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You know, I really do not know Amari and I do not know why Geno parks her on the end bof the bench, but I can see that she has been relegated to obscurity as Geno has done to many of his recruits of the past. She is an adult and should act responsibly on a scholarship and Geno should actively cultivate her skills. I do not know why she could not be really used where her skills and size really are positive for this team. Every year so much waste. It is shameful.
The coaching staff sees her in practice as well as in the games. She has had numerous opportunities to help the team and she hasn't shown much. My guess is that she hasn't demonstrated or doesn't have either the skills or the attitude to be a meaningful contributor and that is why her PT is so limited.
 
You can’t teach height, but you can all the rest. Bigs take time, Amari is taking her time. Leave her alone!
That is ridiculous. How much time do the coaches need to teach basic skills? Geno says that they don’t coach effort at UConn. Amari is an adult with years in the UConn system, so fair expectations are warranted. I played a D-1 sport and never thought for a second that my scholarship was for being a good person or team-mate.
 
You answered your own question. If she proves to be ready, she will play! If not……
I can't believe she has not improved in three years at Uconn, some of the blame has to go to the coaching or lack their of. She seems pretty athletic but has not improved at all.
 
If DeBerry was half of Kiah Stokes this UConn team would be a different team. Stokes has always been a great defender, shotblocker and learned to rebound well. She was a liability offensively when teams decided not guard her and doubled everyone else.

DeBerry has not shown offensive or defensive. Geno called her one of the most skilled bigs he's seen in a while and in hindsight I believe he was trying to build her confidence because Piath Gabriel gave UConn more than what Deberry is giving.
Then we need a recruiter for Bigs since we have failed on that. We have done a poor job recruiting bigs.
 
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People are not recruited at UConn to act as team social director. If this was in Amari's mind she should have gone elsewhere ... very elsewhere.
You know that Geno isn’t obligated to keep players on the team, right? Obviously she has value in his mind or he would have told her (subtly or not so) to go somewhere else. Geno recruits players who will be good TEAMMATES first and foremost.
 
That is ridiculous. How much time do the coaches need to teach basic skills? Geno says that they don’t coach effort at UConn. Amari is an adult with years in the UConn system, so fair expectations are warranted. I played a D-1 sport and never thought for a second that my scholarship was for being a good person or team-mate.
A few times, Geno has mentioned that there are quite a few skills that players have not been taught due to the proliferation of AAU games, where there's little practicing and mostly games. So, when they get to UConn, there are times where the skills have to be taught.
 
A disservice in the sense that I’m sure the intention when recruiting her wasn’t to be a bench player and would assume she had other aspirations as well. If she and the team are happy with the role she plays for the team the that’s great! I see glimpses of good basketball when she does get some time, just wish I could see more.
I wish I was watching the same games you apparently are. I can't recall the opponent but within a minute of Amari entering the game, she had thrown the ball directly to the other team -- TWICE. I'm certain that Geno would play her, particularly given our lack of height, if he had ANY trust in her game. The fact that she is the last of the bench and only in the depth of garbage time speaks with absolute clarity, unfortunately.
 
Liv's natural position when she was recruited wasn't a 5. She played the 5 out of necessity. I didn't use the term "random". You did. Basketball is a game of matchups. Sometimes you need a big body. They don't need to be uber athletic to be effective in the right condition against the right team. Czinano wasn't athletic, but effective. Big T wasn't uber athletic. Ayoko Lee isn't athletic. What they have in common is rebounding. They present second chance opportunities. They block shots at the rim. Yes. UCONN has had injuries, but guards aren't the issue these past few years. Rebounding is the problem. You can have all the athletic guards in the world, but if you can't get clean rebounds you will be playing a lot more in the half court against set defenses.
Liv was a natural 5 for College for UCONN. She was not recruited as a primary 4.

And DOrka was also a big body. And if Edwards and ICE aren't "space-eaters" in terms of body type when it comes to rebounds, then what is?

As far as Liv and Edwards, in Liv's sr year the Indiana coach spoke of her surprise how physical UCONN was. Tara V spoke of how UCONN was physical inside. UCON got to finals despite all the injuries and were physical team with size. In Liv's jr year, UCONN lost two games. One was to Arkansas, and the other was to Arizona. Hardly teams with size and space eaters more of note than UCONN's. On the flip side that year UCONN beta the bigger teams with space eaters South Carolina and Baylor. .

And I disagree that guards haven’t been a big issue – they have been with injury the past few years. OF they have been. UCONN lost the best guard in all of WCBB last year. Plus Azzi was hurt. When you speak of matchup’s - exactly what UCONN was anticipation that they were going to use their matchups at the guard positions in which both Paige and Azzi were highlighted as "generational." That was the UCONN matchup and injuries have destroyed all that. UCON's strength was going to come from elite perimeter play from more than 1 player. Thos slower bigs would never have been able to defend UCONN's offense if not for injury other than a random offnite game. Which even SC loses to Iowa has shown on the other side can happen.
 
Then we need a recruiter for Bigs since we have failed on that. We have done a poor job recruiting bigs.
You must have posted this a dozen times and I’m pretty tired of it. You’re basically a men’s board poster and it shows - you don’t follow or know much about recruiting in the women’s game. Unlike the men, 6-4, 6-5 players are rare. Look at the list below and tell me how many are available. Geno could recruit outside the top 50, and he has, but unlike the men, there’s a pretty significant drop off in talent at a certain point.

And Geno’s had several bigs that appeared to be locked up but negative recruiting, a parent’s preference for another school, or some other factors have interfered. Most famously, Brittany Hunter wanted to come to UConn years ago but she was 17 when she signed her LOI so she needed a parent’s signature. Step-dad wanted Duke so she went there instead.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes people never see. Geno doesn’t ignore bigs. It’s not like he can order a kid to come to UConn. Geez.

Of the below list, Brynn McGaughy is a recruit as are 6-5 Layla Hayes, 6-3 Lara Somfai and 6-2 Ayla McDowell. There’s a list post at the top of the board

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Very rarely has she done anything positive for the team when she has been on the court. It may be sad, but that’s the way it is. Her treatment has been fair, certainly not shameful.
I thought she played okay last season when Cd was running the team during Geno's illness. Some players respond differently to the way a coach approaches their coaching and I sense that Geno has a way about him that doesn't help Amari be confident and her best. The same can be said about the way Amari plays or practices. She might do things exactly the opposite of what is expected from Geno.

My comment isn't to blame one or the other but rather to shed light on the challenges of coaching high achieving female athletes. Typically you identify the differences in recruiting but sometime you just end up with the oil and water.
 
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To add to your points it is interesting that many of the arguments for using Amari are we need a true 5, saying we are using 4's at the 5 or IMO maybe 4/5 types. The way Amari plays isn't very similar to a 5 or a post player at all. She may be 6-6 but as Husky Nan points out she is passive in the paint and not a good rebounder. The stats back up that opinion. Amari has played enough minutes in her career here that her rebounds per minute are a pretty good judge, and she rebounds at a pace that would be most like a 3 or SF, not a 5, C or 6-6 player.

I know players see traits that give them more hope, but rebounding is not one of them. She doesn't like banging in the post, and thus far has not been able to score effectively right around the hoop.

I see passing ability, but also the excessive turnovers that prevent that from being an asset. I see shot blocking ability, but once again with an excessive number of fouls to the point that she neutralizes that potential asset as well. One of the male practice players said she can really shoot, but that doesn't show up yet in the stats, and she will always be less efficient than she could have been because she doesn't power up for easy shots close to the basket.

Anyway Husky Nan is spot on regarding rebounding, passivity, drifting to the perimeter, and not being what the Huskies need, and may be correct as well that she might struggle doing things that don't come naturally for her.
I'm not disagreeing with anyone but I do think Amari has to be TOLD exactly what is expected of her and she might do it. She is not going to figure it out on her own. The one thing she is that no other player is on the team is 6'6 with really long arms. I don't know if she is a solution for anything but they have no one else even close to her length on the bench and eventually they will need a tall person to play minutes to win a game.

UCLA will give them a small taste of how well they can handle size and I hope the coaches are paying attention because other teams are way taller across the starting 5.
 
You know that Geno isn’t obligated to keep players on the team, right? Obviously she has value in his mind or he would have told her (subtly or not so) to go somewhere else. Geno recruits players who will be good TEAMMATES first and foremost.
I agree with you in part. Though I will say there are other top 20 coaches who make a religion of pushing bench players out the door. I feel that Geno has to be pushed to do it. Understand, I am not expressing anger or even disappointment about Amari and I don''t see her leaving. I disagree about recruitment priority. Number 1 has to be talent and number 2 is very good attitude, which includes being a good team mate.
 
I'm not disagreeing with anyone but I do think Amari has to be TOLD exactly what is expected of her and she might do it. She is not going to figure it out on her own. The one thing she is that no other player is on the team is 6'6 with really long arms. I don't know if she is a solution for anything but they have no one else even close to her length on the bench and eventually they will need a tall person to play minutes to win a game.

UCLA will give them a small taste of how well they can handle size and I hope the coaches are paying attention because other teams are way taller across the starting 5.
How long have you been following UConn? You actually think that Auriemma, of all people, hasn't told DeBerry exactly what's expected of her? That probably happened around the 2nd week of practice her freshman year if not before. She knows EXACTLY what's expected. Being 6-5 with long arms doesn't mean anything if she plays 6-1. And that's her problem, she's not athletic or quick enough to play 6-1 inside and doesn't have the perimeter skills to play outside. You're deluding yourself if you think she does because the whole coaching staff including Dailey knows she doesn't.
 
Liv was a natural 5 for College for UCONN. She was not recruited as a primary 4.

And DOrka was also a big body. And if Edwards and ICE aren't "space-eaters" in terms of body type when it comes to rebounds, then what is?

As far as Liv and Edwards, in Liv's sr year the Indiana coach spoke of her surprise how physical UCONN was. Tara V spoke of how UCONN was physical inside. UCON got to finals despite all the injuries and were physical team with size. In Liv's jr year, UCONN lost two games. One was to Arkansas, and the other was to Arizona. Hardly teams with size and space eaters more of note than UCONN's. On the flip side that year UCONN beta the bigger teams with space eaters South Carolina and Baylor. .

And I disagree that guards haven’t been a big issue – they have been with injury the past few years. OF they have been. UCONN lost the best guard in all of WCBB last year. Plus Azzi was hurt. When you speak of matchup’s - exactly what UCONN was anticipation that they were going to use their matchups at the guard positions in which both Paige and Azzi were highlighted as "generational." That was the UCONN matchup and injuries have destroyed all that. UCON's strength was going to come from elite perimeter play from more than 1 player. Thos slower bigs would never have been able to defend UCONN's offense if not for injury other than a random offnite game. Which even SC loses to Iowa has shown on the other side can happen.
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Well she will hopefully get a degree .. cause she isn’t gonna contribute to basketball unless it’s meaningless time
Half of your posting ,at least hopefully true, graduation, degree. The second half --as factually as you state it--has no facts to it at all. Human's, my study, are amazing creatures, extremely few are totally predictable. There are 5 humans that are part of your second half--Ameri is one. One thing seems evident: Without a decent level of minutes against a decent level of competition her improvement won't succeed as hoped. You learn plays, you learn fundamental IN PRACTICE--but you learn the game playing the game--against real women competition. Yes, the male practice players help--which proves my point--even UC coaches realize the need of game time exposure.
 
Have you not seen her play before..Geno played her 5 minutes against Dayton and she had 3 to's..She is clueless out there and hurts them on both ends of the court.Just because she is 6'6" does not mean she can play basketball..People asked Geno why he had Piath on the team a couple of years ago and he said because she is 6'5"..when they are that tall you take a chance and hope they can develop unfortunately this hasn't happened..it's tough to watch when she is in the game,she has no idea about offensive sets and even worse on defense..if she was 8' tall it would'nt matter she can't play not even a little
I cannot contradict what you say. Have you made a speech in front of an audience of 20 or 500--. In 20 years of facing 30 or so classes per year--the first HOUR of each class--I was a bit shaky. How long does it take for Ameri to settle down? The Boneyard has had many discussions about her and she knows it. She knows what you write here. EXPECTATIONS--- from you, me, coach 40,000 TV fans, and 16000 at the Civic Center all know what is said here. Ameri knows that---and her Expectations exceed yours--How WOULD anyone reading this react--would you be perfect--certainly I WOULD--(not on your life), would you fumble, rush, miss a step--cuz--40,000 and COACH IS WATCHING-- Could you handle the pressure she feels. Give the the Courage Award--she's earned it.
She is so much more than Basketball!
 
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Kia had two great characteristics, hustle and most importantly for a center - good hands.
I loved watching Stokes come into her own her jr and sr years.

My best memory was after a game where she scored more than her norm and in the post-game comments dead panned how Geno had her in the game for her deadly shooting. Might have been the 2014 semis against Stanford when she scored 9.

If I remember correctly, she hardly ever took shots but she rarely missed.
 
You know that Geno isn’t obligated to keep players on the team, right? Obviously she has value in his mind or he would have told her (subtly or not so) to go somewhere else. Geno recruits players who will be good TEAMMATES first and foremost.
There are players who have chosen to leave but I can never remember of having reported a player Geno kicked off the team. I can remember him awarding scholarships to players who were "practice players" after their first year. I have never heard anyone accuse Amari of being a "bad teammate".Like I have said before, it doesn't matter if you can throw a baseball at 100mph if you can't hit the plate. And it doesn't matter if you are 6'5" if someone 6' can outrebound you.
 
I've been seeing a lack of development in players at UConn over the last 10 years or so. You used to see players come in with limitations, work on those limitations and become valuable contributors over time. That's become much less of a "thing".
You mean all the player's that have made the WNBA - never got much betterfrom frosh to sr years?
 
Let's see if she gets any PT against UCLA & Kansas which are played 2 days in a row.
She can block shots.
Each team has a superbig & she can try to help slow them down.
A rhetorical question.
 
I might as well say it because no one else will. The coaching staff has misused DeBerry. She has some talent. The staff hasn't figured out how to use that talent. Can she be an adequate post player? She has to be taught how to play the post. Maybe, she can only make a unique style of post play. But we need the rebounding and even the potential of shot blocking.
 
I loved watching Stokes come into her own her jr and sr years.

My best memory was after a game where she scored more than her norm and in the post-game comments dead panned how Geno had her in the game for her deadly shooting. Might have been the 2014 semis against Stanford when she scored 9.

If I remember correctly, she hardly ever took shots but she rarely missed.
There is a reason so many of the teams she plays for win championships. Elite defender, shotblocker, and rebounder.
 
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Someone please shed some light on this situation. She is a Junior. Does not get any minutes and when she does, it’s at the end of the game for 45 seconds with Ines. She dealt with some injuries appropriately last season which is understandable, but this season she is healthy 6’6” sitting on the bench on a team that lacks rebounding and size. I understand Geno and the UConn program in regards to needing to have his trust and confidence to perform In the game, but at this point I it’s just a disservice to both her and the program for her to just be a body for practice. I hope she can turn it around or the coaching staff chooses to give her a shot soon. Again, these are my personal feelings but would like to hear what you all think.
I recall Geno saying more than once how he looks for a player to make a jump from their freshman to sophomore years where things click. I don't think Amari has made that jump. I don't know that she's going to... She's got height and can shoot 3's, but IMO she's an overall defensive liability and not going to get any meaningful minutes unless he's desperate. Sorry!
 
After Jana's injury this summer, I was really surprised Geno didnt bring in a Big from the portal. Just a serviceable Big that can take up space, rebound and play some good defense. Didnt really need to be a scoring threat. We need another "Dorka" on this team. When the coaches say we are undersized, that is a huge admission. At this point, I dont think anyone is betting Amari will fill this slot. Geno really rolling the dice that AE, Ice, and Patterson will be enough size and toughness...Not feeling good.
 
I've been seeing a lack of development in players at UConn over the last 10 years or so. You used to see players come in with limitations, work on those limitations and become valuable contributors over time. That's become much less of a "thing".
I must’ve been watching a different team over that time because most of the players I watched showed extraordinary growth on and off the court.
 
There was a time before fab freshman where many players would not be any good and suddenly their senior league it clicked. Hopefully it clicks basketball wise eventually and if not she has an education that will help her get it done outside basketball.
 
Liv's natural position when she was recruited wasn't a 5. She played the 5 out of necessity. I didn't use the term "random". You did. Basketball is a game of matchups. Sometimes you need a big body. They don't need to be uber athletic to be effective in the right condition against the right team. Czinano wasn't athletic, but effective. Big T wasn't uber athletic. Ayoko Lee isn't athletic. What they have in common is rebounding. They present second chance opportunities. They block shots at the rim. Yes. UCONN has had injuries, but guards aren't the issue these past few years. Rebounding is the problem. You can have all the athletic guards in the world, but if you can't get clean rebounds you will be playing a lot more in the half court against set defenses.
Last year it was all lack of more than one reliable ballhandler.
 
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