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What Does Today's Texas - Tenn Game Say About a Future Texas - UConn Matchup?

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Watching today's SEC game between Texas and Tennessee, I was naturally curious to see if any conclusions could be drawn from it about how UConn might match up with Texas if that game should occur in the NCAA tournament. At a very high level, the fact that UConn blew out Tennessee, while Texas escaped with a 2-point win over the LV's, seems to suggest that UConn would be strongly favored over Texas in any future game. But of course, UConn's game against Tennessee was in Hartford, while Texas's game was in Knoxville, so from TN's perspective, we would be comparing a road game blowout loss to a narrow home loss. But given the huge difference in margin of victory, home-vs.-road doesn't seem like a sufficient explanation.

Moreover, there were other similarities between the two games. The most obvious is that both games were tied at halftime. In both games, TN's opponent won the first quarter, and TN won the second quarter by exactly the same margin. In both games, the first 5 minutes of the third quarter were played evenly. After that, UConn blew the game open, while Texas continued to maintain a small lead over TN until the end of the game -- TX's largest lead was 14 points compared to 32 points for UConn. And this was despite the fact that UConn was missing Blanca for its game against TN, while TN was at full strength from a roster standpoint. In today's game between TN and TX, it was Tennessee who was short a player -- Mia Pauldo did not play, while TX appeared to be at full strength.

There was another factor that was dissimilar. In today's game between Tennessee and Texas, the fouls were very unbalanced -- TN committed 25 fouls while TX had only 12 (rather surprising considering that TN was the home team -- it caused VolNation conspiracists to explode in agony!). In the TN - UConn game, the fouls were almost even: 11 committed by TN and 9 by UConn. UConn actually had 1 fewer free throw attempt than TN, although UConn made 1 more free throw (9-for-11 vs. 8-for-12 for TN). In the UConn game, neither the fouls nor the free throws were significant in determining the outcome, but that was not the case in the TX - TN game. In today's game, Texas took 23 free throws and made 17, while TN was only 5-of-11 from the line. That is an advantage of 12 points for TX at the free throw line, which is six times the margin of victory for TX. TX had one less made field goal in the game and 8 fewer 3-point makes, but still won because of the free throw disparity.

Against the TN defense, UConn shot 58% and 50% from distance. Against presumably the same defense, Texas shot 46% and 0% (0-for-6) from 3-point land, despite presumably benefitting from those 25 foul calls on TN.

At the individual performance level, Talaysia Cooper scored 29 points on 12-for-19 shooting (4-for-7 from 3) against TX, compared to 8 points against UConn. On the other hand, Zee Spearman had just 2 points on 1-for-7 shooting against TX, but scored 14 points on 7-for-13 shooting against UConn. Is it too much to infer from this that UConn's interior defense is weaker than TX's, but its perimeter defense is stronger? Whether or not those statistics prove it, I think that is probably the case.

I am well aware of the limits of "transitivity" when comparing sports teams. (For example, if similar logic were used to compare UConn to South Carolina, the fact that SC beat TN by 43 points compared to UConn's 30-point margin of victory might lead to the conclusion that SC is significantly better than UConn.) Noting that caveat, I still think that the above comparisons do suggest that UConn should be significantly favored in any NCAA matchup with Texas. And since Texas lost by only 3 points to SC at home in January, does that mean that UConn should also be significantly favored against the Gamecocks? Maybe that is an inference too far.
 
Texas on their day is capable of beating anyone. But I don’t see them winning the title. They just don’t shoot enough 3 pointers. If you can’t shoot 3’s in this era, you are going to run into a hot shooting team and you are going to get sent home.
 
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Two different playing styles, Uconn methodical and focused verses Tennessee chaotic and uneven. With Uconn's steals, turnovers into points and Uconn's 3 point shooting, The Vols will be no problem. Ask Vanderbilt. See what Shea would say. GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!
 
I am not surprised that Tennessee was competitive. The talent is there. On one of these college basketball analysis shows… they tried to pretend that both Texas and Tennessee were winners today. And I am not sure I agree with that. Texas didn’t play very well. And Tennessee did ultimately lose.

Next game for Tennessee is at Ole Miss. I think that is a must win.
 
I wonder if there is a chance that Tennessee doesn't even make the tournament..

They are 16-7 with 5 regular season games left..

@ Ole Miss (Tennessee could lose)

Home vs Texas A&M (Tennessee should win)

@ Oklahoma (Could lose)

@ LSU (could lose)

Vs Vanderbilt (Could lose)

So Tennessee could possibly finish the regular season 17-11
 
Watching today's SEC game between Texas and Tennessee, I was naturally curious to see if any conclusions could be drawn from it about how UConn might match up with Texas if that game should occur in the NCAA tournament. At a very high level, the fact that UConn blew out Tennessee, while Texas escaped with a 2-point win over the LV's, seems to suggest that UConn would be strongly favored over Texas in any future game. But of course, UConn's game against Tennessee was in Hartford, while Texas's game was in Knoxville, so from TN's perspective, we would be comparing a road game blowout loss to a narrow home loss. But given the huge difference in margin of victory, home-vs.-road doesn't seem like a sufficient explanation.

Moreover, there were other similarities between the two games. The most obvious is that both games were tied at halftime. In both games, TN's opponent won the first quarter, and TN won the second quarter by exactly the same margin. In both games, the first 5 minutes of the third quarter were played evenly. After that, UConn blew the game open, while Texas continued to maintain a small lead over TN until the end of the game -- TX's largest lead was 14 points compared to 32 points for UConn. And this was despite the fact that UConn was missing Blanca for its game against TN, while TN was at full strength from a roster standpoint. In today's game between TN and TX, it was Tennessee who was short a player -- Mia Pauldo did not play, while TX appeared to be at full strength.

There was another factor that was dissimilar. In today's game between Tennessee and Texas, the fouls were very unbalanced -- TN committed 25 fouls while TX had only 12 (rather surprising considering that TN was the home team -- it caused VolNation conspiracists to explode in agony!). In the TN - UConn game, the fouls were almost even: 11 committed by TN and 9 by UConn. UConn actually had 1 fewer free throw attempt than TN, although UConn made 1 more free throw (9-for-11 vs. 8-for-12 for TN). In the UConn game, neither the fouls nor the free throws were significant in determining the outcome, but that was not the case in the TX - TN game. In today's game, Texas took 23 free throws and made 17, while TN was only 5-of-11 from the line. That is an advantage of 12 points for TX at the free throw line, which is six times the margin of victory for TX. TX had one less made field goal in the game and 8 fewer 3-point makes, but still won because of the free throw disparity.

Against the TN defense, UConn shot 58% and 50% from distance. Against presumably the same defense, Texas shot 46% and 0% (0-for-6) from 3-point land, despite presumably benefitting from those 25 foul calls on TN.

At the individual performance level, Talaysia Cooper scored 29 points on 12-for-19 shooting (4-for-7 from 3) against TX, compared to 8 points against UConn. On the other hand, Zee Spearman had just 2 points on 1-for-7 shooting against TX, but scored 14 points on 7-for-13 shooting against UConn. Is it too much to infer from this that UConn's interior defense is weaker than TX's, but its perimeter defense is stronger? Whether or not those statistics prove it, I think that is probably the case.

I am well aware of the limits of "transitivity" when comparing sports teams. (For example, if similar logic were used to compare UConn to South Carolina, the fact that SC beat TN by 43 points compared to UConn's 30-point margin of victory might lead to the conclusion that SC is significantly better than UConn.) Noting that caveat, I still think that the above comparisons do suggest that UConn should be significantly favored in any NCAA matchup with Texas. And since Texas lost by only 3 points to SC at home in January, does that mean that UConn should also be significantly favored against the Gamecocks? Maybe that is an inference too far.
What a wonderful, thoughtful analysis. I’ve often had the same type of thinking, but you expressed it just elegantly. Thank you.
And yes, it means we can definitely beat TX in the postseason. SC…a tossup I think.
 
Watching today's SEC game between Texas and Tennessee, I was naturally curious to see if any conclusions could be drawn from it about how UConn might match up with Texas if that game should occur in the NCAA tournament. At a very high level, the fact that UConn blew out Tennessee, while Texas escaped with a 2-point win over the LV's, seems to suggest that UConn would be strongly favored over Texas in any future game. But of course, UConn's game against Tennessee was in Hartford, while Texas's game was in Knoxville, so from TN's perspective, we would be comparing a road game blowout loss to a narrow home loss. But given the huge difference in margin of victory, home-vs.-road doesn't seem like a sufficient explanation.

Moreover, there were other similarities between the two games. The most obvious is that both games were tied at halftime. In both games, TN's opponent won the first quarter, and TN won the second quarter by exactly the same margin. In both games, the first 5 minutes of the third quarter were played evenly. After that, UConn blew the game open, while Texas continued to maintain a small lead over TN until the end of the game -- TX's largest lead was 14 points compared to 32 points for UConn. And this was despite the fact that UConn was missing Blanca for its game against TN, while TN was at full strength from a roster standpoint. In today's game between TN and TX, it was Tennessee who was short a player -- Mia Pauldo did not play, while TX appeared to be at full strength.

There was another factor that was dissimilar. In today's game between Tennessee and Texas, the fouls were very unbalanced -- TN committed 25 fouls while TX had only 12 (rather surprising considering that TN was the home team -- it caused VolNation conspiracists to explode in agony!). In the TN - UConn game, the fouls were almost even: 11 committed by TN and 9 by UConn. UConn actually had 1 fewer free throw attempt than TN, although UConn made 1 more free throw (9-for-11 vs. 8-for-12 for TN). In the UConn game, neither the fouls nor the free throws were significant in determining the outcome, but that was not the case in the TX - TN game. In today's game, Texas took 23 free throws and made 17, while TN was only 5-of-11 from the line. That is an advantage of 12 points for TX at the free throw line, which is six times the margin of victory for TX. TX had one less made field goal in the game and 8 fewer 3-point makes, but still won because of the free throw disparity.

Against the TN defense, UConn shot 58% and 50% from distance. Against presumably the same defense, Texas shot 46% and 0% (0-for-6) from 3-point land, despite presumably benefitting from those 25 foul calls on TN.

At the individual performance level, Talaysia Cooper scored 29 points on 12-for-19 shooting (4-for-7 from 3) against TX, compared to 8 points against UConn. On the other hand, Zee Spearman had just 2 points on 1-for-7 shooting against TX, but scored 14 points on 7-for-13 shooting against UConn. Is it too much to infer from this that UConn's interior defense is weaker than TX's, but its perimeter defense is stronger? Whether or not those statistics prove it, I think that is probably the case.

I am well aware of the limits of "transitivity" when comparing sports teams. (For example, if similar logic were used to compare UConn to South Carolina, the fact that SC beat TN by 43 points compared to UConn's 30-point margin of victory might lead to the conclusion that SC is significantly better than UConn.) Noting that caveat, I still think that the above comparisons do suggest that UConn should be significantly favored in any NCAA matchup with Texas. And since Texas lost by only 3 points to SC at home in January, does that mean that UConn should also be significantly favored against the Gamecocks? Maybe that is an inference too far.
Home court can make a huge difference, and the Tennessee team that showed up yesterday is far different than the Tennessee team that showed up against South Carolina and the last 15 minutes vs. UCONN.

I don't think many folks think Texas has a superior team to UCONN this year, but using results vs a very inconsistent Tennessee team as a litmus isn't an accurate measuring stick IMO.
 
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UConn’s defense crumbles every team. There is no defense that will crumble UConn.
 
Near the end of the first half, the score was essentially tied and I saw that Texas was hitting 59% of the field goal attempts. Obviously, 59 is very good but typically not sustainable, so I will worry that they might not be able to pull out the victory.
 
Do you care to elaborate? UConn and Texas both faced "oranges"; neither faced an apple.
Facing a common opponent to predict the outcome of a game is meaningless. There are different game situations, could be different players, game time at different times of day, players battling different issues, different game plans, different crowds, different referees ...how many more do you want?
 
I wonder if there is a chance that Tennessee doesn't even make the tournament..

They are 16-7 with 5 regular season games left..

@ Ole Miss (Tennessee could lose)

Home vs Texas A&M (Tennessee should win)

@ Oklahoma (Could lose)

@ LSU (could lose)

Vs Vanderbilt (Could lose)

So Tennessee could possibly finish the regular season 17-11
The Lady Vols are like Notre Dame football around these parts. The only way the Lady Vols miss the tournament, is if they decide to skip the tournament. The Lady Vols are like the guests that come to the house, and they get to sit in the special room with all of the plastic on the furniture and creepy porcelain dolls. The Lady Vols are royalty. They don't miss the NCAA Tournament.
 
The Lady Vols are like Notre Dame football around these parts. The only way the Lady Vols miss the tournament, is if they decide to skip the tournament. The Lady Vols are like the guests that come to the house, and they get to sit in the special room with all of the plastic on the furniture and creepy porcelain dolls. The Lady Vols are royalty. They don't miss the NCAA Tournament.
True. But Notre Dame football didn't get an invite to the playoffs this year.

But in reality, Tennessee could have 17 or 18 wins including any of their tournament wins and they will still get in because of their name.
 
Facing a common opponent to predict the outcome of a game is meaningless. There are different game situations, could be different players, game time at different times of day, players battling different issues, different game plans, different crowds, different referees ...how many more do you want?
i will point out that trying to prove a prediction is always meaningless. nobody can know what's happening in the future. predictions are just opinions, which can't be proved or disproved, just contested. thank god, because there would be no drama or speculating (which are fun) if the future is a lock. @joepugh's speculation was more interesting than most in the BY. i don't think he anywhere assured a win for our heroes.
 
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UConn beat Ohio State by 32, Iowa by 26, and USC by 28. If you take those as some sort of indication how those teams would do against each other, they should have close games. Iowa beat Ohio State by 19 and lost to USC by 12.

Matchups matter, and team one might match up against someone really well while team two, which is better on paper might not, leading to results that might not be at all indicative of how team one and team two do against each other. To me the eye test indicates that UConn is better than Texas, but it's not because of the Tennessee games. But I personally find any team coached by Vic Schaefer dangerous. Still smarting from Itty Bitty.
 
I wonder if there is a chance that Tennessee doesn't even make the tournament..

They are 16-7 with 5 regular season games left..

@ Ole Miss (Tennessee could lose)

Home vs Texas A&M (Tennessee should win)

@ Oklahoma (Could lose)

@ LSU (could lose)

Vs Vanderbilt (Could lose)

So Tennessee could possibly finish the regular season 17-11
They'll make the tournament....unfortunately. They were 8-8 last year in conference and made the tournament. By your hypothesis they would be 9-7 this year. They're in. Let's just hope they lose in the 1st round.
 
i will point out that trying to prove a prediction is always meaningless. nobody can know what's happening in the future. predictions are just opinions, which can't be proved or disproved, just contested. thank god, because there would be no drama or speculating (which are fun) if the future is a lock. @joepugh's speculation was more interesting than most in the BY. i don't think he anywhere assured a win for our heroes.
Well actually they are proved, or disproved, when the future plays out.
 
Texas on their day is capable of beating anyone. But I don’t see them winning the title. They just don’t shoot enough 3 pointers. If you can’t shoot 3’s in this era, you are going to run into a hot shooting team and you are going to get sent home.

This. They don't have a 3 point shooter to open up the middle. And until they do, defenses can collapse
 

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