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UConn hopes to have short memory once again as NCAA Tournament now awaits

UConn has been able to respond well after losses this season, something Dan Hurley and Huskies will have to do again entering NCAA Tournamen...
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Most likely a 2 in Philly, either in the South or Midwest. Still a nonzero chance of the East, but the 2 line has to be manipulated either way because of all the Big 10 and Big 12 teams near the top.
 
lateralous said:
I live in Philadelphia and have tickets for next weekends first and second rounds. The assumption for most of the season seemed to be that UConn would start here. For those of you who understand the brackets better, does yesterday change the likelihood of that?
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Of all this crazy bracket speculation here, a start in Philly is the one thing you can pretty much set in stone. If UConn isn’t at least a two seed starting in Philly, the Committee has botched things pretty badly.
 
dalydosehoops said:
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UConn hopes to have short memory once again as NCAA Tournament now awaits

UConn has been able to respond well after losses this season, something Dan Hurley and Huskies will have to do again entering NCAA Tournamen...
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Most likely a 2 in Philly, either in the South or Midwest. Still a nonzero chance of the East, but the 2 line has to be manipulated either way because of all the Big 10 and Big 12 teams near the top.
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I’m thinking they may move Houston past us (if they aren’t already) after making the Big 12 final and give them their coveted spot in the South. That would mean the Midwest or West for us. I too would be really surprised if they put us with Duke in the East, as much a punishment for them as a reward for us. But we got screwed in our path to the FF as the top overall seed in 23-24 so who knows.
 
Lafayette said:
Bart/Ken/NET has us a 3

Bracket Matrix has us from consensus of bracketologists the top #2.
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I can't check kenpom's detailed pages but Bart has "2.4" as the projected seed, which seems to suggest we end up a 2 in more simulations than as a 3.
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Excalibur said:
Conference tournaments don’t change seeding all that much.
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It’s maybe 3-4 games out of a body of 30+. The Committee doesn’t give those games any more or less weight than any others. For example, we just added two Quad 2 wins and a Quad 1 loss to our overall resume of 30+ games. Not really going to move the needle either way. Committee doesn’t care if we made the Big East finals.
 
I personally believe we are almost assured of a two seed, very likely in the east.

I'm not concerned about seed or location. What i am concerned about is this team's collective mental toughness, their ability to maintain focus at the end of stretches of prosperity and their ability to sustain the needed level of intensity throughout the entirety of their remaining games.

In many ways this team is the opposite of many prior teams that didn't quite get to the promised land. We've had many teams that had the will (or mental toughness), focus and intensity, but were just a player or two away from being able to win it all.

I don’t know if this team can find it, but they just need to find it for a few weeks.

Having one kid on this team with Cam Spencer's mentality (doesn't need to have his talent) would be enough.
 
The main pages (rankings of teams) has us floating from top 3 to bottom 3 depending on the service. The committee uses NET, Bart, and Ken quite a bit.

I get Lunardi gets the eyeballs as he's the originator of bracketology plus he's on ESPN, but you want your 3pt shooters hitting at his correct seeding pct, not your predictors of seeding.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
You are correct, but we've won two since then
and the brand was kind of "down" before '23 nationally, but thats not my issue here.

they use a bunch of metrics. But they still vote. There are rules involved with who can be in the room when they discuss to try to eliminate bias etc. So there is variability- its not all done by computer and not every members ballot looks the same. Im not an expert but I'm pretty sure this is the case.

Also, im mainly talking about the UConn factor as difference between 1 maybe 2 seeding spots. The committee also usually gives favorable locations to Duke, the UConn women etc. in spite of their seasons, and preferential treatment to certain big name programs. Within reason of course. i.e. Kansas wont be a 1 seed
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I think Im saying that the metric they use mostly (WAB) favors UConn, but also objectively looking at wins, record, WAB, the 2 seed is what UConn deserves, and it's not because of brand if they get it. If UConn was some other BE school I believe they would also get a 2 seed
 
DCKembaFan said:
Not entirely a UConn comment, but it will be an absolute joke if Houston gets to play in Houston without being a 1 seed
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That would be unprecedented.

I posted elsewhere the closest comp was 2003 Kansas playing in Oklahoma State regional.

That was 316 miles from campus. Houston would be 3.

Ultimately we will be a 2 or 3 regardless of today's games. Michigan will win (most likely) and even if they don't they are maybe the 4th 1 seed now and nothing changes for them.

Houston put up a fight; we did not.
But Florida lost to a sub .500 team in their quarters like if we had lost to Georgetown.

It's somewhat likely Houston gets a 1 out of best of the rest. Equally likely is if Florida gets moved up to the 1 line in the South and Houston goes there as the top 2. Totally defensible for the committee.
 
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upstater said:
I think Im saying that the metric they use mostly (WAB) favors UConn, but also objectively looking at wins, record, WAB, the 2 seed is what UConn deserves, and it's not because of brand if they get it. If UConn was some other BE school I believe they would also get a 2 seed
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I thought WAB mainly deals with Bubble teams? I'm not saying youre wrong. I really dont know
 
Lafayette said:
That would be unprecedented.

I posted elsewhere the closest comp was 2003 Kansas playing in Oklahoma State regional.

That was 316 miles from campus. Houston would be 3.
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Again, Purdue played in Indianapolis as a 4 seed, LAST YEAR.

Really strange comments on seeding and placements.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
I thought WAB mainly deals with Bubble teams? I'm not saying youre wrong. I really dont know
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It's a way to differentiate the quality of Quad 1 wins. How do differentiate between a win against Illinois and a win AT Northwestern? When it comes to racking Q1 wins, they both count the same.

I read where Gavitt has said that Auburn earned their surprise #1 seed on the basis of WAB.
 
Lafayette said:
That would be unprecedented.

I posted elsewhere the closest comp was 2003 Kansas playing in Oklahoma State regional.

That was 316 miles from campus. Houston would be 3.

Ultimately we will be a 2 or 3 regardless of today's games. Michigan will win (most likely) and even if they don't they are maybe the 4th 1 seed now and nothing changes for them.

Houston put up a fight; we did not.
But Florida lost to a sub .500 team in their quarters like if we had lost to Georgetown.

It's somewhat likely Houston gets a 1 out of best of the rest. Equally likely is if Florida gets moved up to the 1 line in the South and Houston goes there as the top 2. Totally defensible for the committee.
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BFieldHusky said:
Again, Purdue played in Indianapolis as a 4 seed, LAST YEAR.

Really strange comments on seeding and placements.
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Yup. We played in the Boston regional 87 miles from Storrs two years ago and who knows how many times UNC and Duke have been assigned to Greensboro and Charlotte regionals over the years. This stuff happens a lot
 
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DCKembaFan said:
Not entirely a UConn comment, but it will be an absolute joke if Houston gets to play in Houston without being a 1 seed
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It's semantics, as flipping Florida and Houston seeds wouldn't matter at all. But I agree Houston engineering a basic home game if they make the 2nd Weekend is BS.
 
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