes, it seems shortsighted to set that aside and go with a more limited rotation.
 
oldude said:
Don’t need a goto 5 when you have a goto 9. :cool:
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I wish I wrote that. The greatest team UCONN has had in a couple of years NINE strong. Geno, by design or need, has created a great Mix and match group. Plug in's. Kinda like the computer plug and play add-ons.
Geno has been thought of as having had his greatest coaching year often in his NEAR 40 years at Uconn. This one if not the greatest must be among the top greatest. Freshmen performing like Seniors doesn't happen often but AZZI, Caroline, Dorka (new to Geno's style), others out performed expectations. The Providence game was sweet frosting on the cake this team baked.
 
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Against all teams........leaves you with an effective big, a defensive spark plug, a calming veteran guard and extra scoring fire power inside and out

PB

CW
ONO
AE
 
IMO you need 2 bigs against the top teams so while the best players on UConn are guards and if you go by the best 5 it would probably be Paige, Azzi, CD, CW and ONO with E, DJ, AE, and Nika of the bench, I'll go with Paige, Azzi, CW, DJ and ONO.
 
I want to see a lineup with Nika and Paige playing simultaneously...and three others. Paige needs to start shooting.
 
IMO that can't be a constant. Depending on who we are playing the matchups and requirements can fluctuate. I will say that Paige, Azzi and Liv are the 3 that have to on be the floor at crunch time with the other 2 players being dictated by situation.
 
Charliebball said:
Against all teams........leaves you with an effective big, a defensive spark plug, a calming veteran guard and extra scoring fire power inside and out

PB
Azzi Fudd
CW
ONO
AE
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I was thinking about this line-up and started tinkering with it a bit. Aaliyah needs to be down low to be most effective, in my opinion- she doesn't pass well when up high, and her game really is centered around and near the basket. So, what if we wanted to put Caroline in AE's place, what is gained and what is lost? Aaliyah is much stronger physically, against a big forward she can hold ground well. She does score but not in great volumes. Caroline at 6-2 is almost as tall and actually has good, maybe better, footwork with the ball down low, she is crafty and can maneuver better around the basket too. Of course, she has a better outside shot too with much greater range. Maybe if she is the 4, she pulls the other 4 away from the basket, which might open things up more for the other guards.

Sometimes you just need a big, powerful forward though, if we were going to double team Boston, for example, I'd rather Aaliyah be squeezing her with Ono than Caroline. They don't call over-the-back fouls as often when a physical big like Boston is matched against a smaller, lighter person guarding her.
 
Unless the opponent is going small, I like the idea of controlling the boards with two bigger effective rebounders........If ONO is spending a good amount of time above the foul line that gives Edwards room to operate down low.......I view CD as a great outside/inside offensive option off the bench who also can be an effective defender using her size matched up against smaller players.....
 
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