Westworld

[Mano]

To be fair, Maeve and Delores both got shot up quite a bit.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I enjoyed it, but I am not sure I am coming back for Season 4. There are too many plot holes, like Maeve's weird set of powers, that feel like magic to me. I do not like magic in plots because it makes everything that happened before the spell irrelevant. I feel that magic=hacking=sci fi time travel when it comes to plot devices that substitute for story-telling.

I was also surprised at how cheap some of the riot scenes looked in Season 3. Westworld is a flagship show for HBO, so they shouldn't be cutting corners on scenes that just require a bunch of extras in LA. Extras are pretty easy to find in LA. Watch an episode like Watchers on the Wall in Game of Thrones, where the manic energy of the battle is palpable in every second, and then look at the riot, where the set looks empty and the extras are going through the motions.

 

[storrsroars]

I enjoyed it, but I am not sure I am coming back for Season 4. There are too many plot holes, like Maeve's weird set of powers, that feel like magic to me. I do not like magic in plots because it makes everything that happened before the spell irrelevant. I feel that magic=hacking=sci fi time travel

Which is why GoT was not a gave of mine.

 

[ColchVEGAS]

Maybe I will have to give season 3 a chance. I really enjoyed season 1, then season 2 lost me. It just felt overly complicated and confusing, but for no good reason. I get the show premise requires attention throughout, but season 2 was brutal.

 

[Kolumbo]

So Season 4 won't come out until 2022. I logged off somewhere in season 2 so I am considering starting over and following it more closely. I was curious if people are looking forward to season 4 or is that too long a break to try to get back into it. Evan Rachel Wood was mentioned in the Recently Watched Movies 2021 thread - Kajillionaire which brought me back to Westworld, or did it.

 

[Kolumbo]

I was strong through nearly the end of season 2. Just watched episode 5 of season 3. I can't help it, I multitask, and I am lost. The music in this episode is great. And Dolores is simply spectacular.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I was strong through nearly the end of season 2. Just watched episode 5 of season 3. I can't help it, I multitask, and I am lost. The music in this episode is great. And Dolores is simply spectacular.

You cannot multitask with this show. You just can't. Even paying attention you may need to rewatch it, or read a post show analysis to catch everything. The third season is easier to follow. Dolores remains spectacular.

 

[Kolumbo]

You cannot multitask with this show. You just can't. Even paying attention you may need to rewatch it, or read a post show analysis to catch everything. The third season is easier to follow. Dolores remains spectacular.

I may have to restart season 3. Or 2. Next thing you know Francois Toulour, Jesse Pinkman, and some guy who looks like Booger from Revenge of the Nerds are in on the action while ADHD is creeping in.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Also - I don't like that much of the show is really loud - while the dialogue is soft - so if anything else is going on in the house I have to have the volume on 70. Seems to me they could have done a better job mixing it.

Not even watching the series (I checked out about halfway thru Season 1), but that is an epidemic these days. I notice that in so many movies. Why is it so hard to get the sound mixing right? Didn't used to be a problem.

 

[Kolumbo]

Not even watching the series (I checked out about halfway thru Season 1), but that is an epidemic these days. I notice that in so many movies. Why is it so hard to get the sound mixing right? Didn't used to be a problem.

I notice that The Avengers movies take a different tack. They'll put the loud explosions and stuff in the distance or background which adds a unique experience. At least that is what I noticed a few times, not sure if it's always the case. It also really bothers me when they mumble through important dialogue. Wahlberg is very hard to understand sometimes.

 

[nwhoopfan]

I notice that The Avengers movies take a different tack. They'll put the loud explosions and stuff in the distance or background which adds a unique experience. At least that is what I noticed a few times, not sure if it's always the case. It also really bothers me when they mumble through important dialogue. Wahlberg is very hard to understand sometimes.

Held off on watching the Pitch Meeting for Tenet until I finally saw it recently. Does a clever job of spoofing/pointing out how frustrating it is when the background music swells to a crescendo and totally drowns out the dialogue as we are getting what seems like critical exposition, that you can't even hear. That movie may have had the worst sound mixing I've experienced yet.

 

[August_West]

Not even watching the series (I checked out about halfway thru Season 1), but that is an epidemic these days. I notice that in so many movies. Why is it so hard to get the sound mixing right? Didn't used to be a problem.

What’s your home theater setup? I don’t mean that as an insult. It’s to illustrate a point , they are mixing stuff now for 7.1 surround , without 5.1 minimum yeah the mixes sound like crap and unbalanced. Especially if you own a sound bar which is the greatest rip off in the 2-800 dollar range tgat exists in the retail space . I say this as someone with 7.1 in one room and a sound bar + sub in other . The tv with the sound bar is almost unwatchable for exactly what you and who you replied to describe. In my 7.1 I can still hear low volume when I do t want crash bang boom and it’s even.

 

[Kolumbo]

What’s your home theater setup? I don’t mean that as an insult. It’s to illustrate a point , they are mixing stuff now for 7.1 surround , without 5.1 minimum yeah the mixes sound like crap and unbalanced. Especially if you own a sound bar which is the greatest rip off in the 2-800 dollar range tgat exists in the retail space . I say this as someone with 7.1 in one room and a sound bar + sub in other . The tv with the sound bar is almost unwatchable for exactly what you and who you replied to describe. In my 7.1 I can still hear low volume when I do t want crash bang boom and it’s even.

7.1, 7.2, whatever it takes.

I fail on all home theater setup angles, although I have recently mounted a couple large screen tv's on adjustable wall mounting brackets. Drilled right into the studs. We use the tv speakers but I am thinking about getting some type of headphone setup because I tend to watch late night when everyone else is sleeping so if you have any recommendations. . .

 

[nwhoopfan]

What’s your home theater setup? I don’t mean that as an insult. It’s to illustrate a point , they are mixing stuff now for 7.1 surround , without 5.1 minimum yeah the mixes sound like crap and unbalanced. Especially if you own a sound bar which is the greatest rip off in the 2-800 dollar range tgat exists in the retail space . I say this as someone with 7.1 in one room and a sound bar + sub in other . The tv with the sound bar is almost unwatchable for exactly what you and who you replied to describe. In my 7.1 I can still hear low volume when I do t want crash bang boom and it’s even.

I looked up several discussions about this online. I don't have a sound setup, just the TV. So I guess that's my problem. It is, as I noted in some of these discussions, not usually a problem when I'm just watching something that is being broadcast on television vs. watching a DVD/Blu-ray. Also I haven't been to a theater in forever, but seems like even there where you'd think they'd have the sound system all set up correctly, there can be deafeningly loud sounds effects or music, and dialogue that is hard to hear.

 

[John]

I looked up several discussions about this online. I don't have a sound setup, just the TV. So I guess that's my problem. It is, as I noted in some of these discussions, not usually a problem when I'm just watching something that is being broadcast on television vs. watching a DVD/Blu-ray. Also I haven't been to a theater in forever, but seems like even there where you'd think they'd have the sound system all set up correctly, there can be deafeningly loud sounds effects or music, and dialogue that is hard to hear.

interested in this - so what type of setup do you recommend August? We just have the TV's audio right now.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I looked up several discussions about this online. I don't have a sound setup, just the TV. So I guess that's my problem. It is, as I noted in some of these discussions, not usually a problem when I'm just watching something that is being broadcast on television vs. watching a DVD/Blu-ray. Also I haven't been to a theater in forever, but seems like even there where you'd think they'd have the sound system all set up correctly, there can be deafeningly loud sounds effects or music, and dialogue that is hard to hear.

interested in this - so what type of setup do you recommend August? We just have the TV's audio right now.

At the bare minimum, people should have a soundbar based sound system.

In my home theater space, I've got everything feeding a receiver via HDMI, and a 5.1 setup with quality front bookshelf speakers, a good center channel speaker, and two surrounds mounted behind and the left and right. No subwoofer because my fronts produce good bass. I think you miss a lot watching movies with TV sound. If I watch Star Wars, I can hear a ship traveling diagonally, from back right to front left. The sound travels spatially around the room.

Understand not everyone has the space or funds for that. The current best set ups are quite a bit better than mine.

 

[J187Money]

What’s your home theater setup? I don’t mean that as an insult. It’s to illustrate a point , they are mixing stuff now for 7.1 surround , without 5.1 minimum yeah the mixes sound like crap and unbalanced. Especially if you own a sound bar which is the greatest rip off in the 2-800 dollar range tgat exists in the retail space . I say this as someone with 7.1 in one room and a sound bar + sub in other . The tv with the sound bar is almost unwatchable for exactly what you and who you replied to describe. In my 7.1 I can still hear low volume when I do t want crash bang boom and it’s even.

Most of the TV we watch is in our bedroom - with a fairly modern (2 year old) TV with no system. I'm moving in a couple of weeks and will probably do more work in the new house to improve it - but it is just annoying that you can't just watch TV without a home theater setup and get the sound right.

 

[J187Money]

At the bare minimum, people should have a soundbar based sound system.

In my home theater space, I've got everything feeding a receiver via HDMI, and a 5.1 setup with quality front bookshelf speakers, a good center channel speaker, and two surrounds mounted behind and the left and right. No subwoofer because my fronts produce good bass. I think you miss a lot watching movies with TV sound. If I watch Star Wars, I can hear a ship traveling diagonally, from back right to front left. The sound travels spatially around the room.

Understand not everyone has the space or funds for that. The current best set ups are quite a bit better than mine.

Agreed - but it isn't practical to have a home theater setup on 4-6 televisions, especially in bedrooms.

 

[Kolumbo]

I finally finished this abomination. I had to. I started it, so I had to finish it. For whatever reason, ADHD, boredom, the last 3 or 4 episodes took me about 2 weeks to get through. I'd watch, multi task because I was bored, rewind. Robots. The guy who is Beavis/Butthead/Billie Joe Armstrong/Jesse Pinkman. It all just coagulated into something entirely different from whence it started. OK. Robots. Pink Floyd. Old Ed Harris. Ugh. I hope they bail on this.