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Kemba Time said:
Ok, Mr. Style Points. If that’s how we’re doing it.

1999 was also an all-timer
2011 was the greatest 11-game run in the history of the sport
2014, UConn literally knocked out Nova on the way to the title
Oh, and in 2004, we had Emeka Okafor and Ben Gordon. They weren’t bad.

Advantage: UConn.
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You forgot the 2014 team that knocked VU out was also a #7 seed, 2nd lowest all time, which for head to head style points is equal to VU's #8 upset win. And had Napier trashing Mark Emmert. "Hungry Huskies". All time quote .
 
Frenemy said:
Fair point, allow me a rebuttal. 2 of our 3 are all timers, The 85 "perfect game" against Patrick Ewing and Georgetown to deny them back to back chips and the 2016 "Jenkins for the championship". I argue including style points, we're even, at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I'm also a biased Nova homer, so sue me.
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3 of 3 are all timers.
‘85 perfect game from the ultimate underdog, biggest upset all time
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
‘18 Best team of all time.
 
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Zissou said:
3 of 3 are all timers.
‘85 perfect game from the ultimate underdog, biggest upset all time
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
‘18 Best team of all time.
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Zissou said:
3 of 3 are all timers.
‘85 perfect game from the ultimate underdog, biggest upset all time
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
‘18 Best team of all time.
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No shot clock in 85 allowed Nova to play slow. Credit to the Wildcats for shooting lights out, though. Same for McClain's dealer, supplied him with top notch energized blow
 
UConnDad said:
Any brew pubs for some good stouts or porters?
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My beer destinations when I’m in Philly:

For more traditional styles, I suggest Human Robot, just northeast of Center City. Some of the best lagers on the east coast.

If you have the time and are willing to head to the near north suburbs, hit Forest & Main in Ambler.

Unlikely that you’ll find a porter on the tap list at the Philly location of Brooklyn’s Other Half, but you’ll drink some spectacular hazies, heavily adjuncted pastry stouts and maybe a lager or two. On Canal Street.
 
Zissou said:
3 of 3 are all timers.
‘85 perfect game from the ultimate underdog, biggest upset all time
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
‘18 Best team of all time.
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85 really was the biggest upset of all time. It was just so improbable. Incredible even as I watched it happen.

The rest are pretty ordinary, and a lot of teams, including UConn 99 and 04 would have taken the 2018 team out like smelly old trash. Indeed, the 85 Georgetown team would have destroyed them barring another miracle.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
85 really was the biggest upset of all time. It was just so improbable. Incredible even as I watched it happen.

The rest are pretty ordinary, and a lot of teams, including UConn 99 and 04 would have taken the 2018 team out like smelly old trash. Indeed, the 85 Georgetown team would have destroyed them barring another miracle.
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Name a bigger shot than Jenkins
 
Like smelly old trash? Come on now, the 18 Nova squad vs. either of those UConn teams would be fantastic games.
 
HuskyHawk said:
85 really was the biggest upset of all time. It was just so improbable. Incredible even as I watched it happen.

The rest are pretty ordinary, and a lot of teams, including UConn 99 and 04 would have taken the 2018 team out like smelly old trash. Indeed, the 85 Georgetown team would have destroyed them barring another miracle.
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I don't know about that. The Nova team in 2018 was legitimately nasty and ran roughshod over everyone in the tournament. They didn't play anyone nearly as good as UConn did with Duke in '99 and "04 but that team was stacked. Brunson, DiVincenzo, Bridges, Spellman, Paschall, Booth, Gillespie.

Teams like the Walton and Jabbar UCLA teams and Jordan at UNC are a different level than the UConn and Nova teams.
 
Zissou said:
3 of 3 are all timers.
‘85 perfect game from the ultimate underdog, biggest upset all time
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
‘18 Best team of all time.
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2018 Villanova isn’t even close to being the best team of all time. Hell they aren’t even in the top 5.

In no particular order… teams better than 18 Villanova

1999 UConn
2015 UK
1990 UNLV
2009 UNC
2008 Kansas
 
Bstop55 said:
2018 Villanova isn’t even close to being the best team of all time. Hell they aren’t even in the top 5.

In no particular order… teams better than 18 Villanova

1999 UConn
2015 UK
1990 UNLV
2009 UNC
2008 Kansas
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I’d throw the UF team out there also. Back to back and some real NBA talent.
 
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caw said:
I’d throw the UF team out there also. Back to back and some real NBA talent.
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That was a very good team. Nova was a legit 3peat threat with 2017. The NCAA made Spellman ineligible that year because of Nova self reporting his 8th grade transfer anomaly. Absolutely crazy ruling against the kid.
 
karstenkibbe said:
My beer destinations when I’m in Philly:

For more traditional styles, I suggest Human Robot, just northeast of Center City. Some of the best lagers on the east coast.

If you have the time and are willing to head to the near north suburbs, hit Forest & Main in Ambler.

Unlikely that you’ll find a porter on the tap list at the Philly location of Brooklyn’s Other Half, but you’ll drink some spectacular hazies, heavily adjuncted pastry stouts and maybe a lager or two. On Canal Street.
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Tired Hands in Ardmore
 
Waquoit said:
Philly is a great place to go for a weekend. Not that bad of a drive.
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Make sure your EZ-Pass is loaded up. I drove down for the game last year and couldn't figure out why my phone kept pinging. Turns out it was my account reloading. Over $80 in tolls round trip from Norwalk. Hadn't made that trip in 5-7 years, kind of shocked. For reference I round tripped to Buffalo over the summer (almost 3x the miles), tolls were less than $40.
 
Monks for Belgians if you're in the city. They have a bunch of Hill Farmstead and Russian River on tap at all times for IPA's. You can then just jump on SEPTA straight to Wells Fargo.

I haven't been yet but I've heard good things about Brewery ARS if you're looking for something closer.
 
2018 Nova is definitely up there, but this reminds me of the blue blood conversation, where everyone has their arbitrary standards for the label.

Side note, Bridges and Brunson are tearing it up this season, both look like they’ll be multi time all stars for the New York teams, fun stuff.
 
superjohn said:
I don't know about that. The Nova team in 2018 was legitimately nasty and ran roughshod over everyone in the tournament. They didn't play anyone nearly as good as UConn did with Duke in '99 and "04 but that team was stacked. Brunson, DiVincenzo, Bridges, Spellman, Paschall, Booth, Gillespie.

Teams like the Walton and Jabbar UCLA teams and Jordan at UNC are a different level than the UConn and Nova teams.
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No recent team can compare to the teams that played in the era when stars stayed in school. 2018 was a great team for this era.
 
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Zissou said:
And St Joes
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2 from the Big 5
2 from the SEC
And 1 each from Big Ten & Big 12, both of which can't count.
Zissou said:
Name a bigger shot than Jenkins
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Keith Smart gives a wave, secure enough to leave it there.

However, because '85 Nova over Georgetown already legitimizes a pre-shotclock era, and because the Jenkins shot already negates, "But it was a tie game and would have gone to overtime," I'll go with this Lorenzo Charles saying, "Hello."



PS - NC State was a 6-seed against overall #1 Houston, and an 8-point underdog (same as '85 Nova against Georgetown), noting, fwiw, that UConn was a 9.5-underdog against Duke in' '99.

And no, "Dereck Wittenberg' s assist is the greatest in NCAA Championship history" won't cut it.
 
Zissou said:
‘16 Jenkins, biggest shot of all time.
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I'd go with worst defense of a full court inbound play of all time. I think Roy Williams mind was already on the golf course. It was a well designed play that was poorly defended. UConn forgot to cover the inbounder bitd too. I can't type about it anymore because it still brings tears to my eyes. Some folks at NC St., Carolina, Indiana might argue on the biggest shot of all time. Just so you know I'm not trashing Nova I agree with you that the'85 championship game is the most amazing upset in NCAA championship history. Two Connecticut kids led the way.
 
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