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We earn a 2 seed or 3 seed.

UConn will definitely be a 2 seed.... no way 4 teams have passed us because of this debacle. The 1 seed was still in realistic play if had won.

Florida has 7 loses and got beat almost as badly as us today.. but they probably get the last 1 seed by default since Houston lost as well. All the teams playing tomorrow besides Michigan have 7 or 8 loses....there aren't 4 teams that can push UConn off the 2 line.
 
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bendm said:
Since ever. The only prohibition is sticking the 5 overall seed with the 1 overall seed And we are not going to be 5 overall.
How do you explain Houston being #2 in the South in almost every bracket even when we were 5th on the s-curve, which should have placed us in the South? it was due to their geographical preference.
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Houston has been projected as the first or second #2 (overall #5 or 6) for much of the last three months. They can't be in the West with Arizona and MSU can't be placed in the Midwest with UM so the regional assignments need to be shifted accordingly. I guess it's accurate to say geographical preference is a factor in placing protected seeds (including 2s) but the overarching principle is to maintain competitive balance. If you place the first or second best #2 (Houston) in the same region as the fourth #1, that seems reasonable. If you stick them (or us) with the top #1, that doesn't seem like competitive balance to me.
 
shizzle787 said:
Tell that to St. John's. If they had lost to Providence, they would have likely slipped to a 6 seed. Now that they did the conference double, they will likely be a 4 seed.
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They’ll probably be a 5
 
connVA said:
Houston has been projected as the first or second #2 (overall #5 or 6) for much of the last three months. They can't be in the West with Arizona and MSU can't be placed in the Midwest with UM so the regional assignments need to be shifted accordingly. I guess it's accurate to say geographical preference is a factor in placing protected seeds (including 2s) but the overarching principle is to maintain competitive balance. If you place the first or second best #2 (Houston) in the same region as the fourth #1, that seems reasonable. If you stick them (or us) with the top #1, that doesn't seem like competitive balance to me.
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I was wrong to say forever, over time The committee has moved away from strict s-curve application and they now prioritize Geography for the top 16 teams. Under the Current rules No. 1 seeds are placed in their preferred regions first, and then No. 2 seeds are placed in the region closest to their campus that is still available, unless it would create a massive imbalance.

So while I wont be surprised if they protect precious Duke, I will still be pissed. But we should at worst be shipped to the Midwest region not the west
 
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We have not had as many quad 1 opportunities as many teams, but our combined quad1/quad 2 record is still fourth best in the nation at 18-4. That doesn’t mean we are 1-seed material, but any 3-seed talk is ridiculous.
 
Guys, think about this: The ONLY team on our schedule that we did not beat is Arizona. And that was without two starters. That is damn impressive. All the other losses were to teams we do a double round-robin with and we beat them 1/2 (or 3 in the case of SJU). So, I repeat: THE ONLY TEAM WE PLAYED THIS YEAR THAT WE DID NOT BEAT IS ARIZONA! That is wildly impressive.
 
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I live in Philadelphia and have tickets for next weekends first and second rounds. The assumption for most of the season seemed to be that UConn would start here. For those of you who understand the brackets better, does yesterday change the likelihood of that?
 
lateralous said:
I live in Philadelphia and have tickets for next weekends first and second rounds. The assumption for most of the season seemed to be that UConn would start here. For those of you who understand the brackets better, does yesterday change the likelihood of that?
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Definitely Philly still.
 
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bendm said:
I was wrong to say forever, over time The committee has moved away from strict s-curve application and they now prioritize Geography for the top 16 teams. Under the Current rules No. 1 seeds are placed in their preferred regions first, and then No. 2 seeds are placed in the region closest to their campus that is still available, unless it would create a massive imbalance.

So while I wont be surprised if they protect precious Duke, I will still be pissed. But we should at worst be shipped to the Midwest region not the west
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Best thing for this team is to be shipped as far away from CT as possible.
 
ConnMotors said:
We went from a One Seed to a Three Seed in a week
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That’s why they don’t base seeding on a short timeframe. It’s on the entire season. We’ll be a 2 seed. It’s also the reason why St John’s will be a 4 or 5 seed instead of a 2 or 3. They’ve won like 19 of their last 20 games but lost to every big non conference opponent they played.
 
upstater said:
No. They go by your actual record and what you've done. The WAB is their top metric and UConn has a very good one because of all the wins over ranked teams. Then you have 5 losses. This is why. Not the brand.

The brand was already great a few years ago when our net was 5, we were ranked 6, and yet ended up with a 4 seed.
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You are correct, but we've won two since then
and the brand was kind of "down" before '23 nationally, but thats not my issue here.

they use a bunch of metrics. But they still vote. There are rules involved with who can be in the room when they discuss to try to eliminate bias etc. So there is variability- its not all done by computer and not every members ballot looks the same. Im not an expert but I'm pretty sure this is the case.

Also, im mainly talking about the UConn factor as difference between 1 maybe 2 seeding spots. The committee also usually gives favorable locations to Duke, the UConn women etc. in spite of their seasons, and preferential treatment to certain big name programs. Within reason of course. i.e. Kansas wont be a 1 seed
 
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shizzle787 said:
4 or 5 but I think committee gives them a 4 for winning regular season and tournament.
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Just wondering if the committee after last night’s game moves them to a 3?
 
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Brad Palmer said:
We'll be the top 2 seed (5th overall)...Florida in Elite 8 if seeds hold.
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Florida has improved a great deal over the season, UConn has NOT. Early in season UConn was better in front court, now definitely not. Earlier UConn better in backcourt, now NOT SO. Florida got tougher, UConn got soft.
 
jibsey said:
Just wondering if the committee after last night’s game moves them to a 3?
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I’m thinking no because they have slighted the Big East in recent years and we all agree the conference is down. And also when you look at St John’s non conference big games, they lost each one of them. I think they will be a 4 seed
 
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Most likely a 2 in Philly, either in the South or Midwest. Still a nonzero chance of the East, but the 2 line has to be manipulated either way because of all the Big 10 and Big 12 teams near the top.
 
lateralous said:
I live in Philadelphia and have tickets for next weekends first and second rounds. The assumption for most of the season seemed to be that UConn would start here. For those of you who understand the brackets better, does yesterday change the likelihood of that?
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Of all this crazy bracket speculation here, a start in Philly is the one thing you can pretty much set in stone. If UConn isn’t at least a two seed starting in Philly, the Committee has botched things pretty badly.
 
dalydosehoops said:
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UConn has been able to respond well after losses this season, something Dan Hurley and Huskies will have to do again entering NCAA Tournamen...
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Most likely a 2 in Philly, either in the South or Midwest. Still a nonzero chance of the East, but the 2 line has to be manipulated either way because of all the Big 10 and Big 12 teams near the top.
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I’m thinking they may move Houston past us (if they aren’t already) after making the Big 12 final and give them their coveted spot in the South. That would mean the Midwest or West for us. I too would be really surprised if they put us with Duke in the East, as much a punishment for them as a reward for us. But we got screwed in our path to the FF as the top overall seed in 23-24 so who knows.
 
Bart/Ken/NET has us a 3

Bracket Matrix has us from consensus of bracketologists the top #2.
 
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DC | 1 Duke - 8 Mich St
CA | 2 Ariz - 6 UConn
IL | 3 Mich - 7 Iowa St
TX | 4 Fla - 5 Hous
 
Lafayette said:
Bart/Ken/NET has us a 3

Bracket Matrix has us from consensus of bracketologists the top #2.
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I can't check kenpom's detailed pages but Bart has "2.4" as the projected seed, which seems to suggest we end up a 2 in more simulations than as a 3.
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Excalibur said:
Conference tournaments don’t change seeding all that much.
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It’s maybe 3-4 games out of a body of 30+. The Committee doesn’t give those games any more or less weight than any others. For example, we just added two Quad 2 wins and a Quad 1 loss to our overall resume of 30+ games. Not really going to move the needle either way. Committee doesn’t care if we made the Big East finals.
 
I personally believe we are almost assured of a two seed, very likely in the east.

I'm not concerned about seed or location. What i am concerned about is this team's collective mental toughness, their ability to maintain focus at the end of stretches of prosperity and their ability to sustain the needed level of intensity throughout the entirety of their remaining games.

In many ways this team is the opposite of many prior teams that didn't quite get to the promised land. We've had many teams that had the will (or mental toughness), focus and intensity, but were just a player or two away from being able to win it all.

I don’t know if this team can find it, but they just need to find it for a few weeks.

Having one kid on this team with Cam Spencer's mentality (doesn't need to have his talent) would be enough.
 
The main pages (rankings of teams) has us floating from top 3 to bottom 3 depending on the service. The committee uses NET, Bart, and Ken quite a bit.

I get Lunardi gets the eyeballs as he's the originator of bracketology plus he's on ESPN, but you want your 3pt shooters hitting at his correct seeding pct, not your predictors of seeding.
 
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