What is your take on Hurley and the Refs?

[Umami Zen]

In Maui- What opposing coaches are doing vs Dan and the refs is "Good Cop-Bad Cop".. Penny and Tad were pretty laid back with calls-Weren't in the ref's faces-Didn't call them names. Are you going to let him say that to you? Not complicated. Who is going to get the "judgment calls-50/50 calls"? Especially with non-BE refs.

No one can complain about Dan's UConn resume/success. But if this is the way he's gonna roll-His players will occasionally be put in tough situations as they have been in Maui. BTW-Sports/BB aren't always fair-Calls are missed and blown by refs all the time. Why they have the TV monitor courtside. They're not perfect. Not giving them a pass-Just reality.

Let's turn the page and start playing UConn BB.

 

[Deepster]

As a former high school coach play the game like its 7 on 5 and let your players take care of the rest. If the players take care of business you get the W.

Glad to know a two time national champ has this kind of resource to lean on.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Part of my problem is that many times the fouls occurred off camera and there were few replays. of those that were replayed, the two cylinder calls both against us were not consistent and the McNeeley over the back was a bad call and when he was hacked was missed. They didnt go to the monitor enough in these two games. We lost two games by 3 points with a 30 free throw disparity.

 

[DMIL]

Given the make up of this years team, Hurley's approach needs to change. This squad does not have the margin to overcome the vendetta from the referee fraternity against Coach Dan Hurley. Once he puts together an elite team full of Alpha Dogs, I think he will be able to flex at that time.

His formula incorporating Euro ball methodology and related data analytics has worked for the last 2 Championship teams but will not be effective based on how this team is currently constructed. Against physical, athletic, talented teams with size at key positions with good coaching staffs we will be at a disadvantage despite having positional advantages based purely on talent. The lack of experience at key positions is impacting the results as well. There is a lot to fix here. Historically, it has taken Hurley too long to make adjustments and this is something that he has gotten better at. I'm hopeful Hurley and staff will figure this out. However, there should be some recognition that we have been exposed and so this will be uncomfortable for a while until they figure this thing out. This is where not having that go to guy on the squad that can go off and create his own shot at any time hurts you. All of that fancy ball movement and fancy sets means nothing against long, physical athletic teams that can guard the 3 point line. Defensively, this team is a shell of its former self and if we are being honest we know that the thought going into this season was that we would trade defense for this complex Euro-ball offense that has been so effective for the last 2 Championship teams. The pieces are too different.

I think going forward, they should think about playing their most athletic line up with a couple of shooters. Diarra, Reed, Karaban, Ball and Jayden Ross or J Stew with Ahmad Nowell, Stew or Ross, McNeeley, Samson and Mahaney coming off of the bench. Mahaney should is not ready to play the point for us and should be used in off ball situations for precision scoring opportunities.

We also have to rediscover our inside and mid-range game. The team has become overly reliant on the 3 ball and this only works with inferior, less talented, smaller and less physical teams. I think the quickest thing that the team can sure up is their defensive discipline. The offensive tweaks and related chemistry will take more time.

 

[Woof 101]

He is a great coach who has zero self control and if you sit close enough to the bench you know he deserves every single tech he gets and more.

You don't have to sit close to the bench, you can read lips and spittle on TV. How he was not tossed is beyond me.

He has to know better. Period.
"I think it was the calls," he said, adding, "I would expect to come to play in an event, and I don't know too many back-to-back national championship teams that get that type of a whistle."

Someone making 8.33 million dollars a year should understand what the team did last year or the year before now means nothing with a complete different team. Basically stating we should be favored for past success.
Just me but the constant basketball capital of the world and three peat mantra is nothing but fodder for opponents. As an amateur coach I sought some advice from a high school basketball coach that had over 500 wins. His first was don't change your personalty, I am much like Dan. He did go on to say if you have to interact with officials do so with respect.

Dan said himself after a loosing streak and onto a winning streak for a NC when asked, what did you do to turn the team around? His reply was basically, I stopped getting on the officials. Hope he can do so again tonight to bring home a W and gain some respect among the officiating community.

 

[Monte]

He should make up his mind: Does he want to coach the refs, OR, the players!

 

[JellyBean]

We all love and appreciate Coach, but his antics are so over the top. If he was losing and pulling stunts like what he does, on a nightly basis, he would have been fired already. Winning allows certain behaviors to be okay and it sends a bad message.

 

[Revrat]

I mean, honestly, there is only one take. Is his treatment of the refs working? Im pretty sure the answer is no. and if the current national media is any indication it's only going to get worse. Hopefully, he can read the room and take a step back and maybe some conciliatory actions because he has a target on his back. It wouldn't surprise me , if he keeps it up, he gets tossed in a game quite quickly. You can read his lips. Yelling "you don't belong here" to refs faces is just not going to cut it. And I'm sure he has been yelling alot worse. The attitude that these crappy refs deserve it might sound fine but it's not going to get any results because nobody is on his side on this.

 

[Deepster]

I mean, honestly, there is only one take. Is his treatment of the refs working? Im pretty sure the answer is no. and if the current national media is any indication it's only going to get worse. Hopefully, he can read the room and take a step back and maybe some conciliatory actions because he has a target on his back. It wouldn't surprise me , if he keeps it up, he gets tossed in a game quite quickly. You can read his lips. Yelling "you don't belong here" to refs faces is just not going to cut it. And I'm sure he has been yelling alot worse. The attitude that these crappy refs deserve it might sound fine but it's not going to get any results because nobody is on his side on this.

You assume his end goal is the reaction from the refs. Maybe his end goal is reacting to things naturally and cultivating that (and everything else) into a title winning culture.

 

[Revrat]

You assume his end goal is the reaction from the refs. Maybe his end goal is reacting to things naturally and cultivating that (and everything else) into a title winning culture.

Honestly WTF does that actually mean? Especially when it's costing us games. It's the antithesis of winning culture and a pure example of the whining culture, which is exactly how it's being portrayed all over the media.

Oh and I'll add on a bit because i havent seen anything on this but if you look at the kids body language and facial expressions? They are buckling under the pressure in a big way. They look shell-shocked under the weight of it all.

 

[Sphinx]

You need other choices
O - It enrages the refs so much that they start making phantom calls such as player's face-fouled-guard and OTB on clean rebound, so it actually hurts the team

Yes, especially when the game's on the line. I would submit that 50% of games that go down to the wire are decided by the refs. For UConn, in the Hurley era, it's been closer to 100%. So far this year, it's the refs 2, UConn 0. It's not that Hurley can't win a close game. It's that Hurley can't win a close call. The last time UConn won a close game on a ref's call was against Villanova a few years back, and Hurley was sitting in the locker room. It is what it is.

 

[JMick]

I mean, honestly, there is only one take. Is his treatment of the refs working? Im pretty sure the answer is no. and if the current national media is any indication it's only going to get worse. Hopefully, he can read the room and take a step back and maybe some conciliatory actions because he has a target on his back. It wouldn't surprise me , if he keeps it up, he gets tossed in a game quite quickly. You can read his lips. Yelling "you don't belong here" to refs faces is just not going to cut it. And I'm sure he has been yelling alot worse. The attitude that these crappy refs deserve it might sound fine but it's not going to get any results because nobody is on his side on this.

Or the media could focus on the issue of poorer and poorer officiating year after year. It's getting really bad and it's not just Hurley complaining about it.

 

[Deepster]

Honestly WTF does that actually mean? Especially when it's costing us games. It's the antithesis of winning culture and a pure example of the whining culture, which is exactly how it's being portrayed all over the media.

Oh and I'll add on a bit because i havent seen anything on this but if you look at the kids body language and facial expressions? They are buckling under the pressure in a big way. They look shell-shocked under the weight of it all.

It's pretty simple. Maybe Hurley is more concerned with how his players learn what's important to him over what a ref thinks.

Judging by the last 2 years full of players who refused to lose and superimposed their will on their opponent? That works over winning "a game" against some also-ran in November.

 

[Demo Square]

Hey Guys!

We've seen Danny type behavior before in college hoops coaches. But we've also seen this lack of control of personal behavior escalate into more serious sociopathic outcomes. I hope Hurley can learn to control his over-the-top behavior. He's a great coach. But he's gotta represent CT better.

One name: Bobby Knight

They always let the ever-snarling Knight-mare off the hook because he was winning. Same as we are starting to see with Hurley on the sidelines. EVERY Play, he loses it! But who is Danny accountable to?

Who's gonna shut down his disrespectful behavior to refs & his players in practice & the state of Connecticut? Who's gonna keep Hurley from escalating into a "choking incident" like Knight did with his player Reed? Or retire in shame with a tarnished reputation like Bobby did? Indiana got a black eye with that guy on the bench at IU.

Gotta keep Hurley on a short leash from now on with tangible "no pay" consequences. Dock his pay for T's & repeating incidents.

And what does it say to the parents of recruits? Do you want your son to play for a sociopath like Hurley, (or that other maniac-turned-saint former UConn coach, Jim Calhoun?)

I played hoops a long time ago & played through 15 years in European pro leagues. Played for many WWII era characters & overly emotional personalities who coached with fear, sadism, threats, shaming, head games, violence & way too much control over players' lives & futures. But I would never have chosen to play for the nutbag UConn coaches that many of you deify - because they won? Sheesh!

If Calhoun put his hands on me as he did on so many Huskies in his doghouse, I would've knocked his block off & blown off the scholarship to Storrs! There are other ways to coach & motivate & many coaches who know & practice that.

Danny Hurley needs to use Maui as his wakeup call. Seeing a dire need for self control in a 51 year old man/child -in a child's game - is a pitiful thing to see. Embarrassing! It's just a basketball game, Danny! Sit down for a change & enjoy the game, like a Dean Smith, John Wooden, etc. did. Show some class representing this classy State of Connecticut! Make the change for real, Hurley.

Father Demo

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Sociopath?

Talk about an overreaction.

 

[Mr. French]

If you think Pearl was content with the game, let me tell you ... he was not. Pearl was Dan Hurley-level furious with the officials in a 15-point game with 1:22 remaining. After Pearl's press conference, he pulled aside J.D. Collins, the former director of NCAA officiating who oversees the officials each year in Maui, to share his concerns in a private conversation just outside the media work room.

Interesting. And his team won. So maybe the refs actually do stink in Maui. Does anyone know which crew reffed the Auburn game?

Maui Invitational takeaways: UConn reeling, Tyrese Hunter puts Memphis in finals and Auburn's case for No. 1

Johni Broome and Tyrese Hunter had huge games Tuesday to put their teams into Wednesday's Maui Invitational championship

www.cbssports.com

There’s no “If” regardless of whether Hurley needs to cool it. The refs stink. Driscoll usually stinks.

 

[JMick]

Hey Guys!

We've seen Danny type behavior before in college hoops coaches. But we've also seen this lack of control of personal behavior escalate into more serious sociopathic outcomes. I hope Hurley can learn to control his over-the-top behavior. He's a great coach. But he's gotta represent CT better.

One name: Bobby Knight

They always let the ever-snarling Knight-mare off the hook because he was winning. Same as we are starting to see with Hurley on the sidelines. EVERY Play, he loses it! But who is Danny accountable to?

Who's gonna shut down his disrespectful behavior to refs & his players in practice & the state of Connecticut? Who's gonna keep Hurley from escalating into a "choking incident" like Knight did with his player Reed? Or retire in shame with a tarnished reputation like Bobby did? Indiana got a black eye with that guy on the bench at IU.

Gotta keep Hurley on a short leash from now on with tangible "no pay" consequences. Dock his pay for T's & repeating incidents.

And what does it say to the parents of recruits? Do you want your son to play for a sociopath like Hurley, (or that other maniac-turned-saint former UConn coach, Jim Calhoun?)

I played hoops a long time ago & played through 15 years in European pro leagues. Played for many WWII era characters & overly emotional personalities who coached with fear, sadism, threats, shaming, head games, violence & way too much control over players' lives & futures. But I would never have chosen to play for the nutbag UConn coaches that many of you deify - because they won? Sheesh!

If Calhoun put his hands on me as he did on so many Huskies in his doghouse, I would've knocked his block off & blown off the scholarship to Storrs! There are other ways to coach & motivate & many coaches who know & practice that.

Danny Hurley needs to use Maui as his wakeup call. Seeing a dire need for self control in a 51 year old man/child -in a child's game - is a pitiful thing to see. Embarrassing! It's just a basketball game, Danny! Sit down for a change & enjoy the game, like a Dean Smith, John Wooden, etc. did. Show some class representing this classy State of Connecticut! Make the change for real, Hurley.

Father Demo

This is the dumbest post I've read in the history of the boneyard and I've read a lot of really dumb posts

 

[uconngb]

Going to war and screwing up are 2 different issues
He hurt this team yesterday
He was "early years at UConn Hurley" on steroids - not good at all
He won 2 NCs but that doesn't give him carte blanche with everything he does.
The officiating was horrible at best, but it was that way from the onset - great coaches work around it, they don't escalate the tension. (It took me about 5 years of my nearly 30 years of coaching to realize this myself)
Perhaps the events of the overtime yesterday will sink in with DH. Very good coach but he is still not a very good bench coach.

I bet not Everyone is cool with it when the team is winning..................................................

Today is a new/different day.

Can’t disagree with any of this. And I hate agreeing with you