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Always remember were ever NW ends up he will always be apart of the Uconn family,I believe he will end up somewhere and be another Anthony Sherman a team leader.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Larry Taylor was in training camp with the Jets 3 years ago as a returner, Nick deserves a chance, if not the CFL could be an option. I will always wonder what Nick might have done if he got a shot at RB. He's bigger, stronger, and faster than McCombs but he never was given an opportunity at RB.
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Obviously, you could certainly be correct about Williams perhaps having been a missed weapon at RB since ultimately we'll never know. Having said that, I think WR's with quicks and running QB's look like they could be promising RB's, but it is just too tough to compare how a QB runs with wide-open lanes and WR's with the wide-open spaces downfield to what a RB does. I'm not saying there is NO correlation, but I think it's tempting to think there is MORE of a correlation between QB/WR running skills and ability as a RB than there really is.
 
Seeing all this talent that we had and all these seniors doing well just pisses me off even more that we were 5-7 and didn't go bowling...who ever gives me that lack of talent excuse can stick it up their ace...the coaching sucked, what a waste of great defensive and decent offensive talent...good luck to the seniors.
 
Blue whale said:
Seeing all this talent that we had and all these seniors doing well just pisses me off even more that we were 5-7 and didn't go bowling...who ever gives me that lack of talent excuse can stick it up their ace...the coaching sucked, what a waste of great defensive and decent offensive talent...good luck to the seniors.
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The talent on offense last year was not decent. It was a step above abysmal. Hopefully with a year experience, the offense plays better.
 
huskysupporter said:
The talent on offense last year was not decent. It was a step above abysmal. Hopefully with a year experience, the offense plays better.
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Whitmer, Griffin, Delahunt, Williams, McCombs...a decent head coach would have adjusted and simplified one thing (the O-line) and would have had been bowling easily.
 
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I mean, if we're talking strictly as a WR, doesn't Michael Smith have a better chance than Nick Williams?

Are Williams KR skills really NFL KR skills? I think he could man the position no doubt, but he's not Trinidon Holliday or Devin Hester that will make a team solely off that. He needs to make a team as a WR, and then they'll let the special teams skills break a tie or close deficit.

Also - if we're going to compare Nick's combine # to Welker and call them even, what do we make of Marquise Goodwin? Sure fire hall of famer?
 
Blue whale said:
Whitmer, Griffin, Delahunt, Williams, McCombs...a decent head coach would have adjusted and simplified one thing (the O-line) and would have had been bowling easily.
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Whitmer was not good last year (I am hopeful it is just because he was adjusting to D 1 football), his decision making was poor, his accuracy was inconsistent on any pass over 8 yards, and the amount of turnovers were unacceptable. McCombs was anything but good last year (and I was a huge supporter going into the year). Nick Williams is a fantastic kick returner, I love his vision and decisiveness in the open field, but he was not a good receiver last year. He had trouble locating the ball in the air, and dropped many catchable balls.

We should have been bowling, no question, and I primarily blame the coaching staff for that (and a crazy off kicking day from our PK). But none of UCONN's draft eligible offensive players will be drafted, and only one, Griffin, played well enough to get a shot on offense Sundays. (This is not to say that the young talent currently on the team will not develop into fine prospects.)
 
Sean said:
I mean, if we're talking strictly as a WR, doesn't Michael Smith have a better chance than Nick Williams?

Are Williams KR skills really NFL KR skills? I think he could man the position no doubt, but he's not Trinidon Holliday or Devin Hester that will make a team solely off that. He needs to make a team as a WR, and then they'll let the special teams skills break a tie or close deficit.

Also - if we're going to compare Nick's combine # to Welker and call them even, what do we make of Marquise Goodwin? Sure fire hall of famer?
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I think Williams returner skills are nfl quality. However, like you said, it is a true luxury for an nfl team to carry a returner who just can return kicks (like the aforementioned Holliday). Kick returners often have to be gunners on special teams, and have to at least show a little promise at WR. That is going to hurt Nick's chances to stick on an NFL roster.
 
huskysupporter said:
The talent on offense last year was not decent. It was a step above abysmal. Hopefully with a year experience, the offense plays better.
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The talent on offense was decent. Look it up, our QB was middle of the pack in the BE. We had many good players as the post-season proves.

The problem was on the sideline.
 
Palatine said:
The talent on offense was decent. Look it up, our QB was middle of the pack in the BE. We had many good players as the post-season proves.

The problem was on the sideline.
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The talent was not decent. The post season? Are you talking about workouts?

The defense was lights out, and there still is an abundance of talent. The offensive talent last year was poor (and I am being generous). Again, the young talent on the O can certainly improve (as often happens in a college program) as they gain experience.
 
huskysupporter said:
The talent was not decent. The post season? Are you talking about workouts?

The defense was lights out, and there still is an abundance of talent. The offensive talent last year was poor (and I am being generous). Again, the young talent on the O can certainly improve (as often happens in a college program) as they gain experience.
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You're right, the "talent" was better than decent.

The post season was All BE recognition, pro day. and let see who gets invited to NFL camps.
 
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The truth, as usual, is probably somewhere in the middle.

We didn't have elite offensive talent last year. But we also didn't have talent ranked in the 100's either.

An adequate offense wins us 9 games last year.
 
Palatine said:
You're right, the "talent" was better than decent.

The post season was All BE recognition, pro day. and let see who gets invited to NFL camps.
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The offensive talent was not better than decent. You disagree regarding offensive personnel?

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huskysupporter said:
The talent on offense last year was not decent. It was a step above abysmal. Hopefully with a year experience, the offense plays better.
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What does a Kelly from ND do with this talent. He seemed to get Cin. going each year by evaluating who could do what best and have them do it. Just throw some 1st down slants and can the wildcat and get some beef on some running plays - Uconn averaged less than 18 points per game and was 118th out of 120 schools in scoring.
So Uconn had less talent than Tulane on offense as they scored 4 times as many points against Rutgers, USF gave up 6 to Uconn and the rest of the conference gave up 23,37,27,37,27,27 - and that was all talent difference?
If the PP was coach of the ol' UCLA boys basketball team he would have played Goodrich and Hazzard in the post and played a slow down game and later when he got Lew Alcindor he'd have played him at point guard and pressed the whole game.
 
Husky68 said:
What does a Kelly from ND do with this talent. He seemed to get Cin. going each year by evaluating who could do what best and have them do it. Just throw some 1st down slants and can the wildcat and get some beef on some running plays - Uconn averaged less than 18 points per game and was 118th out of 120 schools in scoring.
So Uconn had less talent than Tulane on offense as they scored 4 times as many points against Rutgers, USF gave up 6 to Uconn and the rest of the conference gave up 23,37,27,37,27,27 - and that was all talent difference?
If the PP was coach of the ol' UCLA boys basketball team he would have played Goodrich and Hazzard in the post and played a slow down game and later when he got Lew Alcindor he'd have played him at point guard and pressed the whole game.
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Who is arguing that coaching wasn't a very big problem? Bad coaching + poor talent = disaster. And that is exactly what happened on O.

Love the Tulane "scored 4 times as many points" point. Um, they scored 12, which is 4 times more than the 3 we scored, but is that really your best argument? And Tulane's QB was better than our QB no question.

Here was the issue with Offense, and it is so simple:

1. There was not much talent. If you ask me what the strength of our team was, I would stare blankly into space. If you asked me if we were a better run blocking or pass blocking team, I would let out a big sigh, and then continue to look blankly into space.
2. The offensive play calling lacked any type of rhythm. If there was a strength it was our 6'6 tight end, who was an excellent receiver. I would focus on play action and making him the focal point of the offense.

Again, I fully expect the talent that is currently on the roster to improve. It is only natural after another year of experience, weight lifting, and watching film. Specifically, I have heard some great things about some of the young offensive linemen, and I really believe Geremy Davis is going to be an excellent receiver (and Shakim Phillips showed flashes to make me think the same of him).
 
Husky68 said:
What does a Kelly from ND do with this talent. He seemed to get Cin. going each year by evaluating who could do what best and have them do it. Just throw some 1st down slants and can the wildcat and get some beef on some running plays - Uconn averaged less than 18 points per game and was 118th out of 120 schools in scoring.
So Uconn had less talent than Tulane on offense as they scored 4 times as many points against Rutgers, USF gave up 6 to Uconn and the rest of the conference gave up 23,37,27,37,27,27 - and that was all talent difference?
If the PP was coach of the ol' UCLA boys basketball team he would have played Goodrich and Hazzard in the post and played a slow down game and later when he got Lew Alcindor he'd have played him at point guard and pressed the whole game.
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Honestly, what do you think Kelly does with this offensive talent? (I am a huge Kelly fan, by the way). Are you saying this offensive talent is anywhere near the talent he had at Cincy?
 
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Absolutely we had sufficient talent to go Bowling. Schemes and play calling were sub-par. We misused our talent.
 
Nostical said:
Absolutely we had sufficient talent to go Bowling. Schemes and play calling were sub-par. We misused our talent.
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I think this is a good topic of discussion, and would love to hear other's views on this.

What talent was misused? Aside from Griffin, I just didn't see the talent. Alot of people have been saying that Joe Williams should have been utilized more, but I think the fact he saw zero playing time despite the struggles of the running game was pretty telling.
 
huskysupporter said:
I think this is a good topic of discussion, and would love to hear other's views on this.

What talent was misused? Aside from Griffin, I just didn't see the talent. Alot of people have been saying that Joe Williams should have been utilized more, but I think the fact he saw zero playing time despite the struggles of the running game was pretty telling.
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You are giving the benefit of the doubt to the same cast that couldn't figure out when to call a TO at the end of the first half against Rutgers. Coaches miss on evaluations all the time. Easley comes to mind.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
You are giving the benefit of the doubt to the same cast that couldn't figure out when to call a TO at the end of the first half against Rutgers. Coaches miss on evaluations all the time. Easley comes to mind.
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Absolutely. Willie Parker at UNC comes to mind as well. I just want to hear from other yarders regarding the misused talent. Who? Who was underutilized?
 
We had no QB for 2 years. We have something that resembles a D1 QB, especially the last 4 games IMHO. Overall the talent level was probably normal. Edsall left us with almost nothing at QB. Any team could plan a defense around that. It's like having no pitching and a decent batting order.

So could we have won 3 or 4 more games sure, but this is the year PP has to show us something.
 
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huskysupporter said:
Honestly, what do you think Kelly does with this offensive talent? (I am a huge Kelly fan, by the way). Are you saying this offensive talent is anywhere near the talent he had at Cincy?
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I'm saying coaching matters. How would fhcRE's team done if he hadn't "discovered" a red shirt 5th year player in his 5th game of his senior year named Easley. One player. Anyone that doesn't think coaching really, really matters in college football are just plain wrong.

Answwer me this, rate GDL as offensive coach. Was performance of team 118th in scoring but he is really a top 10 offensive coach? Same question, does Kelly as head coach allow this type of offensive performance with a returning freshman all american RB, very good tight ends, slot receiver who will get NFL looks. Does he have team run 160 lb inside RB on 1st & 2nd downs against 8 in the box, throw 3rd and 7 passes 3 yards or 30, run the wildcat with a backup QB as often as GDL.

Against Div 1 teams Uconn averaged 17 pts per game (and if take out special teams less than 16 per game). This was coaching. The opposing defense knew Uconn's plays ahead of time based on personnel, formations and down/distance.
 
Punt return is not about speed as much as it is about quickness.

He has a chance but I think he ends up at best in Canadian football league or indoor league
 
Husky68 said:
I'm saying coaching matters. How would fhcRE's team done if he hadn't "discovered" a red shirt 5th year player in his 5th game of his senior year named Easley. One player. Anyone that doesn't think coaching really, really matters in college football are just plain wrong.

Answwer me this, rate GDL as offensive coach. Was performance of team 118th in scoring but he is really a top 10 offensive coach? Same question, does Kelly as head coach allow this type of offensive performance with a returning freshman all american RB, very good tight ends, slot receiver who will get NFL looks. Does he have team run 160 lb inside RB on 1st & 2nd downs against 8 in the box, throw 3rd and 7 passes 3 yards or 30, run the wildcat with a backup QB as often as GDL.

Against Div 1 teams Uconn averaged 17 pts per game (and if take out special teams less than 16 per game). This was coaching. The opposing defense knew Uconn's plays ahead of time based on personnel, formations and down/distance.
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I will respond more fully when I get back from work. But I don't think you answered a question. Do you think last years offensive talent was close to anything Cincy had?

And we are in complete agreement that coaching is a huge aspect of any sport. Not just during the games either. And we are in agreement that coaching at UCONN was an issue last season.

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