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We are SOFT

superjohn said:
The fact that Vital has been a starting shooting guard for us for 3+ years is insane. The fact that he's been our leading scorer is beyond depressing.
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Although that is depressing in which I have no argument for. It says a lot unfortunately. It says we have nobody and haven’t had a reliable stud in years. It also says that our backup 2 because that’s what he is is a starter. Honestly some of these guys play as what they are. As much as we may be pissed at Carlton he is what he is a player. He’s a backup center possibly 3rd stringer center if were able to get some of those other recruits starting for us. So talent does play a part along with toughness.
 
Like baby poop.

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So we should have dumped all of the guys who came to UConn under Ollie and replaced them with who ? Guys off the football team. They might be even softer. Or should we just be going with 4 guys?
 
8893 said:
Josh won most improved player in the conference last season, right? What happened there?
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You sound like the voice in my head watching him this season. WTH happened? I thought Sal would make him a beast.
 
8893 said:
Josh won most improved player in the conference last season, right? What happened there?
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The secret is, he's purposely playing terrible right now so he can win it again this year. Shhhh
 
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Absolutely need someone like Saunders, or sellers or Jeff Adrian. Show these boys how to play with heart.
 
Chasm64 said:
So we should have dumped all of the guys who came to UConn under Ollie and replaced them with who ? Guys off the football team. They might be even softer. Or should we just be going with 4 guys?
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You bring in other players.l
 
Can someone wake me up from this nightmare?
 
The 4 upperclassmen starters shot a combined 6 for 22 today. 6 for 22. Against USF.

Bouknight led the team in scoring AND rebounding, off the bench.

Hurley inherited a big hole to dig out of, but he really needs to better manage the talent he does have. If your freshman guard leads the team in scoring and rebounding off the bench, he needs to be starting. Period. AG and CV have had plenty of chances to show that they can lead and win. They can't.

It is time to turn the page.
 
Shine33 said:
People on the boneyard keep bringing up “talent” in terms of recruiting as if that’s the only thing that matters. I don’t care what they’re rankings were in high school.

Toughness and a Killer Mentality matters just as much if not even more so. Those things don’t always show in high school rankings.

Ollie recruited mostly soft players. It’s up to Hurley to get guys with a killer mentality the way JC did.

Ppl on here putting too much stock in rankings and saying we have talent. None of the talent matters if you are not tougher than the man across from you. Period.
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Giddyup5 said:
I think most of us wouldn’t be as pissed if we were loosing close games. It’s really not even competitive.

Let’s say your point on Hurley is true. Isn’t that still the head coaches fault?
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Yes, which is why I said his biggest mistake was not getting rid of them. My point is there isn’t a whole lot he can do to change their nature which is what I think what we all want the most
 
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8893 said:
Gilbert and Vital may have many flaws, but toughness wasn’t one of them. They are not big, but they were never soft.

Defense is 99% effort and there is no excuse for not playing defense imo. Not finishing at the rim is another problem. Both can be instilled.

Josh won most improved player in the conference last season, right? What happened there?

I don’t have the answers, but I’m not paid to. As a fan, I have a lot more questions than I thought I did a few weeks ago. I was apoplectic after the St. Joe’s loss, but I was buoyed by a lot of what I saw after that. Now I am just getting numb.
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Gilbert and Vital are low basketball IQ players. When I mentioned toughness or what I would call grit i mainly speak to Carlton, Polley, Whaley, Sid Wilson, and yes I do think Gilbert lacks grit too actually. It’s more of a combo of lack of grit plus flaws than just toughness itself I guess. I still think the majority of our issues were handed to Hurley on platter via Ollie. I really do. Next year I’m willing to think otherwise
 
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superjohn said:
I'm a masochist and watch all of it. I'm not sure I can do that anymore, I seriously think it takes a toll on my health.
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I'm beginning to believe the same.
 
We’ve been soft for 5 years. Once Boat left we haven’t had one tough kid but Rak Lubin, who unfortunately couldn’t play a lick. We don’t need all 4 and 5 star kids, but rather a complement of different types of players, including a few strong, tough kids.
 
I know some people on here weren’t thrilled with the video of Andre getting in that kids face after dunking on him but damn this team needs that kind of attitude so much right now. I really hope he and Javonte Brown Ferguson bring a take no prisoners attitude next year and transform the attitude of this team.

Have any of our forwards gotten called for a charge at all this season while going hard to the rim? Carlton has such a big body. Just freaking beast it to the rim. At this point if he gets called for a charge I couldn’t care less. I just want to see some semblance of attitude from these guys.
 
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