What Will It Take For You to Want PP Back?

[UConnDan97]

In all seriousness though, I disagree with the people who believe that he is still in jeopardy with a 7-5 record. A 7-5 record likely means that he has a 4-4 record or better in conference AND he beat at least one of Maryland or Michigan. Added to that would be the fact that it would come with a bowl game, more excitement in the program, continued positive recruiting, and perhaps....PERHAPS....he may have even won three in a row during the season for once...

 

[ZackB05]

7 wins in 2013 buys him another year. Needs at least 9 in 2014 or I think he should be gone.

 

[Fishy]

If we go 7-5 and the offense is still a tire fire, he should lose his job.

That's just treading water.

 

[zls44]

15-0.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

I believe the retention or dismissal of PP will have less to do with his record this year and everything to do with how serious SH and WM are about moving us to the next level (B1G). If they are serious, limping into a Bowl game still provides a rationale for letting him go. If they're happy with the AAC, improving his record but missing a bowl game can keep him employed.

Exactly! If I'm correct, this is his last year. How many years would he be signed for? WM didn't hire him. SH was involved only as a peripheral player. Given that major college football coaches are now considered the "most important people on campus" (SI) and given the importance of a perceptual over-haul for UCONN football, I don't think a National Championship buys PP much more than an "emeritus."

 

[Alum86]

His best days were with WesConn in the early '80s. He has been a disaster. He goes after this year.

 

[weyuo]

His best days were with WesConn in the early '80s. He has been a disaster. He goes after this year.

The guy can recruit. He's got connections in the NFL and knows what it takes to make it in the NFL and for guys like Sio & Trevardo & Blidhi that's gold. His forte` is defense and smooth talking high school coaches and parents so if he can bring in a offensive guru to run that side of things maybe this isn't as much a disaster as a changing of the guard. Keep in mind Jim Calhoun and Geno Auriemma didn't just show up on the scene and immediately start pumping out national championships. It took JC almost 15 years for his first and Geno almost a decade. And to those that claim Edsall handed him some BCS bowl caliber team your just plain wrong. Edsall blew out of here after winning a 3 way tie with an 8-4 regular season record, left no experienced quarterback or half back and no warning that he was even thinking of leaving so the next guy in had about 2 1/2 weeks to secure a recruiting class before signing day not to mention put a staff together.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

The guy can recruit.

In what universe?

ESPN has our incoming class ranked #72. We don't need a caretaker coach or one whose incremental progress is measured in millimeters at best. To get out of the AAC we need a game changer. Based on 2013, 7 L's is looking like a high water mark for this guy.

 

[husky91]

I agree, guy is awful in all aspects. We heard about his recruiting prowess and his 1st two classes are basically the worst ranked in BE and bottom 3-5 of all BCS programs.

7-5 will get him his last year on contract, anything short and he'll be gone. He also benefits from having an incapable AD watching over him.

In what universe?

ESPN has our incoming class ranked #72. We don't need a caretaker coach or one whose incremental progress is measured in millimeters at best. To get out of the AAC we need a game changer. Based on 2013, 7 L's is looking like a high water mark for this guy.

 

[J187Money]

I agree, guy is awful in all aspects. We heard about his recruiting prowess and his 1st two classes are basically the worst ranked in BE and bottom 3-5 of all BCS programs.

7-5 will get him his last year on contract, anything short and he'll be gone. He also benefits from having an incapable AD watching over him.

Mostly I want him gone because even if be has a great year he is a caretaker. I want a program builder.

 

[UC990411]

Mostly I want him gone because even if be has a great year he is a caretaker. I want a program builder.

We had a program builder but let him go, why go backwards?

 

[metsfan2323]

We had a program builder but let him go, why go backwards?

We didn't let Randy go, he escaped like a thief in the night and it was pretty clear for a number of years that he was itching to leave, he has since trashed CT football when he stated there are more D1 prospects in one high school in Maryland then there are in the entire state of CT (bullshit). Personally I'm still glad he's gone, if nothing else our QB recruiting has significantly improved and that will hopefully pay off very soon. BTW Randy the Great is 0 -2 lifetime vs P.

 

[metsfan2323]

I agree, guy is awful in all aspects. We heard about his recruiting prowess and his 1st two classes are basically the worst ranked in BE and bottom 3-5 of all BCS programs.

You are full of crap. The 2013 recruiting class on paper is the best class we have had and P pulled that off with the conference falling apart.

 

[pj]

You are full of crap. The 2013 recruiting class on paper is the best class we have had and P pulled that off with the conference falling apart.

Several of the best athletes in the class of 2013 are going to prep / greyshirt for lack of scholarship space. If they all arrive then it will indeed be a great class. Until then, "on paper" are the key words -- "on verbal commitment" might be even more accurate.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

The 2013 recruiting class on paper is the best class we have had ...

Out of curiosity, where do you place the best "on paper" recruiting class bullet point in your pitch on the state of UConn football? A problem is better recruits combined with declining on-field performance make the program look even sorrier.

 

[metsfan2323]

A problem is better recruits combined with declining on-field performance make the program look even sorrier.

Your point is garbage because P's first two recruiting classes haven't seen the field yet. Were you expecting Lagow to contribute last year?

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Several of the best athletes in the class of 2013 are going to prep / greyshirt for lack of scholarship space. If they all arrive then it will indeed be a great class. Until then, "on paper" are the key words -- "on verbal commitment" might be even more accurate.

If they are that "great" why didn't they enroll elsewhere? If we were the best offer they had and they were willing to postpone their admittance that doesn't equate with "greatness" in my mind. "Great-for-us" and "great-without-qualification" are two different things.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Your point is garbage because P's first two recruiting classes haven't seen the field yet. Were you expecting Lagow to contribute last year?

The level of your expectations has dream conference invitation written all over it.

 

[metsfan2323]

If they are that "great" why didn't they enroll elsewhere? If we were the best offer they had and they were willing to postpone their admittance that doesn't equate with "greatness" in my mind. "Great-for-us" and "great-without-qualification" are two different things.

Fuch's had an offer from Rutgers and Florida. Maybe you should get some facts before you post.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Your point is garbage because P's first two recruiting classes haven't seen the field yet. Were you expecting Lagow to contribute last year?

When Warde goes out talking up UConn football, when does he get to "on paper" recruiting?

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Fuch's had an offer from Syracuse. Maybe you should get some facts before you post.

And what am I to conclude from a sample size of one?

 

[J187Money]

We had a program builder but let him go, why go backwards?

Not my point. Of course I would like Nick Saban. But let's be realistic. I'd like someone young and aggressive and energetic that doesn't have one foot out the door the minute he shows up.

 

[pj]

Based on http://connecticut.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/Commits rankings, here's who may get pushed back to 2014:

Chris Britton, LB, 88
Jordan Fuchs, TE, 83
Jalan Branford, DB, 78 but talented http://247sports.com/Player/Jalan-Branford-28959
Jamar Summers, WR/DB, 78

Of those, I consider Britton, Fuchs, and Branford well above the average quality of UConn recruits. Summers probably below average.

Then we have 2012 recruits who got pushed back to JUCO and 2014: Jason Sylva who has emerged as one of the top JUCO linebackers in the country (has reaffirmed his commitment to UConn for 2014), Rennick Bryan, and Neally Cunningham.

 

[husky91]

Umm, not quite. Awful rankings wise. Bottom and avg ranking very low. It's by no means an upgrade over Randy and we've seen his product on the field.

I can't fathom anyone likes this hire or guy. He's so awful, I don't know where to start.

You are full of crap. The 2013 recruiting class on paper is the best class we have had and P pulled that off with the conference falling apart.

 

[Adios]

Has anyone bee paying attention to what Warde's been doing with UConn hockey to make his first "real" hire rather than just whining blindly?

Fire PP.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Based on http://connecticut.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/Commits rankings, here's who may get pushed back to 2014:

Chris Britton, LB, 88
Jordan Fuchs, TE, 83
Jalan Branford, DB, 78 but talented http://247sports.com/Player/Jalan-Branford-28959
Jamar Summers, WR/DB, 78

Of those, I consider Britton, Fuchs, and Branford well above the average quality of UConn recruits. Summers probably below average.

Then we have 2012 recruits who got pushed back to JUCO and 2014: Jason Sylva who has emerged as one of the top JUCO linebackers in the country (has reaffirmed his commitment to UConn for 2014), Rennick Bryan, and Neally Cunningham.

I honestly don't want to squabble about the quality, or lack thereof, of P's recruits. At this point I'm interested in on field results. Period. Otherwise we'll be sipping the bitter irony of trying to upgrade one (very important) program and ending up destroying the entire athletic department. As of right this moment, we're in that eddy that forms in the toilet when the handle is pressed.

5-7 and 5-7. That was our performance on the field when re-alignment was reaching plasma temperatures. If there was any doubt as to whether or not we should be passed over before Hathaway's final brain fart arrived, Pasqualoni's pathetic performance in a pathetic (but looking mighty good right about now) conference removed it.

The re-alignment model has shifted. It is no longer a sellers' market (us being among the sellers). They are no longer (if they indeed ever were) looking for the "best available" additions. It's a buyers' market now and we can't sell what we don't got.

 

[JaYnYcE]

A bid to the B1G on the basis that Coach P has to return as the HC.


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[FfldCntyFan]

Your point is garbage because P's first two recruiting classes haven't seen the field yet. Were you expecting Lagow to contribute last year?

We've had true frosh, RS frosh and true sophs get considerble PT during the days of the inferior talent the RE brought in. Why haven't any of P's superior recruits seen the field?

 

[huskymedic]

Based on http://connecticut.247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/Commits rankings, here's who may get pushed back to 2014:

Chris Britton, LB, 88
Jordan Fuchs, TE, 83
Jalan Branford, DB, 78 but talented http://247sports.com/Player/Jalan-Branford-28959
Jamar Summers, WR/DB, 78

Of those, I consider Britton, Fuchs, and Branford well above the average quality of UConn recruits. Summers probably below average.

Then we have 2012 recruits who got pushed back to JUCO and 2014: Jason Sylva who has emerged as one of the top JUCO linebackers in the country (has reaffirmed his commitment to UConn for 2014), Rennick Bryan, and Neally Cunningham.

I really think Britton is a 2013 PJ.

 

[Marty Jackson]

The case against PP is self evident. Took a program on the rise coming off a BCS game and turned in consecutive 5-7 seasons while discarding the indentity of a tough smashmouth football team in favor of a system that promises a more NFL style techniques in an effort to entice recruits to come to a cold-weather school snubbed by the CFB establishment.

Everyone gave him a pass for having to play a walk-on QB and to some extent a JUCO transfer the second, but the boneheaded game management, playcalling, and inability of the team to run the most basic plays has him where he is.

To return he simply has to prove everyone wrong, this year. The offense must show, using the same players as last year, that they can sustain drives and score points. The defense must show, losing 4 starters to the NFL, that it can maintain through the promised upgrade in recruiting PP was supposed to deliver. And of course, win a few games.

If he wins 8, whether its 8 regular season games or 7 games plus a bowl win over a name opponent, he'll likely be back. 7 wins will be tough call for WM, but the fans won't want him back at all if the team doesn't pass the above eyeball test.

If we can't run the ball against Towson, WM should fire him on the spot. Maybe at halftime. (I'm kidding about that, but not as much as you might think.)

took a program on the rise? More like peaked.
He had no ability to recruit his first year and was left with Johnny Mac for his QB. Nothing against the kid, but he wasn't a legit starter for s BCS caliber program.