What BET seeding scenario do you prefer?
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I think the question is, where would the other teams like us seeded in order to not have to face us…
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Playing at 2:30 on Thursday sucks really bad, but that is literally the only aspect of the 4-seed scenario I find undesirable compared to the alternative.
Tangent: My dream scenario, which is impossible now, would have been to beat Creighton on Thursday (monkey off our back), PC on Friday (beat the 1-seed and prove our condescension all season was warranted), and Nova in the championship (dethrone the king).
Tangent: My dream scenario, which is impossible now, would have been to beat Creighton on Thursday (monkey off our back), PC on Friday (beat the 1-seed and prove our condescension all season was warranted), and Nova in the championship (dethrone the king).
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It's a tough call. This team does play better against better teams for the most part so a 4 may be better. But a 3 seed is better for the brand by a slight margin. I voted 3 season because it looks better. I just don't want to face a Michigan or big5 team that happens to win a play in game. I'll always take facing a mid major as opposed to a middle of the pack big 5 school
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I believe you are referring to the NCAA tourney. The question is about what seed would you prefer in the BET.
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i'd rather play marquette in the second round than hall
it will suck if we never get to play PC again and are left wondering what would have happened in a rematch.
it also gives nova another game for someone to upset them. i'm sick of gillespie and dont care to see and his push offs ever again. i think i might pick Hall to make a run to the finals as a 6 seed on that side of the bracket.
i'd rather play marquette in the second round than hall
it will suck if we never get to play PC again and are left wondering what would have happened in a rematch.
it also gives nova another game for someone to upset them. i'm sick of gillespie and dont care to see and his push offs ever again. i think i might pick Hall to make a run to the finals as a 6 seed on that side of the bracket.
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I'd rather play Hall actually. I know we're 2-0 vs Marquette, but it is tough to beat a team three times. Regardless, there is no team that I am afraid of in the conference so I don't really care who we play. We can beat everyone. We'll have to beat Nova at some point most likely, so who cares if its Friday or Saturday.
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idk where this saying came from or when it applies.
by that logic should a team prefer to play someone that's already beaten them twice in a season as opposed to someone they have already beaten twice that season? since it's tough to beat a team 3-0?
it's not that tough if you are simply better than the other team and matchup well against them.
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It's one thing if it's Gtown and you beat them three times. Marquette is a capable team. Hard to beat capable teams three times. We match up well vs them, yes, but law of averages say they should they should get us in round 3.
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so since we're a capable team, you do think if we had to choose between playing a team we're 2-0 against or a team we're 0-2 against, we'd pick the team that's already beaten us twice based on the law of averages? i think that's crazy talk.
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This is my answer, and why I’m trying to consider that Creighton loss OK - either we won that game and locked up the 3-seed & the evening games, or we lost it but end up with the theoretically easier path to the BET final.
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This argument comes up every year on the Boneyard, and it's been discussed and studied since time began. @ThabeetDown, I recommend you google it. You are really making some unsubstantiated claims.
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Would be better to get PC and Nova on the schedule for NET purposes. I like our chances against PC more than Nova, as the rubber match will be a coinflip.
Assuming we can take DePaul tomorrow - wins against Marquette, PC, and then a game against Nova give us a real solid shot at the 4 seed. Win the BET and we're a 3 seed.
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Don't belittle me. I know the info. 70% of the time the 2-0 team wins again. However, I am sure most of those games are when good teams face bad teams, hence my Gtown example.
Marquette is a good team. Would you be surprised if we lost to them? If you say no, you're ignorant. I'd rather face a team like Seton Hall which doesn't have the extra motivation having lost to us twice already.
It's unreal how toxic this place can be for expressing an opinion.
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Of course I'd pick Marquette over Creighton. But this was Seton Hall vs Marquette. Completely different scenarios.
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just trying to figure out what scenarios the rule applies to. seems to be when the choice is between a capable team we're 2-0 against versus a team we're 1-1 against. but it also seems to be superstitious.
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Your rebuttal came across as much more rude then his statement. If anyone was trying to belittle anyone it seems like you were.
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People who wouldn't be surprised if we lost to Marquette are ignorant?
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late night games. whatever that is
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No, but is Seton Hall not also a good team, one that was good enough to already beat us when we played a really good offensive game (albeit at their place)?
Seton Hall is ranked better in every metric than Marquette (NET, KenPom, SOR, KPI, Sagarin, and BPI) despite finishing lower in the Big East standings. They've won 7 of their last 9 games, compared to Marquette which has won only 4 of their last 9.
Not to mention the matchup advantage we have vs. Marquette compared to Seton Hall. We have no good defensive options for Richmond (our best plan was to double and leave a shooter wide open) and Seton Hall has the size to combat us inside. Meanwhile we've owned Kuath and Ighodaro, and have plenty of options to throw at Lewis (or just let him get his, whereas Hall still has other threats aside from Richmond like Rhoden).
On a neutral court, I don't think the emotional grudge will make up the difference in their form, quality, or the matchup deficiency.
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If we had beaten Creighton we would be the 3 seed and the 3 seed doesn't play the top seed until the final so we would not have been playing PC on Friday.
It's pretty simple.
Forget about 2-0 or 1-1 or that you just barely won the rematch or embarrassed yourself with a 5th straight loss to a team.
Play whoever you match up with and win.
The key seems to be motivation. For some reason the team has come out with a passive mindset too many times.
It's hard to reconcile how hard they played against the alter boys from Philthydelfia with how they played the first half against Crayon State.
Let's hope Dan Hurley figures it out. There has to be something amiss in the pre-game speech or game planning when you have so many slow starts. Or is it simply a lack of leadership?
The best seed to me is #4 or #5 because each is playing its first game of the tournament after a five day layoff and is not playing a team that just won its first game.
Forget about 2-0 or 1-1 or that you just barely won the rematch or embarrassed yourself with a 5th straight loss to a team.
Play whoever you match up with and win.
The key seems to be motivation. For some reason the team has come out with a passive mindset too many times.
It's hard to reconcile how hard they played against the alter boys from Philthydelfia with how they played the first half against Crayon State.
Let's hope Dan Hurley figures it out. There has to be something amiss in the pre-game speech or game planning when you have so many slow starts. Or is it simply a lack of leadership?
The best seed to me is #4 or #5 because each is playing its first game of the tournament after a five day layoff and is not playing a team that just won its first game.
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Damn. Well can you do me a favor and save my response for the tourney poll?
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I didn't mean to condescend. I guess my writing style just comes across as arrogant sometimes. (And, to be fair, sometimes I am knowingly being a jerk. This wasn't one of those times, though.)
I would not be surprised if Marquette were to beat us, but I would rather play them than, say, Creighton in our first BET game.
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