What if Jurich used bribes to get ACC votes?

[bennyMr]

UofL had a 5-4 advantage over UConn in football in the BE. They won the conference twice and went to 2 BCS games. We won the conference twice and went to 1 BCS game (WVU beat us on tiebreakers the other year).

It was widely known UofL had cheated to get their football to that point.

UConn had more players drafted and more players in the NFL.

And we won multiple NC in BB - UofL didn't win until after they accepted a bid to the ACC.

Hartford/NH is the #30 TV market. Louisville is #50

UConn is the #18 Public School & Louisville is a glorified community college.

Explain to me again why UofL was such a no brainer????

(I mean outside the dead hooker in the college presidents room - thank God it was one of Dirty Ricky's hookers or Jurich wouldn't been able to help)

U of L was not a "no brainer" but a suitable school that was better than Cinci, Memphis, or any of the other conference USA school that had an eye for the ACC.

U of L was the sole benefactor from the UCONN exclusion that was almost 100% geographical based on its relationship, or lack there of, with BC. UCONN had, and still has, a lot of appeal to any P5 conference. But if you look back at what happen to miss out on that specific opportunity to join the ACC, it had more to do with political manipulation, the bad break-up of the original Big East 10 years earlier, and UCONN admins arrogance.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

UofL had a 5-4 advantage over UConn in football in the BE. They won the conference twice and went to 2 BCS games. We won the conference twice and went to 1 BCS game (WVU beat us on tiebreakers the other year).

It was widely known UofL had cheated to get their football to that point.

UConn had more players drafted and more players in the NFL.

And we won multiple NC in BB - UofL didn't win until after they accepted a bid to the ACC.

Hartford/NH is the #30 TV market. Louisville is #50

UConn is the #18 Public School & Louisville is a glorified community college.

Explain to me again why UofL was such a no brainer????

(I mean outside the dead hooker in the college presidents room - thank God it was one of Dirty Ricky's hookers or Jurich wouldn't been able to help)

All true, and yet you drive around Louisville and see the stadium from the highway, Cardinal logos on the railroad overpass, and proclamations that "you're in ACC country." Ever since the data sample you provided, Louisville football & basketball profiles have looked better. Maybe you're right that it was all about the cheating. We'll see.

 

[UConnNick]

UofL had a 5-4 advantage over UConn in football in the BE. They won the conference twice and went to 2 BCS games. We won the conference twice and went to 1 BCS game (WVU beat us on tiebreakers the other year).

It was widely known UofL had cheated to get their football to that point.

UConn had more players drafted and more players in the NFL.

And we won multiple NC in BB - UofL didn't win until after they accepted a bid to the ACC.

Hartford/NH is the #30 TV market. Louisville is #50

UConn is the #18 Public School & Louisville is a glorified community college.

Explain to me again why UofL was such a no brainer????

(I mean outside the dead hooker in the college presidents room - thank God it was one of Dirty Ricky's hookers or Jurich wouldn't been able to help)

I'm not arguing with most of your points, but Louisville did win two NCAA titles in BB (1980 and 1986) before joining the ACC. It's certainly looking like they will now lose their appeal and the 2013 title will remain permanently vacated, giving us a 4-2 lead over them, FWIW.

 

[exray2345]

Slightly off topic but could the ACC kick Louisville out of the conference as a result of the Pitino scandal? I would assume FBI will combine thru all finances of the Louisville athletic dept.from last 15/20 yrs

 

[ctchamps]

Slightly off topic but could the ACC kick Louisville out of the conference as a result of the Pitino scandal? I would assume FBI will combine thru all finances of the Louisville athletic dept.from last 15/20 yrs

Prevailing opinion is no. The hopeful opinion is yes and UConn replaces. My opinion is whatever happens I prefer UConn joining the B!G.

 

[Travelman6]

Louisville is a glorified community college.

Explain to me again why UofL was such a no brainer????

I don't get this sentiment. I dislike Lville as a whole, but this is wrong. They are not a "bad" school. They are just average. The other 14 ACC schools are top 80 in the U.S. News & World Report national university rankings. Lville is 165 overall and 87 for public schools. With a population of 350 million in the usa and so many UNIs, neither ranking is "horrible". It is false to use hyperbole to describe them as anything less than an average institution so can we move on to actual reasons why they suck? Like cheating and all the scandals over the past few years?

For the record, I absolutely would not be shocked if there was some shady business going down in the lead up to the invite to the acc. I have a hunch, but it is just that.

 

[BUConn10]

Slightly off topic but could the ACC kick Louisville out of the conference as a result of the Pitino scandal? I would assume FBI will combine thru all finances of the Louisville athletic dept.from last 15/20 yrs

In my opinion I don't really see how kicking a team out of a conference is possible. There is so much money and legal paperwork in effect that it seems like a nightmare. Also if Penn State and Baylor are still playing P5 athletics, then this scandal has barely even scratched the surface of those controversies.

 

[pj]

Either that or football over basketball.

I'm betting football cheats too.

 

[CL82]

We get it. You are more level headed than every single member of this community, you have made that clear repeatedly over your several years here.

Yes, I am.

Perhaps if you wear a hat no one will notice?

 

[CL82]

Taking the risk of bribing an assistant basketball coach is one thing. Taking a risk of bribing a University President -- or in some cases members of Boards of Trustees -- is something else entirely.

Conspiracy Kitty says: "Or is it?"

 

[gtcam]

UofL had a 5-4 advantage over UConn in football in the BE. They won the conference twice and went to 2 BCS games. We won the conference twice and went to 1 BCS game (WVU beat us on tiebreakers the other year).

It was widely known UofL had cheated to get their football to that point.

UConn had more players drafted and more players in the NFL.

And we won multiple NC in BB - UofL didn't win until after they accepted a bid to the ACC.

Hartford/NH is the #30 TV market. Louisville is #50

UConn is the #18 Public School & Louisville is a glorified community college.

Explain to me again why UofL was such a no brainer????

(I mean outside the dead hooker in the college presidents room - thank God it was one of Dirty Ricky's hookers or Jurich wouldn't been able to help)

It didn't take a bribe to get L'ville in, they were next in line after UConn.
UConn was nixed by BC, Pitt, FSU, Miami and two other schools (rumors say Cuse and Wake Forest) so L'ville got the call
If it weren't UConn or L'ville it would most likely have been Cinci but to me that's a further stretch.
Blumenthal PO'd BC who got others to gang up on UConn that is one concrete reason - also some like Pitt didn't want to recruit vs UConn.

However, based on the current events - the thought of a L'ville bribe seems to have a touch of merit but after reading years of compilations on why UConn was scorned - I have doubts - it's more likely that BC or Pitt did the bribing.

 

[Travelman6]

It didn't take a bribe to get L'ville in, they were next in line after UConn.
UConn was nixed by BC, Pitt, FSU, Miami and two other schools (rumors say Cuse and Wake Forest) so L'ville got the call
If it weren't UConn or L'ville it would most likely have been Cinci but to me that's a further stretch.
Blumenthal PO'd BC who got others to gang up on UConn that is one concrete reason - also some like Pitt didn't want to recruit vs UConn.

However, based on the current events - the thought of a L'ville bribe seems to have a touch of merit but after reading years of compilations on why UConn was scorned - I have doubts - it's more likely that BC or Pitt did the bribing.

I have only ever heard of BCs involvement and maybe FSU.

I have heard differently about the cuse, that they actually supported Uconn getting in. It would make sense since they are longstanding rivals who actually were about 50/50 in any given match up as opposed to Uconn BC which was more like 90 or 95 to 5, maybe 10 if they are lucky. BC was sick of getting slammed all the time vs Uconn so of course they did not want the Huskies, plus they want an easier time recruiting in upper NE.

 

[scoobydoo]

it's more likely that BC or Pitt did the bribing.

What did BCU offer?

To lose every conference game if they brought in UofL?

 

[StoneyDawg]

It didn't take a bribe to get L'ville in, they were next in line after UConn.
UConn was nixed by BC, Pitt, FSU, Miami and two other schools (rumors say Cuse and Wake Forest) so L'ville got the call
If it weren't UConn or L'ville it would most likely have been Cinci but to me that's a further stretch.
Blumenthal PO'd BC who got others to gang up on UConn that is one concrete reason - also some like Pitt didn't want to recruit vs UConn.

However, based on the current events - the thought of a L'ville bribe seems to have a touch of merit but after reading years of compilations on why UConn was scorned - I have doubts - it's more likely that BC or Pitt did the bribing.

You are right. Blumenthal is the reason UConn is not in the ACC. He should take more heat for his dumb lawsuit that pissed everyone off.

 

[CL82]

You are right. Blumenthal is the reason UConn is not in the ACC. He should take more heat for his dumb lawsuit that pissed everyone off.

Sigh, no he's not. Here this link explains it in detail.