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We Should Be #1 on Monday

I read an article earlier this week by one of the AP voters who gave his rationale regarding why he won't rank UConn #1.

Basically it comes down to Purdue having lots more Quad 1 wins and wins over top 25 teams AND our OOC schedule being so soft with so many really weak teams.

I don't see how the bottom teams should affect us so much when you look at how weak Houston's overall schedule is and how highly they've been ranked, but my overall take is SO WHAT!

The only benefit is national hype for the casual fans and maybe some recruits, while last year's tournament results showed the value of rankings.
 
Scrutiner said:
I read an article earlier this week by one of the AP voters who gave his rationale regarding why he won't rank UConn #1.

Basically it comes down to Purdue having lots more Quad 1 wins and wins over top 25 teams AND our OOC schedule being so soft with so many really weak teams.

I don't see how the bottom teams should affect us so much when you look at how weak Houston's overall schedule is and how highly they've been ranked, but my overall take is SO WHAT!

The only benefit is national hype for the casual fans and maybe some recruits, while last year's tournament results showed the value of rankings.
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I agree with the rationale on Purdue. If the tournament started today they should be the overall number 1 based on their body of work. Houston was also punished in that it took them awhile to rise up the rankings and were still not number 1 despite no losses. They should plummet based on these 2 games.
 
HeGotGame said:
I don't really care about being 2 to 25 but it's absurd notion to think that being #1 is not an important thing and carry weight for the program on a national level with media, recruiting, ect.
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It's a really big deal for any team that hasn't been there before. For a team defending its fifth national championship, the goal is nothing less than the FF, and being in the position to win #6.
 
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uh-no said:
ehhh i suspect one of houston or purdue will stay ahead of us.
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Houston is LOL

Purdue should be behind us…

I see lot of BS out there on how they should stay #1 - no way… Our NC win where we put them away like D2 team is looking better and better and 2 what I would call quality losses. SH has show they are no slouch.
 
aceboon said:
Well Donny Marshall said "Purdue shouldn't be penalized and drop from #1 because Nebraska has a new team" or something weird like that. I get that he tries to be unbiased but he lays it on too thick at times.
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My biggest complaint about him…. Donny, you don’t have to favor us but don’t think of things to say to “prove” your not a homer… takes away from your credibility at times And like to see you keep elevating to the natural next step in your career.
 
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Scrutiner said:
I read an article earlier this week by one of the AP voters who gave his rationale regarding why he won't rank UConn #1.

Basically it comes down to Purdue having lots more Quad 1 wins and wins over top 25 teams AND our OOC schedule being so soft with so many really weak teams.

I don't see how the bottom teams should affect us so much when you look at how weak Houston's overall schedule is and how highly they've been ranked, but my overall take is SO WHAT!

The only benefit is national hype for the casual fans and maybe some recruits, while last year's tournament results showed the value of rankings.
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Honestly believe the actual reason they won't rank Huskies 1 is because UConn twitter is completely bananas, and keeping them out of 1st place earns a lot of impressions they normally wouldn't see
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Anyone talking about "well we have to look at the overall resume" is looking for a reason to deny us.

This is the AP poll, not discussing the merits of the #1 overall seed.

If you lose, you should drop. Period.
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I agree - this no team should stay #1 with a loss this time of the season to an unranked team no less.

Purdue is good but nowhere good enough to stay #1 with this type of loss. If UConn isn’t #1 on Monday it’s simply the anti-UConn bias rearing it’s ugly head once again.

No one at UConn will lose sleep if we’re number 2 but this is about what’s right… If positions reversed I would take the same position.
 
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I’m assuming (at least) three teams will be getting number one votes this week. Hope the math works out in our favor, being #1 is always nice. Obvi not the end goal but still always cool to see.

I understand the logic for Kansas and Purdue but you’d hate to see Kansas move up after a loss. Purdue might have better tourney resume at this point. Texas and Gonzaga wins not looking as good as they once did, but at least UNC is having a year
 
HeGotGame said:
Being the defending National champion and being #1 again the next year shows a lot about the program
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Only if they continue to win.

How many national champs were #1 in January?
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Anyone talking about "well we have to look at the overall resume" is looking for a reason to deny us.

This is the AP poll, not discussing the merits of the #1 overall seed.

If you lose, you should drop. Period.
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If UConn lost today, would UNC be your number 1 ranked team? Based on how these polls usually go, I’d expect UConn to be number 1, but given the craziness of this week I’m wondering how hard your rule of automatically dropping is.
 
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Drame said:
Kansas was 3 and lost. They are not moving up. Thats stupid.
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Kansas had a top ten win and has the head to head against us. That is the argument for them at #1. I’m not saying I agree, but that is the argument.
 
ninety-nine said:
We actually dropped four spots in KenPom after this win due to G'town's poor ranking, so I'm not expecting much of a move. Despite losing twice, Houston is still #1 by a mile. It's like their losses are somehow more impressive than our wins.

This isn't something UConn can really control. I think once we lost to Kansas, we were basically shut out from ever being #1 this year. We needed to have that specific win on our resume to overcome all the extreme bottom feeders on our schedule (nonconference cupcakes plus DePaul). I think enough voters look at those types of rankings to keep us from being bumped up, unless we literally go undefeated for a month and those other teams lose three games each.
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If this was the case then Kansas wouldn't be ahead of us with their poor advanced metrics
 
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WhereistheDove? said:
Kansas had a top ten win and has the head to head against us. That is the argument for them at #1. I’m not saying I agree, but that is the argument.
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I think what is lost in this conversation and I’ve seen other sports writers do the same today is that this isn’t the time for an ”end of the season recalibration“ where things like this might make sense - lose to unranked and stay #1 - i.e. conference tourney.

Folks we are in mid-season and losing to an unranked team will cost you the #1 ranking.
And if you lose you don’t get elevated to the #1 team in the country.

That’s the way it’s been and should be come Monday.
 
All of these are true:

  • (For the old curmudgeons who need the validation,) yes, the #1 ranking is not our goal for the season, we're not printing t-shirts, we want to be #1 in April, blah blah blah
  • the #1 ranking does matter for buzz/hype/media/relevance and for cementing the narrative that UConn is back, which impacts recruiting
  • no, being denied the #1 ranking is not "good" for our program's reputation, mentality, whatever, please get out of the plucky underdog mindset
  • if we are denied the #1 ranking, I absolutely expect it to fuel Hurley and the team through the "disrespect" angle, which we've seen plenty of already from officials and others, which is a valid silver lining
  • there are valid arguments for why we are not currently the best team in the country, don't have the best resume, wouldn't get the #1 overall seed, etc.
  • however, those arguments are almost never invoked mid-season when conducting AP rankings, and in this case would only be used by those members of the media who expressly want to deny UConn the #1 ranking
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Kansas had a top ten win and has the head to head against us. That is the argument for them at #1. I’m not saying I agree, but that is the argument.
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A win at home when you are favored doesn’t offset a loss to Central Florida. You don’t move up in that scenario.
 
Pmac923 said:
A win at home when you are favored doesn’t offset a loss to Central Florida. You don’t move up in that scenario.
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I will almost guarantee they will get quite a few first place votes at a minimum. Again, not saying it’s right, but it’s Kansas.
 
Scrutiner said:
I read an article earlier this week by one of the AP voters who gave his rationale regarding why he won't rank UConn #1.

Basically it comes down to Purdue having lots more Quad 1 wins and wins over top 25 teams AND our OOC schedule being so soft with so many really weak teams.

I don't see how the bottom teams should affect us so much when you look at how weak Houston's overall schedule is and how highly they've been ranked, but my overall take is SO WHAT!

The only benefit is national hype for the casual fans and maybe some recruits, while last year's tournament results showed the value of rankings.
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I believe that was Gary Parrish…..Hurley subtly called him out in the presser
 
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