Week 7 - NCAA Football

[nwhoopfan]

Maybe research what committed means then come back with the list of "a whole lot of other schools" you're talking about.

Well in college athletics, committed usually is directly tied to money. For facilities, for coaching staff, and these days for NIL. In that regard, a lot of schools have funneled more money into their football programs than Boise St. ever did.

If you are referring to cultivating a fundamentally strong and winning culture, I'm not sure if committed is really the word I would use to describe that.

Anyway to me Boise St. football is a bit like Gonzaga men's hoops. An unlikely rise to prominence for 2 programs that are from the same corner of the country. Kind of a lightning in a bottle situation, not easily replicated.

 

[TheDrifter75]

Well in college athletics, committed usually is directly tied to money. For facilities, for coaching staff, and these days for NIL. In that regard, a lot of schools have funneled more money into their football programs than Boise St. ever did.

If you are referring to cultivating a fundamentally strong and winning culture, I'm not sure if committed is really the word I would use to describe that.

Anyway to me Boise St. football is a bit like Gonzaga men's hoops. An unlikely rise to prominence for 2 programs that are from the same corner of the country. Kind of a lightning in a bottle situation, not easily replicated.

I feel you wanted a longer more nuanced answer. Being committed is all encompassing. It includes everything, every aspect of the program. With proper use of funds. But you see, I'm already bored and not committed to this conversation. For that reason, I'm out.

 

[HCCForever]

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This imbalance is bad enough for football where they use charter flights and only play once a week on weekends. The disadvantage may be more pronounced for other sports that rely on commercial travel.

 

[Kolumbo]

I don't really care about Ohio State but they were adversely affected by a penalty that Oregon had due to too many men on the field. They lost precious time as time ran off the clock.

They were talking about this on the Dan Patrick Show today and thought that this rule would be modified to put more time back on the clock for that type of scenario. Seems fair to me.

The problem with basketball and football in my opinion is that the clock has become too much of a focal point. I hate all these time-managing strategies. It seems to take away from just playing the game. Yes, time was wasted, but so many game decisions are designed around the clock anyway so it is what it is. I thought the 12-man thing may have been intentional and then I saw this:

 

[KryHavok]

The problem with basketball and football in my opinion is that the clock has become too much of a focal point. I hate all these time-managing strategies. It seems to take away from just playing the game. Yes, time was wasted, but so many game decisions are designed around the clock anyway so it is what it is. I thought the 12-man thing may have been intentional and then I saw this:

Was watching the end of the game and couldn't keep up with the chaos. Looks the buckeyes literally got ducking screwed by Lanning's ploy...love it.

 

[huskymedic]

Was watching the end of the game and couldn't keep up with the chaos. Looks the buckeyes literally got ducking screwed by Lanning's ploy...love it.

 

[KryHavok]

Isn't it ironic that the rules committee is only looking at this now that the sacred cow Buckeyes lost a close game cuz they were too stupid to manage a clock properly? Like The Body used to say:

Now had this happened to, let's say...UConn, oh well, I'm sure the rules committee would probably say the rules were properly enforced and don't need changing.

 

[Vowelguy]

Isn't it ironic that the rules committee is only looking at this now that the sacred cow Buckeyes lost a close game cuz they were too stupid to manage a clock properly? Like The Body used to say:

Now had this happened to, let's say...UConn, oh well, I'm sure the rules committee would probably say the rules were properly enforced and don't need changing.

They did not say the officials did anything wrong. (Because they didnt.)
It literally is a loophole -- legal but probably not intended. They're considering whether to close that loophole asap.

 

[KryHavok]

Yeah, I know what they did was technically within the rules, but this is only getting traction cuz it occurred with such a high profile team. Were that loophole used against a lower G5 team, do you think the rules committee would act so swiftly, methinks no.

 

[Vowelguy]

Yeah, I know what they did was technically within the rules, but this is only getting traction cuz it occurred with such a high profile team. Were that loophole used against a lower G5 team, do you think the rules committee would act so swiftly, methinks no.

Uhhh, if 10 million people were watching and it involved top 5 teams, yes.

 

[storrsroars]

Yeah, I know what they did was technically within the rules, but this is only getting traction cuz it occurred with such a high profile team. Were that loophole used against a lower G5 team, do you think the rules committee would act so swiftly, methinks no.

I don't know about G5, but compared to Oregon and tOSU, I wouldn't have called Pitt or Wake Forest "high profile" when Pickett broke out the fake slide. That got closed down pronto.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[DoctorWho85]

Missouri Valley clearly lays claim to the top conference in FCS, but I think Big Sky is pretty clearly #2.

Easily not even close. I know there's also talk of NDSU and SD moving up to FBS for the MW. I doubt anything came of it, but They're definitely good enough to make the jump. I go to ND and the NDSU fan base is rabid. They're pretty cool to hang out with too.

 

[huskymedic]

They did not say the officials did anything wrong. (Because they didnt.)
It literally is a loophole -- legal but probably not intended. They're considering whether to close that loophole asap.

 

[ScottVib]

Lanning playing 4D chess.. use the loophole, then brag about it, so no one can in turn do it to you after you've exposed it.

 

[HCCForever]

Lanning playing 4D chess.. use the loophole, then brag about it, so no one can in turn do it to you after you've exposed it.

Not sure why it took so long to close loophole. Rick Neuheisel talked about Arizona State using this loophole against UCLA. when Rick was at UCLA. This was years ago.

Obviously as others have stated it was due to a high-profile team (Ohio State) which was adversely affected by the loophole.

 

[ScottVib]

He didn't brag about it at the time... Coaches have used that (and other penalty timing related) loophole forever. It's Lanning bragging about it publicly that led to the change (he also did it much more obviously, as opposed to leaving any pretense it was "accidental")

 

[Vowelguy]

Obviously as others have stated it was due to a high-profile team (Ohio State) which was adversely affected by the loophole.

HIGH PROFILE GAME

Why is it shocking that a game watched by 10 million people and with loads of media attracts a lot of attention, gets greater scrutiny?

 

[DoctorWho85]

He didn't brag about it at the time... Coaches have used that (and other penalty timing related) loophole forever. It's Lanning bragging about it publicly that led to the change (he also did it much more obviously, as opposed to leaving any pretense it was "accidental")

Doing against Ohio St didn't help either. They're one of those schools that get favored in rule making by the NCAA