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What about this lineup for now?



This makes a good point on Landrew probably starting at the 3. We aren't bringing in our 8th highest recruit to come off the bench behind Ross. Ross might start there early but don't expect that to last.

Yes like I’ve been saying for weeks Landrew is being brought here to play right from the jump…24/7 has him as a 5 star, Maxpreps had him as first team player in HS class of 2026…guy will bring the physicality and toughness we lacked against St John’s last year and is a 3 level scorer , great defender and rebounder
 
I don't want Jayden or Landrew starting.
Too bad. As I said before one of them will. By January Landrew will be major impact player. We started freshman at the three each of the last 3 years. What’s the issue?
 
With Ball being out, it may necessitate that Ross start. He knows the offense as well as Ball, his experience is invaluable, especially after losing Karaban, and he is an NCAA Champion.

Finally I think at least come the start of the season, Ross is rewarded with the starting position initially. Of course it will depend on game performance if he keeps it, but to have a 4 year player on our squad should be exploited.

Just saying I think Hurley appreciates his loyalty and that I wouldn't be surprised if Ross starts beginning of the season. The key is remaining a starter. I think he's ready.
 
Too bad. As I said before one of them will. By January Landrew will be major impact player. We started freshman at the three each of the last 3 years. What’s the issue?
Castle, McNeeley, and Mullins were all one and done types who were brought in to start day one and were ready to start day one. I don't trust Landrew is ready for that on a team with intentions of winning the whole thing. He's had a major rise in the rankings the past year but he's still ranked #22 overall and the #8 small forward in what is considered a historically weak freshman class, I would pump the brakes a little bit. For reference Castle was the #9 ranked recruit overall and the #2 combo guard, McNeeley was #10 overall and the #2 small forward, Mullins #12 overall and the #2 shooting guard. There was lottery pick hype for all three of them before stepping on the UConn campus.
 
Castle, McNeeley, and Mullins were all one and done types who were brought in to start day one and were ready to start day one. I don't trust Landrew is ready for that on a team with intentions of winning the whole thing. He's had a major rise in the rankings the past year but he's still ranked #22 overall and the #8 small forward in what is considered a historically weak freshman class, I would pump the brakes a little bit. For reference Castle was the #9 ranked recruit overall and the #2 combo guard, McNeeley was #10 overall and the #2 small forward, Mullins #12 overall and the #2 shooting guard. There was lottery pick hype for all three of them before stepping on the UConn campus.

Still need a big athletic 4 in the starting lineup. Any guesses?
Why did stew leave if there’s still that much PT available at forward? Best case scenario the backup C we get can play some PF too like Machot
 
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Castle, McNeeley, and Mullins were all one and done types who were brought in to start day one and were ready to start day one. I don't trust Landrew is ready for that on a team with intentions of winning the whole thing. He's had a major rise in the rankings the past year but he's still ranked #22 overall and the #8 small forward in what is considered a historically weak freshman class, I would pump the brakes a little bit. For reference Castle was the #9 ranked recruit overall and the #2 combo guard, McNeeley was #10 overall and the #2 small forward, Mullins #12 overall and the #2 shooting guard. There was lottery pick hype for all three of them before stepping on the UConn campus.
I'm not worried about it, because we have Ross as depth and the fit is superb. Everyone focuses on offense, but what made Castle stand out was his ability to stand in the paint and take chest bumps from bigger guys and not move. It's something Mullins was exposed at, because he really was never intended to be a 3 and was a bad defensive fit there. Landrew on the other hand, is even more solid than Castle. I don't think he's one and done (neither were Mullins or Khamenia) but he's probably a 2 and done. Still not a guy who sits on the bench.

I'm not worried about it at all. Look at Wilkins, everyone would plug him in as a starting combo, but what was his ranking? Zero stars. HS recruiting rankings suck. The portal has shown us how many guys they miss on. I think Hurley knows exactly what he has coming in.
 
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He played the 3 at Duke, why not here.
LOL. Because Boozer was the 4 at Duke. He absolutely can play the 3. We don't need him to play the 3. We need him to play the 4, which in our system is almost identical.
 
I'm not worried about it, because we have Ross as depth and the fit is superb. Everyone focuses on offense, but what made Castle stand out was his ability to stand in the paint and take chest bumps from bigger guys and not move. It's something Mullins was exposed at, because he really was never intended to be a 3 and was a bad defensive fit there. Landrew on the other hand, is even more solid than Castle. I don't think he's one and done (neither were Mullins or Khamenia) but he's probably a 2 and done. Still not a guy who sits on the bench.

I'm not worried about it at all. Look at Wilkins, everyone would plug him in as a starting combo, but what was his ranking? Zero stars. HS recruiting rankings suck. The portal has shown us how many guys they miss on. I think Hurley knows exactly what he has coming in.
I agree with Superjohn on this, and I've said it in the other threads. We need more offense and shooters. Relying on a frosh and Ross at this point is a downgrade in the team's offensive game, especially since we lost Karaban, Reed and Ross.

Just need one more shooter and a big.
 
The number of posters here who think the mid-90s Knicks are the ideal blueprint for a basketball team is not insignificant
 
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I'm not worried about it, because we have Ross as depth and the fit is superb. Everyone focuses on offense, but what made Castle stand out was his ability to stand in the paint and take chest bumps from bigger guys and not move. It's something Mullins was exposed at, because he really was never intended to be a 3 and was a bad defensive fit there. Landrew on the other hand, is even more solid than Castle. I don't think he's one and done (neither were Mullins or Khamenia) but he's probably a 2 and done. Still not a guy who sits on the bench.

I'm not worried about it at all. Look at Wilkins, everyone would plug him in as a starting combo, but what was his ranking? Zero stars. HS recruiting rankings suck. The portal has shown us how many guys they miss on. I think Hurley knows exactly what he has coming in.
We need to get bigger. Some of the need to get bigger is/was negated when we thought we were returning one of the best scoring guards in the nation who would have his shooting back on track with a healed wrist. That has changed, I'm sure Hurley and staff have been preparing for this. Thrusting Landrew into the starting lineup or expecting Ross to increase his scoring average by 175% as a starter doesn't seem like the way to go. We need to get bigger or we need to score the ball, with this news and the current roster we are in this in between thing where we're neither big enough or have enough scoring punch. It isn't ideal for a team with designs to win the whole thing. I expect Hurley and staff to change that.

Also, if you're expecting Landrew to be Castle defensively I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.

I never wanted Wilkins, he looks like a classic example of the portal overrating a kid from a fairly weak mid-major conference. His advanced numbers stink and he's rail thin. There's a reason he's the only guy who wants to play for Mark Pope, he'll get his scoring numbers and my guess is there won't be all that much winning.
 
The number of posters here who think the mid-90s Knicks are the ideal blueprint for a basketball team is not insignificant
I’m not thinking that. How would our offense look with a Momlosovic or Figueroa type at the 4? And Nik at the 3. We’d be great. You don’t think our coaches would like that. Obviously we’ll wait and see but we wouldn’t undermanned against huge teams.
 
We need to get bigger. Some of the need to get bigger is/was negated when we thought we were returning one of the best scoring guards in the nation who would have his shooting back on track with a healed wrist. That has changed, I'm sure Hurley and staff have been preparing for this. Thrusting Landrew into the starting lineup or expecting Ross to increase his scoring average by 175% as a starter doesn't seem like the way to go. We need to get bigger or we need to score the ball, with this news and the current roster we are in this in between thing where we're neither big enough or have enough scoring punch. It isn't ideal for a team with designs to win the whole thing. I expect Hurley and staff to change that.

Also, if you're expecting Landrew to be Castle defensively I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.

I never wanted Wilkins, he looks like a classic example of the portal overrating a kid from a fairly weak mid-major conference. His advanced numbers stink and he's rail thin. There's a reason he's the only guy who wants to play for Mark Pope, he'll get his scoring numbers and my guess is there won't be all that much winning.
Wilkins doesn't defend a lick either. UK will stink, Pope will be out. I thought Pope might have been a decent hire, but boy you have to have some stones to coach under that fanbase.

The remaining moves will be interesting and a look into how the staff is thinking. Curious whether they go grab a shooting 4. The kid from StM brings good size, shoots it at 84% from the FT line, 33%.
 
I still think we pick up a wing starter.

Ross does a lot well, but him Nik and Hines are three guys who haven’t shown they can score yet. And I’m sure they’ll all take leaps to some degree. Landrew seems like a day one contributor, but still a freshman. I’m as high on Mullins as anyone, but feels irresponsible to put this much on him and Silas shoulders.

So I think we will add a guy who averaged double digits last year.
 
We need to get bigger. Some of the need to get bigger is/was negated when we thought we were returning one of the best scoring guards in the nation who would have his shooting back on track with a healed wrist. That has changed, I'm sure Hurley and staff have been preparing for this. Thrusting Landrew into the starting lineup or expecting Ross to increase his scoring average by 175% as a starter doesn't seem like the way to go. We need to get bigger or we need to score the ball, with this news and the current roster we are in this in between thing where we're neither big enough or have enough scoring punch. It isn't ideal for a team with designs to win the whole thing. I expect Hurley and staff to change that.

Also, if you're expecting Landrew to be Castle defensively I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.

I never wanted Wilkins, he looks like a classic example of the portal overrating a kid from a fairly weak mid-major conference. His advanced numbers stink and he's rail thin. There's a reason he's the only guy who wants to play for Mark Pope, he'll get his scoring numbers and my guess is there won't be all that much winning.
We got bigger by subtracting Ball and playing Mullins at the 2. Landrew and Ross are both bigger than Mullins and Mullins is bigger than Ball. Nik can hopefully gain 10 pounds and match Karaban. Hines is a little shorter than Reed, but just as bulky. We certainly need another 5 and another backup 4. I do not want Landrew at the 4 as some are suggesting.

I think there's plenty of shooting and scoring. Offense isn't a concern at all. This lineup is better defensively and on the boards than last year's. Better inside scoring potential at both forward spot Ross was getting 8-10 a game when playing decent minutes and I think we are fine if we get 16 a game combined from Ross/Landrew. Mullins averaged 12 and that will jump to 18. Nik can match the 14 Karaban gave us. We need Hines to be even 80% of Reed and that's my biggest concern with the roster. Center is the only position where we downgraded. The guy being asked to really step up is Hines.

I know we disagree about this, but Mullins was a defensive problem at the 3 because he couldn't cover the paint adequately when we hedged and he got overpowered regularly. Also led to some foul trouble. Ball was a defensive liability because he couldn't stay in front of anyone. Both positions significantly upgraded defensively now. Nik is a better facilitator than AK (if not as good a shooter). Mullins is a better facilitator than Ball. The offense will work more like it did in the past. Last year we dribbled too much and lacked facilitators until Mullins started to get better at it.
 
We got bigger by subtracting Ball and playing Mullins at the 2. Landrew and Ross are both bigger than Mullins and Mullins is bigger than Ball. Nik can hopefully gain 10 pounds and match Karaban. Hines is a little shorter than Reed, but just as bulky. We certainly need another 5 and another backup 4. I do not want Landrew at the 4 as some are suggesting.

I think there's plenty of shooting and scoring. Offense isn't a concern at all. This lineup is better defensively and on the boards than last year's. Better inside scoring potential at both forward spot Ross was getting 8-10 a game when playing decent minutes and I think we are fine if we get 16 a game combined from Ross/Landrew. Mullins averaged 12 and that will jump to 18. Nik can match the 14 Karaban gave us. We need Hines to be even 80% of Reed and that's my biggest concern with the roster. Center is the only position where we downgraded. The guy being asked to really step up is Hines.

I know we disagree about this, but Mullins was a defensive problem at the 3 because he couldn't cover the paint adequately when we hedged and he got overpowered regularly. Also led to some foul trouble. Ball was a defensive liability because he couldn't stay in front of anyone. Both positions significantly upgraded defensively now. Nik is a better facilitator than AK (if not as good a shooter). Mullins is a better facilitator than Ball. The offense will work more like it did in the past. Last year we dribbled too much and lacked facilitators until Mullins started to get better at it.
Yeah, we disagree. Of course offense is a concern with what we have returning right now. That's why Hurley and staff aren't close to finished constructing this team.

We lost 41 ppg with our three starters gone from this season and 45 ppg of our NCAA tournament scoring gone with those three starters. So far we've replaced them with two starters who averaged 6.5 ppg and 5.7 ppg and you want that third starter to be Jayden Ross who averaged 4.6 ppg on the season 4.0 ppg in over 20 minutes per game in the 6 NCAA tournament games or by Landrew who doesn't have the rep of our past three star freshmen. No thanks. I don't think Hurley sees it that way either.
 
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How I see next years lineup playing out scoring wise.

Silas = 2024 Newton 15.1 PPG
Mullins = 2021 Bouknight 19 PPG
Ross = better 2023 Andre Jackson (scoring wise) 8-10 PPG
Nik = 2024 Karaban 13 PPG
Hines = 2020 Whaley 8-10 PPG

Going to leave the freshman bench numbers alone. A lot of factors there. But that’s the type of scoring output I’d expect out of the projected starters currently.
 
his penetration many times resulted in not being able to finish and falling to the floor
seth meyers lol GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
 
Too bad. As I said before one of them will. By January Landrew will be major impact player. We started freshman at the three each of the last 3 years. What’s the issue?
Jayden will get Senior respect starts early on, and if Landrew is what many suspect, Jayden will become a 6th man swiss army knife.
 
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