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What would a Big 12 or ACC invitation look like?

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What will be the buy in period? Did SMU set the standard? Can UConn survive on no conference revenue and a much higher expense rate for 9 years?
 
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The SMU deal is the sign of a weak conference. ACC is a mess after adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU and with FSU, Clemson, and it looks like UNC wanting to leave. So, hard to say what ACC would offer if an invite would even come. The Big 12 would be a full share invite although it could start off lower and build over time kind of like the Rutgers deal with the Big 10.
 
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Big 12: It should be at least as good as the deal the corner 4 and the former AAC schools got. If it is staggered at a reduced rate, we still probably take it because it would be a foundation to continue to build on.

ACC: It will look like sheet. If the current ACC were to invite UConn, it would certainly be at a huge discount and most likely insulting. Or the ACC starts hemorrhaging programs and what's left is simply another G conference, in which case only a full share should be considered.

I have a feeling an invitation to either won't feel like opening the golden ticket we have all been hoping for.
 
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An offer to either conference would be exciting. I would just point out that if UConn joins the ACC we would be in the same conference as many of our rivals. Many of these schools are close enough so fans could actually attend away games. The ACC also has among its members some academically elite universities.
 
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It will likely be a disappointing offer. Even so, it will be hard to turn it down.
 
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The best case scenario for the ACC is that it wins its lawsuits and the GOR is ironclad until 2036. It’s still screwed. Cal, Stanford, and SMU eventually receive full shares. None of the big brands will ever sign another GOR with the ACC again. The ACC will look vastly different when the GOR ends.

We knew Texas and Oklahoma were joining the SEC 3 years before it happened, and it could have been 4 years had the two not bought out the last year. Let’s assume the ACC doesn’t let anyone buy out any time. It’s still screwed in 2036 and we could know who is going where in the early 2030s and those schools just play out there time in the ACC.

Either the SEC and B1G take what they want and the best of the rest go to the Big 12 or the big brands in the ACC start their own new league without the bottom feeders. I don’t see any other ending for the ACC.
 
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It will likely be a disappointing offer. Even so, it will be hard to turn it down.
Disagree…
It’s all about supply and demand. If we have both ACC and Big 12 showing interest we have some leverage. I don’t know that we’ll be dictating terms, but we probably would have a better offer than the previously mentioned 7 year fb delay.

UConn’s value is at the highest it’s been. Hopefully it’s high enough to force one of the P3/P4 conferences to act.
 
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The best case scenario for the ACC is that it wins its lawsuits and the GOR is ironclad until 2036. It’s still screwed. Cal, Stanford, and SMU eventually receive full shares. None of the big brands will ever sign another GOR with the ACC again. The ACC will look vastly different when the GOR ends.

We knew Texas and Oklahoma were joining the SEC 3 years before it happened, and it could have been 4 years had the two not bought out the last year. Let’s assume the ACC doesn’t let anyone buy out any time. It’s still screwed in 2036 and we could know who is going where in the early 2030s and those schools just play out there time in the ACC.

Either the SEC and B1G take what they want and the best of the rest go to the Big 12 or the big brands in the ACC start their own new league without the bottom feeders. I don’t see any other ending for the ACC.
I thought ESPN could drop out in 2 years if they wanted. Isn’t that what came out of this litigation?
 

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UConn and the State of CT will need to decide whether they want to play major college athletics or stay in the BE with the small private type schools and not compete on a National Level.

So you are blasting the whole state of Connecticut because you believe UConn will turn down an offer it has not received. You must believe any offer will be terrible.
 

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Disagree…
It’s all about supply and demand. If we have both ACC and Big 12 showing interest we have some leverage. I don’t know that we’ll be dictating terms, but we probably would have a better offer than the previously mentioned 7 year fb delay.

UConn’s value is at the highest it’s been. Hopefully it’s high enough to force one of the P3/P4 conferences to act.

So you think we will get a better offer than SMU got from the ACC?
 

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I thought you were all about the Big East? lol

I thought you promised UConn an immediate full share from two leagues that have never shown any interest in adding UConn at all.
 
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So you think we will get a better offer than SMU got from the ACC?
Yes. I think SMU is unique in that it was trying to buy its way into original Pac. They have huge amounts of cash and an extremely wealthy alumni base.
I think they bought their way into the ACC. I don’t see anyone expecting UConn to give a $7-10M/year discount for its men’s basketball. That offer is DOA.
 
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I thought ESPN could drop out in 2 years if they wanted. Isn’t that what came out of this litigation?
Yes, that’s true. I was pointing out the best case scenario for the ACC, not the worst case scenario.
 

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For the ACC, we would need a collapse to get an offer.

I'm not sure about the big 12, but having been left at the alter twice, I'm fairly skeptical.
 

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If the last 15 or so years have taught us anything, I think the invitation goes something like this:

To the Board of Directors at the University of Connecticut:

We cordially invite you to kiss our backsides as we have decided to not have you join our pathetic club. It is clear to our trustees that your school poses a threat, having too much upside and must therefore be removed from taking coveted playoff spots from our also-ran programs. We simply cannot risk having your school earn more money and gain further prestige while we whither away. We appreciate you rubbing in our faces how bad of a year our football and basketball programs had, and we hope you will take pity on us when our teams meet yours.

Without Wax,
The Scaredy Cats in charge of the ACC and Big12
 

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