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A lot of this comes down to shooting. You might need to temper the emphasis on athleticism a bit and step it up on shooting. Having multiple guys on the floor who can make a shot is essential.

And I hear you guys that say 3’s and layups are the way the game is going for best efficiency. Well, not if you can’t make 3’s it isn’t. A made 12 footer is much more valuable than a missed 3 or a blocked layup.
 
August_West said:
They both have more upside .no doubt. But you earn trust in practice and limited game minutes especially. Not against #9 team in country . Jackson got a first half run. Didn’t distinguish himself at all. Sanogo actually makes a bigger case for minutes than Jackson does. Problem with Sanogo is he’s lost on hurleys defensive schemes.
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Totally disagree, the energy level went up as soon as Jackson was in the game and he made like 4 really good passes. He got pulled for shooting a three and missing an assignment and never got in again. Hurley is conservative to a fault when it comes to young talent, IMO. Your most talented guys need game experience (especially with the circumstances this season) it will pay off soon. Adams played 27 minutes and did nothing.
 
I couldn't have told you Adams played 27 minutes if you gave me 15 guesses. He was invisible out there, which doesn't work with how limited this team is offensively
 
superjohn said:
Totally disagree, the energy level went up as soon as Jackson was in the game and he made like 4 really good passes. He got pulled for shooting a three and missing an assignment and never got in again. Hurley is conservative to a fault when it comes to young talent, IMO. Your most talented guys need game experience (especially with the circumstances this season) it will pay off soon. Adams played 27 minutes and did nothing.
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I think Hurley needs to realize that the level of recruits he brings to UConn are different than what he was getting at URI. These guys are capable of playing right away (with the exception of a few like Brown). They'll make their mistakes but they need to start getting minutes. Sanogo and Jackson need to be getting 15+ a game, if it forces Adams and Carlton to be glued to the bench so be it
 
superjohn said:
Totally disagree, the energy level went up as soon as Jackson was in the game and he made like 4 really good passes. He got pulled for shooting a three and missing an assignment and never got in again. Hurley is conservative to a fault when it comes to young talent, IMO. Your most talented guys need game experience (especially with the circumstances this season) it will pay off soon. Adams played 27 minutes and did nothing.
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Adams defends in a hemisphere ( individually and more importantly, team defense wise) not even viewed in a telescope by Jackson. But yeah Adams is only a guy I think you should see 15 minutes at best. Speaks again to how unprepared Jackson is still.
 
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Today with the exception of Bouknight's play Hurley coached off a Randy Edsall game plan.
 
JMick said:
I think this team has a ton of potential but a lot is going to have to go right to realize that potential. you could tell how bad the time off hurt with stupid things like not seeing the ball off the rim, poor conditioning, completely missed defensive assignments, etc. I don't know if it is going to create momentum; all losses hurt but these kind of losses hurt more.
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This isn't exactly hard hitting analysis, but we need somebody to step and and be that number 2 option for us. It's tough because we have not been playing with our full roster. Maybe if Polley was a go today, then our 3 point shooting numbers don't look as bad? I know they are taking it slow with Akok, and when he finally does come back, he probably won't make a huge impact playing many minutes. But, as long as Akok's minutes are productive, then that is a huge boost.
 
superjohn said:
Totally disagree, the energy level went up as soon as Jackson was in the game and he made like 4 really good passes. He got pulled for shooting a three and missing an assignment and never got in again. Hurley is conservative to a fault when it comes to young talent, IMO. Your most talented guys need game experience (especially with the circumstances this season) it will pay off soon. Adams played 27 minutes and did nothing.
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I wish I liked AJ. But I think he had been a big disappointment and is headed out of the rotation. Not ready for competition at this level.
 
superjohn said:
Totally disagree, the energy level went up as soon as Jackson was in the game and he made like 4 really good passes. He got pulled for shooting a three and missing an assignment and never got in again. Hurley is conservative to a fault when it comes to young talent, IMO. Your most talented guys need game experience (especially with the circumstances this season) it will pay off soon. Adams played 27 minutes and did nothing.
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Agreed, and he was the only guy looking to the post. He had those two nice entry passes when our diminutive guards can't see in there. He had the nice steal. Jackson hasn't been great and can't score yet, but he hasn't been bad enough to be outplayed 27:5 by Adams.

Watching UConn is like watching 'n Knicks when it comes to playing young players. The leash with Jackson is way, way too short but clearly Hurley is sending a message. It is frustrating though. Adams made a couple of mistakes on defense too but hey, it's fine, he can play more than half the game.
 
navery12 said:
I think Hurley needs to realize that the level of recruits he brings to UConn are different than what he was getting at URI. These guys are capable of playing right away (with the exception of a few like Brown). They'll make their mistakes but they need to start getting minutes. Sanogo and Jackson need to be getting 15+ a game, if it forces Adams and Carlton to be glued to the bench so be it
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Carlton got rebounds and blocked shots today and provided some interior defense with his length. He is not Whaley, but today it made sense for his extended minutes. I find no fault with the minutes he got over Sanogo. Yes, moving forward against somewhat lesser teams, I would agree to give Sanogo more minutes.
 
Lefty2one said:
Agreed, and he was the only guy looking to the post. He had those two nice entry passes when our diminutive guards can't see in there. He had the nice steal. Jackson hasn't been great and can't score yet, but he hasn't been bad enough to be outplayed 27:5 by Adams.

Watching UConn is like watching 'n Knicks when it comes to playing young players. The leash with Jackson is way, way too short but clearly Hurley is sending a message. It is frustrating though. Adams made a couple of mistakes on defense too but hey, it's fine, he can play more than half the game.
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I agree its frustrating. If you have a very talented player who is clearly lacking confidence on the court it doesn't help to ridicule/ punish every mistake. All that does is increase the self doubt in that players head. A the same time you don't want Hurley to turn a blind eye... see Calhoun emptying the bench when his star players underperformed. Its a fine line ... but I don't Hurley is walking it very well in this case.
 
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Jax needs to focus on defense and use his superior athleticism to be an opportunistic scorer. It may take him a year or more to get some semblance of an offensive game.
 
Improviser said:
They needed to complete a near perfect game to win over a Top 10, veteran team, that had 2 recent games under its belt. RJ makes one foul shot, not both, and then Creighton would have needed a 3, and no guarantee they would.

One made foul shot = the perfect game even with all the poor shooting of Gaffney and Cole and the offensive non-productivity of Adams and Martin.

Too bad Whaley was in foul trouble the first half, and then fouled out when his presence might have meant a defensive stop. Maybe, he learns how to foul less.

Not sure what this loss does to the team. Motivation for more focus in coming games? Time will tell.

But Bouk is not going to average 40 a game. So again, what happens next? Where will the offense come from?

Polley for a few 3's a game but then a loss of defense (Martin is better)? More PT for Sanogo? Akok eventually back for interior defense with improved offense?

Gaffney a really bad shooter and not necessarily a good point guard.
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Not sure about the Gaffney comment. That remains to be seen. Besides, he’s not a starter and at least has a complete enough skill set to sustain the team when he’s in there. He could become a starter since its the first BE game......
 
bendm said:
guess we're the only 2 here that are ok with losing in OT to a top 10 team after not playing in 2.5 weeks.

i'd be surprised if cole and gaff ever go a combined 2/13 on threes again.
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Not entirely sure what people expected. I recall seeing a TON of “I’m nervous about playing Creighton on that much rest” talk prior to the game. Then we are two (maybe 1) free throw from winning but it doesn’t fall our way and we instantly act like a son who’s dad canceled their day of playing catch because he had to stay late at the office again to work on the Johnson case. This takes time and oh yea...

....IT’S OUR FIRST BIG EAST GAME with a revamped roster.
 
August_West said:
You have a short memory of how many games we couldn’t close out on Ollie era. It was actually tragically comical how many times we were under 4 min with lead and snatched defeat from jaws of victory
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yeah i must have a short memory because i dont recall a game played during the Ollie era when we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in an OT loss to a top 10 team after not playing in 2.5 weeks. do you?

i dont even know what the basis for comparison is between this team and any team from the Ollie era besides the arena they play in so invoking Ollie's name in the first place is nonsensical
 
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navery12 said:
I couldn't have told you Adams played 27 minutes if you gave me 15 guesses. He was invisible out there, which doesn't work with how limited this team is offensively
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Adams played 27 mins? U kidding? Thought he played like 10. Wow
 
back2BE4us said:
Cole shot 39% from 3 and 82% from the line last year. He’s fine. We didn’t have Polley or Akok. Effort was there all game. Bouk won’t have to do as much once 1-2 guys figure out their fit and can consistently put up 12-15pts a game. First BE game people, and against the #9 team no less...
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Cole didn’t play last year. Last time he played in the MEAC on the worst team in the worst league. If you are counting on him you will be disappointed. He was only adequate against Central and Hartford but those were teams from a level where he starred. And he had far more talent around him.
He might have a game here or there where he looks like he’s great. Lots of kids have them. But he is and always was a MEAC/NEC level player. Those things alway show up when guys move way up in class.
 
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Peacefrog said:
I have to question the offensive coaching. We're not a good shooting team; everyone including Hurley has to know that. Employing a strategy where this team launches 30 three-pointers is a losing approach. Yes, we should have made more of the wide open ones and we almost got away with it but (especially against a team like Creighton) Hurley needs to find a way to get more high percentage shots.
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Really we need to recruit or develop a 3 point shooter. This is the game now and we are way behind without a couple.
 
87Xfer said:
wow, that seems like a premature assessment
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No it’s simply an assessment ( I hope!) 4 games into frosh season. He has all the tools to be a great player. Very few live up to their potential, 4 games into freshman season, never mind the stoppages from real world issues. I love AJ on our team. He’s going to be a great asset. No doubt about that. But coach is only gonna spot him minutes until not a game floor liability.
 
August_West said:
If he offered more chance to win a game than Adams or gaffney, Hurley would be performing coaching malpractice by not having him on floor. Is he performing coaching malpractice?
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Yes. He has a low tolerance for mistakes with young players. So he seems to prefer to play guys who don’t do much positively or negatively. Adams was that today. It was the same last year when he waited too long to give Gaffney a chance.

Andre came in, and immediately looked like Henefeld intercepting a pass and starting a fast break for a basket. He made two nice passes as you noted, which is one more than our PGs made (Gaff had a nice feed). Adams played 27 minutes. He was 1-5 for 2 points. No assists, no steals and 2 boards. He didn’t get to the line even once.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Yes. He has a low tolerance for mistakes with young players. So he seems to prefer to play guys who don’t do much positively or negatively. Adams was that today. It was the same last year when he waited too long to give Gaffney a chance.

Andre came in, and immediately looked like Henefeld intercepting a pass and starting a fast break for a basket. He made two nice passes as you noted, which is one more than our PGs made (Gaff had a nice feed). Adams played 27 minutes. He was 1-5 for 2 points. No assists, no steals and 2 boards. He didn’t get to the line even once.
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i remember another coach who had low tolerance for young players mistakes.
 
carlton is not going to compete with BE and tourney bigs. sanogo is a little undersized but way more athletic. athletic bigs
 
AntG168 said:
Fr Bouk spoiled you all. He was a rare freshman
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It's 2020. Highly rated freshmen play and play well all the time.

Regardless no one is calling for him to play 30+ minutes right now and he the #2 option, just when you have several guys out there playing big minutes and giving us nothing than Jackson should be playing more than 5.
 
Does anyone know if Hurley or the staff read the BY and look at these suggestions?

Now that he is not the coach, has anyone asked Calhoun if he read the BY? And if yes, what did he think of it?

What about Calhoun's immediate successor?
 
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