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We were better than them and found a way to lose.

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Improviser said:
Does anyone know if Hurley or the staff read the BY and look at these suggestions?

Now that he is not the coach, has anyone asked Calhoun if he read the BY? And if yes, what did he think of it?

What about Calhoun's immediate successor?
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Believe someone on the staff checks the BY occasionally. I hope like hell it's not for coaching advice
 
kemba said:
It's 2020. Highly rated freshmen play and play well all the time.

Regardless no one is calling for him to play 30+ minutes right now and he the #2 option, just when you have several guys out there playing big minutes and giving us nothing than Jackson should be playing more than 5.
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You have no disagreement from me. I just want to temper expectations for AJ this season. He’s a fr with an incredible but raw skill set.
 
Given that the defense was terrible for the first 11 minutes or so and Creighton moves well and shoots well, you can argue that the layoff hurt quite a bit and Creighton scored more early than they might have otherwise. Those points count. Obviously our O was pretty ugly. No Bouk, no chance to win. I thought Carlton gave them some decent minutes. Cole played very good D. He missed those potentially clinching foul shots, but I don’t mind him at the line late. Not an ideal point guard and shot selection is questionable. Missing Polley’s outside threat.

it can’t be easy to have so much time off and play a good team that’s been playing regularly and now the DePaul game is off. I reserve judgement on this team until they get to play a consistent schedule.
 
I honestly can't believe all the support of Cole here. I'm usually a positive guy when it comes to our games but this was atrocious. This was our we're back game and 2-13 on mostly open looks and those free throws is unacceptable from a guy who was supposed to be our second option. Assuming it happens, this is glaring black mark on our march resume also for RPI. This loss, which is mostly on Cole and Hurley has shades of Xavier from last year. SMH. Also, why is nobody talking about Polley? This game is over if we have Polley. has anything been said? I might sound salty but its cuz I am. Had me in a bad mood all day. A win over the #9 in the country would have been huge and we were (among many other things, Cole free throws and a better call by Hurley the play before) away from it. This was supposed to put us back on the map and put Bouk on national radars. Poor guy. If we win this game Bouk has crazy hype and around him. A few of Whaley's fouls were ridiculous. He played well and under control and was robbed. Martin shows flashes but had the worst hands I've ever seen. He let so many boards go. Gaffney had the same problem. Gaff also had a horrible game. He needs to settle into the playmaker role that he demonstrated he can be so good at last year. we desperately need that given that Cole is more of short 2 guard. Hurley needs to be better. His coaching sucked. His rotations were off and I can't believe his defense the possession before Cole's free throws. The buck stops with Hurley and he should've known when to tell of Cole. One of our worst losses as a team in a while. This hurts. Major sad vibes.
 
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And Whaley wasn't ready when he was pressed into service last year...and look at him now. Take 12-15 minutes from Adams and put Jackson in the rotation.
 
Burnsbros23 said:
Jackson isn’t ready
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I agree. He also isn't going to get ready if he doesn't get minutes. He blew a bad rotation that led to the dunk and never saw the floor again.

Today may have not been his day. Creighton has an insane offensive IQ. Versus less talented teams, I think he needs to see 15 minutes a game--Sanogo as well. They are higher ceiling players that need to develop--coach has to develop them.
 
I am disappointed that we lost a game that we should have one. It would have a been a "feather in the Cap" W, we haven't beaten a Top Ten since 2014...
But we still are UCONN with 4 NC's, and I am sick of of being positive about moral victories.
Someone on the Creighton board stated it correctly....Uconn is 4 stiffs and Bouknight...he was correct.
The choices to drive into bigger players and shoot into their armpits, missing wide open shots, fumbling the ball, no boxing out....the players may be more talented and bigger than the last few years, but man...that was some ugly ass basketball out there.
 
my2cents said:
I am disappointed that we lost a game that we should have one. It would have a been a "feather in the Cap" W, we haven't beaten a Top Ten since 2014...
But we still are UCONN with 4 NC's, and I am sick of of being positive about moral victories.
Someone on the Creighton board stated it correctly....Uconn is 4 stiffs and Bouknight...he was correct.
The choices to drive into bigger players and shoot into their armpits, missing wide open shots, fumbling the ball, no boxing out....the players may be more talented and bigger than the last few years, but man...that was some ugly ass basketball out there.
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If UConn is 4 stiffs and Bouknight then what is Creighton because we outplayed them for the whole game after spotting them a big lead after a 17 day layoff without two guys who are supposed to be starters...
 
I guess I understand the disappointment, but I don't get the freak-out by some of you. We hadn't played in 2 weeks and took a top 10 team to the wire, and should 've won. Bouk is a true Alpha and just announced himself as legit for first team all-BE and BE Poy. So why the angst? We're just getting warmed up and some people are already acting like the season's done. Am I missing something?
 
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XLCenterFan said:
Bouk gets a pass because he’s Bouk, but he also jacked up two bad 3’s on big possessions. The whole team needs to take better shots, and some people need to shoot less, while others shoot more. We need Polley back and to bring his range. We need Akok back soon. We need Jackson to stay on the bench. We need a true PG. We need a lot, but it’s hard to do anything with this stop and start season. We played bad and should have won today - but Creighton didn’t play their A game either. I’m hopeful.
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The early clock 3 up 4 with around 3 minutes left really hurt. Cole rushed a long jumper on the next possession two after Creighton missed a FT
 
freescooter said:
Cole didn’t play last year. Last time he played in the MEAC on the worst team in the worst league. If you are counting on him you will be disappointed. He was only adequate against Central and Hartford but those were teams from a level where he starred. And he had far more talent around him.
He might have a game here or there where he looks like he’s great. Lots of kids have them. But he is and always was a MEAC/NEC level player. Those things alway show up when guys move way up in class.
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Just stating his stats. Regardless of expectations put on him those were his stats. This is his first Big East game. He missed about 3 open looks. If he hits one of those he returns to his average, has a 15 point effort and we win. It really is a matter of small stat details like this. No one is expecting him to be a first or second team all BE, but if he can average 12-16 then he is doing his part. Regardless of competition all free throws are the same. Don’t think they allow any extra chicanery in BE any different than mid major games while people are shooting free throws. A make is a make.
 
August_West said:
Vance Jackson may be talented . ( and god there a couple post passes I made that made me salivate again) but he doesn’t belong on floor yet for any kind of real minutes. On either end. Sanogo belongs on offensive end already but Jesus not defensively.
I don’t criticize Hurley at all for those minute decisions.
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Vance should go back to New Mexico. Or better yet. Arkansas!!!
 
superjohn said:
He doesn't trust him yet, same with Sanogo. Same with Calhoun with Lamb, same with Hurley and Bouknight last season. For UConn to reach where they can this season he's going to have to start playing Jackson and Sanogo more.
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Disagree. He’s going to have to have more spread offense (Polley) and quicker bigs (Akok when he comes back and the reason Carlton slimmed down). Jackson absolutely, without a doubt has a LOT of growing to do. He’s not anywhere near starter minutes. Hurley has given him a few chances so far and this isn’t BallIsLife where he is dunking over 6’1” high school kids. He is going to need to shoot and thus far he has shown he can’t. So far I’d give Martin minutes over him without a doubt.
 
teams won’t guard jackson. We already have crap spacing. Throwing him out there would just make it worse.
 
XLCenterFan said:
Bouk gets a pass because he’s Bouk, but he also jacked up two bad 3’s on big possessions. The whole team needs to take better shots, and some people need to shoot less, while others shoot more. We need Polley back and to bring his range. We need Akok back soon. We need Jackson to stay on the bench. We need a true PG. We need a lot, but it’s hard to do anything with this stop and start season. We played bad and should have won today - but Creighton didn’t play their A game either. I’m hopeful.
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Jackson played a whole whopping 5 minutes . Bury him on the bench even deeper !!!!!
 
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Lost a winnable game to a Top10 team.. Already been stated about rust/lack of games,etc. I agree.. Our D will win us some games this year.. Creighton's poise and experience showed at crunch time..

JC always had a X's and O's coach on the bench.. Is there one for Dan Hurley? Why do I ask??.. Except for Bouknight's excellent play (for most of the game).. How can we generate offense with a weave?? Is it because of the talent on the floor or because of a lack of creativity in offensive scheme?? Pretty easy to defense against that scheme..

Woulda/coulda/shoulda.. Wished Martin had better hands on the boards/rbs..
 
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Grey Goose said:
Lost a winnable game to a Top10 team.. Already been stated about rust/lack of games,etc. I agree.. Our D will win us some games this year.. Creighton's poise and experience showed at crunch time..

JC always had a X's and O's coach on the bench.. Is there one for Dan Hurley? Why do I ask??.. Except for Bouknight's excellent play (for most of the game).. How can we generate offense with a weave?? Is it because of the talent on the floor or because of a lack of creativity in offensive scheme?? Pretty easy to defense against that scheme..

Woulda/coulda/shoulda.. Wished Martin had better hands on the boards/rbs..
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I love a ton of things about Hurley. Rick Pitino he is not. (in regards to in game bench coaching) . Nobody's perfect though. We all criticized calhouns offensive scheme for years.
 
August_West said:
I love a ton of things about Hurley. Rick Pitino he is not. (in regards to in game bench coaching) . Nobody's perfect though. We all criticized calhouns offensive scheme for years.
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At least JC had guys who would/could set a pick to free up his shooters.. Other than IW.. We need guys on the floor (on occasion) that can do that.. Mahaney was in Bouk's grill for most of the second half /OT.. Bouk couldn't get free during that span of time..
 
Grey Goose said:
At least JC had guys who would/could set a pick to free up his shooters.. Other than IW.. We need guys on the floor (on occasion) that can do that.. Mahaney was in Bouk's grill for most of the second half /OT.. Bouk couldn't get free during that span of time..
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They were blitzing bouk hard no doubt. A healthy polley could help us there on pick and pops . As it is, for better or worse, cole is second option. He won’t shoot that poorly every game.
 
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