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What about this lineup for now?

superjohn said:
Yeah, we disagree. Of course offense is a concern with what we have returning right now. That's why Hurley and staff aren't close to finished constructing this team.

We lost 41 ppg with our three starters gone from this season and 45 ppg of our NCAA tournament scoring gone with those three starters. So far we've replaced them with two starters who averaged 6.5 ppg and 5.7 ppg and you want that third starter to be Jayden Ross who averaged 4.6 ppg on the season 4.0 ppg in over 20 minutes per game in the 6 NCAA tournament games or by Landrew who doesn't have the rep of our past three star freshmen. No thanks. I don't think Hurley sees it that way either.
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Well we will find out.

I think it's a bit disingenuous to label Ross at 4 ppg. He wasn't 4 ppg when he actually got in, especially later in the year after he gained confidence in his shot. You also seem to be penciling in Mullins for the 12 he got last year. I think he's BEPOY and 1st team AA and gets closer to 18. Nik was behind Cam Boozer who had one of the highest usage rates in the country. He's not a 5.7 a game guy in our offense where he'll be featured. If Hurley thought that, he wouldn't be here. Can he completely replace Karaban? I hope he doesn't play that many minutes honestly, we overused AK. So we do need another 4. I'd love to see us bring in a 5 behind Hines that can actually score. That's my main concern. A pure defense and rebounding 5 does present offensive concerns.

You're also completely discounting Junior County who comes in as the #6/8 SG in the class. Jordan Hawkins was #12. County can absolutely shoot and score. I expect a similar impact from him.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Well we will find out.

I think it's a bit disingenuous to label Ross at 4 ppg. He wasn't 4 ppg when he actually got in, especially later in the year after he gained confidence in his shot. You also seem to be penciling in Mullins for the 12 he got last year. I think he's BEPOY and 1st team AA and gets closer to 18. Nik was behind Cam Boozer who had one of the highest usage rates in the country. He's not a 5.7 a game guy in our offense where he'll be featured. If Hurley thought that, he wouldn't be here. Can he completely replace Karaban? I hope he doesn't play that many minutes honestly, we overused AK. So we do need another 4. I'd love to see us bring in a 5 behind Hines that can actually score. That's my main concern. A pure defense and rebounding 5 does present offensive concerns.

You're also completely discounting Junior County who comes in as the #6/8 SG in the class. Jordan Hawkins was #12. County can absolutely shoot and score. I expect a similar impact from him.
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"I think it's a bit disingenuous to label Ross at 4 ppg."

Come on man, please read my post again. I gave Jayden's ppg for the season 4.6 and I gave his ppg for the 6 NCAA tournament games 4.0 ppg. Just like I gave Hines and Khamenia's ppg.

And why are you now bringing Junior County into the conversation? We were talking about who was going to start and I don't think it should be Jayden or Landrew, you do think it should be one of them. Since you're now weirdly bringing him into the conversation County isn't going to start and I think he's likely to be Demary's main backup at point. He doesn't shoot it like Hawkins and is highly unlikely to be a lottery pick after 2 seasons.
 
superjohn said:
"I think it's a bit disingenuous to label Ross at 4 ppg."

Come on man, please read my post again. I gave Jayden's ppg for the season 4.6 and I gave his ppg for the 6 NCAA tournament games 4.0 ppg. Just like I gave Hines and Khamenia's ppg.

And why are you now bringing Junior County into the conversation? We were talking about who was going to start and I don't think it should be Jayden or Landrew, you do think it should be one of them. Since you're now weirdly bringing him into the conversation County isn't going to start and I think he's likely to be Demary's main backup at point. He doesn't shoot it like Hawkins and is highly unlikely to be a lottery pick after 2 seasons.
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I don't look at just starters. I view Ross/Landrew as being in an even minutes split based on matchups and needs. Bring in a starting 3 or 4 (moving Nik to 3) and it's likely both of them will be out of here. Neither Mullins nor Hurley would want Mullins back at the 3.

 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't look at just starters. I view Ross/Landrew as being in an even minutes split based on matchups and needs. Bring in a starting 3 or 4 (moving Nik to 3) and it's likely both of them will be out of here. Neither Mullins nor Hurley would want Mullins back at the 3.

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How is Ross still not getting the proper respect in these defensive analytics lol
 
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RuffRuff said:
Count backup pg
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County? Yes. I said before I like it. The Solo move means you have SG filled in 27, have to find out if County can handle PG. Still need a Millender type for injury and another guard for depth.
 
HuskyHawk said:
County? Yes. I said before I like it. The Solo move means you have SG filled in 27, have to find out if County can handle PG. Still need a Millender type for injury and another guard for depth.
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Sounds like the plan - makes sense. Biggest curiosity now is the backup 5 and SG. How big are they going?
 
superjohn said:
We lost 41 ppg with our three starters gone from this season
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And our 5 starters were at 62ppg, I think this is realistic:
Silas- 14 (+4)
Mullins- 20 (+8)
Ross- 8 (+4)
NK- 10 (+4)
Hines- 10 (+3)
Total: 62
 
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I'm shocked by how many people reference bringing in a Millender type. He was a practice body, we can and should be aiming much higher
 
MrDownunder said:
Still think Hurley should take a look at the Georgetown point guard Mack as backup. He can shoot the three.
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No, no, no, to Malik Mack. He is inefficient on offense and jacks up ill advised shots too many times. Also, the ball sticks in his hands too much and he over dribbles a lot despite what the 4 assists/game would suggest. I don't have any subscriptions to the advanced analytics sites like Evan Miya, KenPom, and others but I am willing to bet his defensive numbers are not too hot just based off of what I saw.

If Hurley goes after any former Georgetown players it should be or should've been Julius Halaifonua or Drew Fielder. This is of course assuming the money is there to get them. It's too late for Fielder as he is going to Alabama, but Halaifonua would be a solid pickup. Now Halaifonua might be looking for a huge payday out of UConn's price range; then he will get removed from the list.
 
T-Squared said:
He hasn’t played a minute in a Husky uniform. I’d go with Jaden and his three years of experience over an incoming and unproven freshman. If he earns the spot in practice, great.
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I do not remember you or anyone else for that matter, saying that about Liam or Braylon. Just saying….the kid is legit. Just wait.
 
navery12 said:
I'm shocked by how many people reference bringing in a Millender type. He was a practice body, we can and should be aiming much higher
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He was also deep insurance, and we will likely need someone similar this year for the same reasons. You can never be short a PG.
 
upstater said:
This isn't even close to being accurate.

Top 20 guys:

Rip Hamilton
Ray Allen
Donyell Marshall
Andre drummond
Caron Butler
Ben Gordon
Taliek Brown
AJ Price
Daniel Hamilton
Jalen Adams

Top 25:
Deandre Daniels
Kemba Walker

I can find more than this.

Not to mention earlier players before the days of national rankings, back when Street & Smiths listed them by region. I guess there were All-American first and second teams back then so you could guess who were in the top 10.

But Corny Thompson and Earl Kelley were both national recruits with big time offers. I'd say they'd both be top 25 if they ranked them.
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Your list is better than the first, but I am flabbergasted that Donovan Clingan has not been brought up. Holy God are you kidding me????? How quickly do we forget the most impactful center to enter the NBA is a few years??????
 
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bendm said:
Why did stew leave if there’s still that much PT available at forward? Best case scenario the backup C we get can play some PF too like Machot
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I just woke up from a coma that lasted two years. I did not know that Stewey had become a two guard. How things change!!!
 
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