Whaley/Polley/Carlton Watch

[7774]

Polley is a 40% 3 shooter. Yeah we don’t need that..

Yeah, he was all the years except this one, where he was bad. So like I said, you’re hoping he gets back to his pre injury form. It’s comical to choose that over a year of Whaley.

 

[CL82]

We didn't talk about players transferring out. Putting aside that that rule made sense 15 years ago but probably no longer does, we're not talking about players transferring out. We're talking about whether college graduates come back for an extra year.

Respectfully, that’s a distinction without a difference. We’re talking about kids who have eligibility and then saying well I don’t want kid X or kid Y back. I get it there’s wiggle room for saying that that is allowed. I still think it’s a crappy thing to do. But hey you do you.

 

[HuskyHawk]

5

they didn’t run anything for him . And he was 2-5

And was horrific on defense. And didn‘t rebound. He’s really the one guy I don’t want back because he is so limited.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Respectfully, that’s a distinction without a difference. We’re talking about kids who have eligibility and then saying well I don’t want kid X or kid Y back. I get it there’s wiggle room for saying that that is allowed. I still think it’s a crappy thing to do. But hey you do you.

The rule, as I understand it, was that it was off limits during the season but fair game off season. In this case I agree with BL anyway. The question would be around Adams, who is also graduating.

 

[BlueDogs]

Time to pass the torch. We need some shooters and scorers.

 

[Chief00]

We need to obtain 2 more shooters/scorers for next season and give them plenty of playing time. Cole isn’t really a pg who sets up shooters and that will frustrate some guys when they don’t get the ball when they are open on their spot. But, today’s game is really equally about quick ball movement and hopefully putting that weave to bed.

 

[jdb50]

We need 3 point shooters that make them. Watch the Bama game. We are way behind the times on offense bigtime.

 

[HuskyHawk]

We need to obtain 2 more shooters/scorers for next season and give them plenty of playing time. Cole isn’t really a pg who sets up shooters and that will frustrate some guys when they don’t get the ball when they are open on their spot. But, today’s game is really equally about quick ball movement and hopefully putting that weave to bed.

Sure, but guys who can score off motion or off the dribble. Not set shooters like Polley. In short, dynamic players. I think Gaffney can be that.

 

[Peacefrog]

it's not nearly good enough. we need a volume 40% 3 pt shooter at stretch 4 since our other two forwards are aj and sanogo. those two plus whaley = the worst shooting frontcourt in the BE by a mile.

apparently we still wont accept the fact that the only way to get better is with shooters!

Perhaps you didn't read the rest of my post but having Whaley back and improving our 3-point shooting are not mutually exclusive events. Nobody is questioning that we need another one if not two shooters but if the defensive player of the year wants to come back he'll have a spot on the roster and will see plenty of court time.

 

[auror]

We need to obtain 2 more shooters/scorers for next season and give them plenty of playing time. Cole isn’t really a pg who sets up shooters and that will frustrate some guys when they don’t get the ball when they are open on their spot. But, today’s game is really equally about quick ball movement and hopefully putting that weave to bed.

Agree about quick ball movement.

Need to penetrate, have guys relocate off ball, and kick out to shooters. Anticipate D rotation and beat the rotation with the skip pass or look off dump.

 

[businesslawyer]

Respectfully, that’s a distinction without a difference. We’re talking about kids who have eligibility and then saying well I don’t want kid X or kid Y back. I get it there’s wiggle room for saying that that is allowed. I still think it’s a crappy thing to do. But hey you do you.

I didn’t talk about them leaving. But sure — attack me for what I don’t say and say that is me being me.

 

[CL82]

I didn’t talk about them leaving. But sure — attack me for what I don’t say and say that is me being me.

I didn’t attack you, I just told you my opinion which differs from yours.

 

[Hoophound]

I’d like to bring in Fatts and keep Whaley. I’d also like a 6’5” sharpshooter hat can find his own shot now and then.

Polley and Carlton are both useful, but Whaley is a beast.

 

[superjohn]

Sure, but guys who can score off motion or off the dribble. Not set shooters like Polley. In short, dynamic players. I think Gaffney can be that.

I've never seen someone hype a guy for going 2-5 from three while doing absolutely nothing else the way August is hyping Polley. There were some stretches Polley looked like a true sharpshooter in the past couple of years but he never sustained it, Cole and Gaffney both shot a better percentage from three than him this season and Polley unfortunately does nothing other than shoot threes.

 

[bendm]

Perhaps you didn't read the rest of my post but having Whaley back and improving our 3-point shooting are not mutually exclusive events. Nobody is questioning that we need another one if not two shooters but if the defensive player of the year wants to come back he'll have a spot on the roster and will see plenty of court time.

i disagree- having whaley return as our starting PF and not having the worst shooting frontcourt in the BE is indeed mutually exclusive.

as i said in another post, if whaley is happy with being sanogo's backup then by all means welcome back, but i doubt he'd agree to that role when he could be the starting C on another p6 team

 

[Chief00]

Sure, but guys who can score off motion or off the dribble. Not set shooters like Polley. In short, dynamic players. I think Gaffney can be that.

I would like a pure shooter and a scorer type. I like Gaffney too but next year will be his opportunity to produce consistently over a season. His 83% FT is something I like to see. I think it can go higher too.

 

[UconnU]

Give me Whaley back. He feeds off the fans more than any player I’ve ever seen. He needs one more shot with fans.

 

[uconnbill]

I love me some Whaley, but UConn needs another shooter or two. After watching the NCAA tourney you need a couple of players who can shoot the 3. Athletes are good but you need shooters too

 

[DICKG]

From Borges’ latest article:

Expect a slow trickle of announcements over the coming days/weeks on what UConn players may return for next season. It’s not out of the realm that a senior or two could return under the NCAA’s COVID-influenced guidelines that give them one extra year of eligibility.

Is there a date when they have to decide?

 

[Salty Dog]

Having any of the three back would be fine. It wouldn't take up any scholarships and could make our team much deeper / insulated from injury. It could also make practices more intense. As long as they earn their minutes and aren't given any kind of special treatment for returning, I can't see how it would hurt.

 

[AdamaNation]

Well, if Hurley asks any of them back, he essentially is admitting there is a role for them in his system. They can officially transition over to being a Hurley guy. If he doesn’t see a fit, he won’t be sentimental.

Guys they are all Hurley guys at this point anyways. They played one season for ollie for the love of all that is holy. Dan has coached them for 3 years now. No one knows the culture more than them.

 

[UCfor3]

Whaley: Yes if he is ok playing backup Center to Sanogo and not starting PF. We need defensive versatility in our backup Center against the 5 out teams. He offers that. With that said, we need a stretch 4 type to start at PF(hopefully Akok). Our offense is too paltry in the shooting dept for another year of both Sanogo and Whaley starting
Polley: While we need shooting, I would prefer multiple transfers for that role that offer more than just the occassional hot game. A shooter that can perhaps also help in other areas like defense, rebounding, passing, ability to break a guy down, etc...also someone that consistently has better shooting games. I'm not saying I wouldn't be happy to have him back. Just think we can and need to do better in this area. What will we do without HuskyMagic asking for a Polley takeover every 3rd comment in the chat? I think Gaffney is his new Huckleberry
Carlton: Only if Whaley doesn't return and he is willing to accept a pure backup role to Adama.

 

[metsfan2323]

I love me some Whaley, but UConn needs another shooter or two. After watching the NCAA tourney you need a couple of players who can shoot the 3. Athletes are good but you need shooters too

Maybe Whaley comes back next year with a better 3 point shot / mid range game. His shot has definitely improved each season he has been here.

 

[Chief00]

Maybe Whaley comes back next year with a better 3 point shot / mid range game. His shot has definitely improved each season he has been here.

I am all for IW coming back but not to be our 3 guy. I know with a couple of bank shots added in his 3 percentage with low volume is surprisingly good - but with a higher volume, IW would revert back to the mean.

 

[Kenny11]

Give me Whaley back. He feeds off the fans more than any player I’ve ever seen. He needs one more shot with fans.

Hell yeah. Whaley + fans + females on campus = all conference player

 

[Hey Adrien!]

Hope for those who want multiple players back. First example reported so far. Two of those guys are starters.



But I get it, who wouldn't want another year of college in Burlington?

 

[8893]

If you are designing a Whaley/Polley/Carlton watch, do you put Polley at the 12 for his number, or at the 3 for his expected contribution of shooting 3s?

Once you decide that, then you figure out where to put Whaley and Carlton.

 

[BrysonDeMan]

Hope for those who want multiple players back. First example reported so far. Two of those guys are starters.



But I get it, who wouldn't want another year of college in Burlington?

the level of talent in college hoops next year is going to be unbelievable .... both mid-majors and P5 teams

 

[dennismenace]

I wonder if they all have enough credits to graduate. If not, why not play while finishing up. If so, there's grad school. I'm not overly confident about next year's roster having these three bigs leave at the same time. I understand it's time to move on but having just one stay could be a big boost with experience.

Whaley and Carlton are bigs. Polley is a catch and shoot wing or guard who is abnormally tall. He has never been a rebounder; our guards put him to shame in rebounding.

 

[Improviser]

No offense but that’s crazy. You’re basically hoping Polley reverts to his pre-injury form from three, because I think we can agree that the huge majority the time, Polley does very little besides make threes or be a threat to make threes.

He shot 35% this year, and that number is propped up by the Marquette/Butler/DePaul stretch when he was on complete fire. He shot 30% in the other 20 games. That‘s just straight up poor.

Obviously all the shots count, and he basically won us those 3 road games which was beyond huge for our tournament resume, so I don‘t discount the value. I‘d just rather have a Brendan Adams if he’s going to shoot threes like Brendan Adams 85-90% of the time.

I think people are going to be very surprised how much our defense suffers from losing Whaley.

(One efficient new 3 point shooter)-(Polley and Adams) = net gain

Addition by subtraction