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What elite WCBB player would ever want to play for Coach P?

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meyers7 said:
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Poor Saniya...


oh, wait. This is about Duke, isn't it?


NVMD...
 
Referring to Johnson as having "a lack of IQ" ? Are you kidding me ? In a public statement? ...if I were a trustee at Duke and read that, I would be pissed. The only dunce cap necessary is one for McCallie!!
 
jsloanjr said:
QUOTE OF THE NIGHT:
"I wish they could walk home." -- McCallie, on her displeasure with Duke's performance.
"Eighteeen of the worst turnovers I've ever seen," Duke coach Joanne P. McCallie said. "Terrible."
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How this any different than what PHS used to say?
 
What I have never understood about Coach P (while she has been coaching @ Duke anyhow) is her reluctance to make in game adjustments. Even Geno makes in game adjustments when things aren't going as planned or the players aren't able to appropriately execute something. You sub, change defenses, script a few things on a few consecutive possessions that you know you do well. She just seems so reluctant to try any of that. I have seen her teams take a few drubbings over the years and she just doesn't seem like she knows how to adapt in games. She seems more like she is dictating on the sideline not coaching.
 
Maybe the Duke Administration is listening and watching.............Tell me what player came to Duke under her coaching that became better? Why doesn't the press ask players about why your coach doesn't make adjustments during games?....Are you tired of hearing bad things from your coach?
 
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Would GG take the reins again if offered?

Thing is - I wouldn't expect an offer to be made. I get the feeling that Duke
doesn't care enough about Women's Hoops to want to get rid of a coach who
fields a ranked team every year, even though it doesn't seem that she's doing
as well as she should with the talent she recruits.
 
jsloanjr said:
Maybe the Duke Administration is listening and watching...Tell me what player came to Duke under her coaching that became better? Why doesn't the press ask players about why your coach doesn't make adjustments during games?....Are you tired of hearing bad things from your coach?
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Tricia Liston improved dramatically.
 
Compared to what?..........Trish was a self starter and she hussled her butt to make herself a very good player..........Coach P had very little input..........Has Elizabeth Williams improved much since her freshemen year?..........There are not many players who have gone onto the next level because they played for Coach P..........
 
She has always rubbed me the wrong way. Going back to her Michigan State days, in the 2005 tournament, when she beat Stanford to go onto the Final Four, there was no credit given to the Cardinal at all. Not one word. It was all about how great her team is. It is understandable, of course. You'd expect that from the winning coach. You also expect some kind of mention about how well the other team played. There was little class shown. From that point on, while her team did end up beating Tennessee, I was glad they lost to Baylor.
 
Charlie Creme's latest Bracketology has #14 Maine playing #3 Duke in Raleigh. That would be outstanding! Maine may not have the talent that Duke has, but Barron would dominate P when it comes to coaching. A loss to Maine would probably send P back to the looney bin.
 
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mainejeff said:
Charlie Creme's latest Bracketology has #14 Maine playing #3 Duke in Raleigh. That would be outstanding! Maine may not have the talent that Duke has, but Barron would dominate P when it comes to coaching. A loss to Maine would probably send P back to the looney bin.
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Hey, MaineJeff! Welcome! I've been following the Bear's revival and it's been great to see. Any sign of Mr. King, yet? :-)
 
ThisJustIn said:
Hey, MaineJeff! Welcome! I've been following the Bear's revival and it's been great to see. Any sign of Mr. King, yet? :)
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Not yet....but you never know. Black Bear fans are very excited that they may have the opportunity to see Maine play for a conference championship on their home floor if they make it to that point. Could see 5K at the Cross Insurance Center for that one.
 
mainejeff said:
Charlie Creme's latest Bracketology has #14 Maine playing #3 Duke in Raleigh. That would be outstanding! Maine may not have the talent that Duke has, but Barron would dominate P when it comes to coaching. A loss to Maine would probably send P back to the looney bin.
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MaineJeff - welcome and glad to see the Black Bears are back in the hunt! It would be awesome to see them play for the conference championship. I have some friends in Maine that would love to be there for that game!
Heck, I'd think about driving up from CT to see it myself.
 
JFC613 said:
JPM is getting blasted for the post game comments. Go on TheDevilsDen and read the postings. Many of our comments above are exactly what the Blue Devil fans are saying about her; not pleased with her at all. Can't see how she can survive with the way these fans feel about her style? It truly makes you appreciate what we have with our coaching staff and program.
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What's the link?
 
Here's a comment, from deep down in that Devils Den "Under the Bus" thread, that I hadn't heard:

"...after tough losses, the coach sometimes forbids players to communicate with their families as punishment. After losing to UConn, players could not see family members after the game who had travelled to attend the game."
 
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triaddukefan said:
Tricia Liston improved dramatically.
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Triad I disagree that Liston improved. I think she got comfortable as what she came in as and left the same. In the tournament loss she committed 3 offensive fould trying to be a secondardy ball handler after Jones got hurt. I see Greenwell having the same struggles this year and most significant Stevens who came in a very good ball handler has regressed because she is being used as an outlet receiver of the ball as opposed to being used to advanced the ball as a dribbler.
 
j66kicker said:
Here's a comment, from deep down in that Devils Den "Under the Bus" thread, that I hadn't heard:

"...after tough losses, the coach sometimes forbids players to communicate with their families as punishment. After losing to UConn, players could not see family members after the game who had travelled to attend the game."
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Ok so maybe the foundation is starting to crack and support for coach P is eroding. On the same website is a discussion about Isabella Alarie daughter of Mark Alarie-former Duke Blue. Alarie was the subject of a Boneyard thread this summer. Geno and some other Boneyarders saw Isabella Alarie play at USJN this summer and liked what they saw. She verballed to Princeton in December.

Mark Alarie quietly hoped his alma mater, Duke, would get involved considering he took Bella to the school’s basketball camp every summer as she grew up.
“But we haven’t even gotten a letter,” he said, not hiding his disappointment after a recent National Cathedral game.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-isabella-alarie-grows-out-of-fathers-shadow/
 
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HuskyNan said:
Geno should teach a class "Sarcasm as a Motivational Technique".
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Agree with this assessment 100%. I can hear Geno now opening the first class.
"Now for you coaches from schools like Duke who may be waiting tables soon"....
 
CocoHusky said:
Ok so maybe the foundation is starting to crack and support for coach P is eroding. On the same website is a discussion about Isabella Alarie daughter of Mark Alarie-former Duke Blue. Alarie was the subject of a Boneyard thread this summer. Geno and some other Boneyarders saw Isabella Alarie play at USJN this summer and liked what they saw. She verballed to Princeton in December.

Mark Alarie quietly hoped his alma mater, Duke, would get involved considering he took Bella to the school’s basketball camp every summer as she grew up.
“But we haven’t even gotten a letter,” he said, not hiding his disappointment after a recent National Cathedral game.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-isabella-alarie-grows-out-of-fathers-shadow/
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Alarie is not a top 50/ or 100 player
 
John Glass said:
Alarie is not a top 50/ or 100 player
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Too early to be so definitive. ESPN for 2016 has only top 60 and the magical number to make top 60 is 91. Alarie has a 90 rating right now exactly the same rating as one of UCONN's last commit Kayla Irwin. It is possible that both move up with the next ESPN revision. Irwin by signing with UCONN will definitely move up. Likewise with Alarie if she had signed with Duke or UCONN. Princeton? I don't know probably stay the same.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Triad I disagree that Liston improved. I think she got comfortable as what she came in as and left the same. In the tournament loss she committed 3 offensive fould trying to be a secondardy ball handler after Jones got hurt..
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Completely inaccurate. Liston came in a shooter only and left a very well rounded player and the leading scorer (and she was not a MCDAA or as highly ranked as others). Most of this can be attributed to her tremendous weight loss.

And you are judging four years based on one game?
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
Completely inaccurate. Liston came in a shooter only and left a very well rounded player and the leading scorer (and she was not a MCDAA or as highly ranked as others). Most of this can be attributed to her tremendous weight loss.

And you are judging four years based on one game?
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Liston is one of my favorite recent players from Duke. She had a great senior year and the fact that she got drafted and made the Lynx team is a huge accomplishment compared to other more highly rated players in the same class.
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
Completely inaccurate. Liston came in a shooter only and left a very well rounded player and the leading scorer (and she was not a MCDAA or as highly ranked as others). Most of this can be attributed to her tremendous weight loss.

And you are judging four years based on one game?
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Tricia,
Improved her shooting while a duke from 47% as a Freshmen 52% as a senior however the increase was not steady since she shot only 45% as a Junior. The other numbers do not support her becoming a better all-around player. Her A/TO ratio went from near 1 as a Freshmen and Sophomore to .7 for her Junior and Senior years. Her rebounding rate (Total rebounds/ Total minutes played) stayed almost exactly the same from Freshmen through Senior year @ .17. She had 19 steals playing in only 384 minutes as a Freshman and collected 20 steals in 1098 minutes as a senior. If you throw out all the numbers and just use the eye test Tricia increased her shooting percentage (drastically??) from Junior to Senior year and became Duke’s leading scorer and one of the most reliable shooters in the NCAA. Better shooter? -absolutely. Better all-around player?-Debatable.
 
I am afraid that Angela will find out more about Coach P than she cares to know muy pronto.
 
CocoHusky said:
Tricia,
Improved her shooting while a duke from 47% as a Freshmen 52% as a senior however the increase was not steady since she shot only 45% as a Junior. The other numbers do not support her becoming a better all-around player. Her A/TO ratio went from near 1 as a Freshmen and Sophomore to .7 for her Junior and Senior years. Her rebounding rate (Total rebounds/ Total minutes played) stayed almost exactly the same from Freshmen through Senior year @ .17. She had 19 steals playing in only 384 minutes as a Freshman and collected 20 steals in 1098 minutes as a senior. If you throw out all the numbers and just use the eye test Tricia increased her shooting percentage (drastically??) from Junior to Senior year and became Duke’s leading scorer and one of the most reliable shooters in the NCAA. Better shooter? -absolutely. Better all-around player?-Debatable.
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This is why statistics cannot be the sole source of indicia of improvement. In her junior and senior years, she had to play point guard due to injuries. She isn't a point guard.

Also, statistics do not tell you that she went from being a secondary player to the primary focus of Duke's offense by her senior year.
 
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