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Then he's the wrong guy for the job!!! Our situation calls for somebody with balls. Any CEO worth his salt will tell you s/he prefers someone who takes action. Ask Lincoln what he thought of the usefulness of McClellan's ability to monitor situations. The plain cold fact is we're going in the wrong direction so step one in any plan is to stop going that way. The way to stop going that way is to get rid of the guy leading. Right now. Not later. Not after the guy has a chance to accidentally stumble upon a good result that temporarily let's people sigh, slide back into the barcalounger, and pretend that maybe things are going to work out after all. They're not, and the last thing we need to do is fool ourselves about that.

Inaction is the wrong course. Even if TJ or whoever is installed as head coach fails miserably, so what? You come to a fork in the road. To the left is certain death. To the right is almost certain death. Which way do you go?

People are worried about sending the wrong message to some future coach? Trust me, firing PP now is EXACTLY the message I want to send. It's not like Thursday was Paul's first stroll out that tunnel. I want anyone applying for the job to think "These guys mean business." Right now we look like a bunch of monkeys grooming ourselves for fleas while the forest is on fire.


Don't disagree, just warning folks not to hold their breaths.
 
Well, Pasqualoni said some things during the summer about urgency, he made reference to his job security after two 5-7 seasons at the Middles e x Chamber of Commerce, and for all that urgency/desperation we went out and lost to Towson. So my advice is don't hold your breath for some renewed sense of urgency or something dramatic to happen. As long as we're talking about reality here, the reality is the decisions that will turn the ship around won't come in in the next two months, at least, not publicly. Manuel probably has a list of candidates and he'll be watching the names on that list, maybe adding and subtracting from during the season. But turning a big battleship around takes time, it's not done instantaneously even if that's what we want.

Your battleship reference is interesting. Agreed you shouldn't be able to turn one on a dime. But let's review how quickly Pasqualoni "turned it around" the wrong way!

We had just come off 4 straight "bowl game" seasons, including a BCS game. (While many say it was a fluke and we didn't deserve it, we did play in one. Granted we lost big, but by the same score that ND lost big to Bama.) We had beaten South Carolina the year before. etc. My point is we were on a nice trajectory and then we crashed and burned with PP at the wheel. Turning the "battleship" back around will probably take longer. It always takes longer to fix something you broke then to build it in the first place. However, the absolute wrong thing to do is delay the start of the work. I say if Maryland and Michigan are repeats of Towson, then good bye Pasqualoni.
 
yes you can fire coaches during the season. Desperate times, desperate measures. Sends a message that we're not going to tolerate the over-the-hill gang. Not unfair to Weist either - low expectations. I think the players would respond favorably, IMO.

This group of coaches knows the score. My guess is that old contacts are being renewed, Resumes are being updated and houses are being listed. They're human. They're worried about feeding their families beyond this season. The only coach who would bat an eye at PP's firing would be GDL. The others would probably see it as a ray of hope; a chance to turn things around.

The players aren't stupid either. They know what's going on; what's at stake.

To me, a continuation of PP is like a sign outside "Burton" that reads,
"THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORAL IMPROVES."
 
No it's not really fair to seniors, or to the other players, that the Rent will be a morgue. This season is going to probably be the worst since we moved into the Rent, and if that turns out to be the case, yeah it'll really suck for the seniors to have their last year under a lame duck coach with no hope of a bowl bid.

There will come a point, if it hasn't happened already, where ALL the players will realize PP and GDL are gone. It then becomes that much harder to "run through a wall" for them.

That's when the wheels fall off. If we're 0-4 after Buffalo my guess is all hell will break loose.
 
Not picking a spitting match here, I ask a question to be informed. How many school AD's have pressers after a football game? I have not heard of this.
Also do some research on the PP hire and you will find he was brought in by the board and not the AD at the time alone. He will not exit by the AD alone at our state run school.
Do some homework on Larry McHugh and co. This will solve many questions you may have on when negative comments on the coaching staff will be made public by the school administration. It would be a classless act for him to do so.
This was not my choice from day one and I do not see it as Warde's fault. Not sure what anyone would expect him to say after one game into the season regardless of the fact it should have been won or lost...

Hathaway had three major requirements and one general, all-encompassing requirement for RE's replacement.

1. He has to be nice to me; unlike JC and RE.
2. He has to treat me like something other than an empty suit.
3. He can't be dismissive of me, like RE and JC, or patronizingly pretend nice like GA.
4. He has to do football stuff, blah, blah, blah....

The product of the search?
 
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What really should've been done was GDL being shown the door. If P refused, then can him to.

The fact that GDL is still on this staff is just utterly and grossly mind boggling.

Agree 110%... Plus you show PP that you mean business and are serious about the expectations this season by tossing PP's lifelong coaching partner GDL to the curb.
 
upstater,

Manuel was hired to deal with the bad public relations that came from the APR issue. I'm not saying APR is meaningful as a measure of academics,but even you have to admit that it was portrayed as such in the press. This is from his UB profile:
"After inheriting four programs – football, men’s basketball, wrestling, and baseball – that fell far below the NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) cut score of 925 when he arrived, diligent work and a focused academic plan led to all four sports – and indeed all 20 of UB’s intercollegiate sports – posting a four-year APR rate above the cut score. At the end of 2009-10, 10 of UB’s 20 sports had scores of 975 or above. "

And this is from the announcement of his hiring at UConn:
"From an academic standpoint, teams at Buffalo enjoyed incredible academic success. When Manuel arrived at UB, there were four programs - football, men's basketball, wrestling, and baseball - that fell far below the NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) cut score of 925. With a focused academic plan, all four teams posted a four-year APR rate above the cut score and at the end of 2009-10, 10 of UB's 20 sports had scores of 975 or above."

And there are other quotes as well. He got the job because of the PR benefit of having the guy who repaired Buffalo's APR image. Whether he actually did anything, or whether that problem took care of itself, or whether someone else did all the heavy lifting is totally irrelevant. He was given credit by everyone from UB to the NCAA (he got some award for it from them). UConn needed to make it look like it was changing its commitment to academics and he fit the bill. Really simple and straightforward.
 
upstater,

Manuel was hired to deal with the bad public relations that came from the APR issue. I'm not saying APR is meaningful as a measure of academics,but even you have to admit that it was portrayed as such in the press. This is from his UB profile:
"After inheriting four programs – football, men’s basketball, wrestling, and baseball – that fell far below the NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) cut score of 925 when he arrived, diligent work and a focused academic plan led to all four sports – and indeed all 20 of UB’s intercollegiate sports – posting a four-year APR rate above the cut score. At the end of 2009-10, 10 of UB’s 20 sports had scores of 975 or above. "

And this is from the announcement of his hiring at UConn:
"From an academic standpoint, teams at Buffalo enjoyed incredible academic success. When Manuel arrived at UB, there were four programs - football, men's basketball, wrestling, and baseball - that fell far below the NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR) cut score of 925. With a focused academic plan, all four teams posted a four-year APR rate above the cut score and at the end of 2009-10, 10 of UB's 20 sports had scores of 975 or above."

And there are other quotes as well. He got the job because of the PR benefit of having the guy who repaired Buffalo's APR image. Whether he actually did anything, or whether that problem took care of itself, or whether someone else did all the heavy lifting is totally irrelevant. He was given credit by everyone from UB to the NCAA (he got some award for it from them). UConn needed to make it look like it was changing its commitment to academics and he fit the bill. Really simple and straightforward.

This is incredibly.......I'll be nice......misinformed.
 
Hathaway had three major requirements and one general, all-encompassing requirement for RE's replacement.

1. He has to be nice to me; unlike JC and RE.
2. He has to treat me like something other than an empty suit.
3. He can't be dismissive of me, like RE and JC, or patronizingly pretend nice like GA.
4. He has to do football stuff, blah, blah, blah....

The product of the search?


You forgot 5. He has to be the guy Larry told me to hire.
 
. . .and while we wait for The Great Man to break his silence, here's the last time his name showed up in the media. Could be time for a fun caption contest. I'll start. . . .

"Listen seniors, if this goes into the crapper fast, don't expect me to bail you out"


At Practice, AD Manuel Tells Huskies To 'Have Some Fun'
Warde Manuel speaks to UConn football players on a beautiful afternoon… (Desmond Conner / Hartford…)
August 06, 2013|By DESMOND CONNER, dconner@courant.com, The Hartford Courant


STORRS — UConn athletic director Warde Manuel addressed the team before practice Tuesday.

"Coach Manuel!" a voice shouted as the team concluded stretching drills.

Manuel headed toward a circle of players who were kneeling. At 6 feet 5, Manuel towered over them.

"[Coach Paul Pasqualoni] just asked me to come in and say hello to the guys. I get a little jacked up when I say hello to the guys during football," Manuel said.

"The beginning of any season when I talk to our student-athletes brings back great memories of when I was a player," said Manuel, a former first team high school All American from New Orleans and a defensive lineman at Michigan (1986-89) under Bo Schembechler. "This is a time for them to really have some fun and know this is a game we're playing. We want to win but this is a fun time for them. This is what they worked hard [for] all offseason; whether it's football or basketball or soccer, you name it. Have some fun with it — and I had some fun."

It's also a serious time for the UConn football program and everyone knows it. Manuel didn't have to be reminded the team finished the past two seasons 5-7.

"Game by game I want us to play hard. I want us to have success on the field," Manuel said. "We're going to go into every game with a game plan to win knowing that we're going to give our all and success for them looks the same for me, that at the end of the game, we're ahead and the other team has scored less points than we've scored. The expectations are going to be high for what this team could do. We're looking at a new offensive coordinator coming, new defensive coordinator who has been here before so a lot of changes, lot of things in the air but it should be exciting; great schedule, great opportunity for these kids to go against some of the best in the country and to be at home doing it. You want it for them and you want it for our fans."
 
. . .and while we wait for The Great Man to break his silence, here's the last time his name showed up in the media. Could be time for a fun caption contest. I'll start. . . .

"Listen seniors, if this goes into the crapper fast, don't expect me to bail you out"


At Practice, AD Manuel Tells Huskies To 'Have Some Fun'


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Warde Manuel speaks to UConn football players on a beautiful afternoon… (Desmond Conner / Hartford…)
August 06, 2013|By DESMOND CONNER, dconner@courant.com, The Hartford Courant

STORRS — UConn athletic director Warde Manuel addressed the team before practice Tuesday.

"Coach Manuel!" a voice shouted as the team concluded stretching drills.

Manuel headed toward a circle of players who were kneeling. At 6 feet 5, Manuel towered over them.

"[Coach Paul Pasqualoni] just asked me to come in and say hello to the guys. I get a little jacked up when I say hello to the guys during football," Manuel said.

"The beginning of any season when I talk to our student-athletes brings back great memories of when I was a player," said Manuel, a former first team high school All American from New Orleans and a defensive lineman at Michigan (1986-89) under Bo Schembechler. "This is a time for them to really have some fun and know this is a game we're playing. We want to win but this is a fun time for them. This is what they worked hard [for] all offseason; whether it's football or basketball or soccer, you name it. Have some fun with it — and I had some fun."

It's also a serious time for the UConn football program and everyone knows it. Manuel didn't have to be reminded the team finished the past two seasons 5-7.

"Game by game I want us to play hard. I want us to have success on the field," Manuel said. "We're going to go into every game with a game plan to win knowing that we're going to give our all and success for them looks the same for me, that at the end of the game, we're ahead and the other team has scored less points than we've scored. The expectations are going to be high for what this team could do. We're looking at a new offensive coordinator coming, new defensive coordinator who has been here before so a lot of changes, lot of things in the air but it should be exciting; great schedule, great opportunity for these kids to go against some of the best in the country and to be at home doing it. You want it for them and you want it for our fans."
Or not...
 
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I agree. Also, it's not like Uconn's #1 target to replace PP is just sitting around this season.
Things have to get really bad before PP is fired. It could happen, but I agree, not after one bad loss.


I think things are pretty bad when you lose to a FCS team after paying them $250,000
 
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I'm a little weirded out that Jimmy Serranno and whaler11 posted exactly what I was going to say.

The goal is for UConn to have the best coach it can get for 2014. An AD running around like a chicken with its head cut off, or a crazy homeless person with a sandwichboard sign "THE END IS NEAR!!!!" doesn't attract good HC candidates. I guess if he went out, publicly undermined the football coach in front of the cameras, some of the fans would feel slightly less bad. If he fires PP now, the fans will feel better. But we might find out in another 2-3 years that Weist isn't the right guy, at the cost of missing out on the right up-and-coming guy. Are you willing to gamble on that right now in return for momentary satisfaction?

Who said Weist IS the right guy. And who's talking about 2-3 years. UConn football's gonna need a bigger boat. Name Brand, outstanding recruiter and offense oriented.
 
Weiss' offense scored 18 points against a FCS team so let's make him the HC??

Should be more criticism of him to be honest.

If it spirals the one thing we need to see is Whitmer gone. He can't play at this level.

You can't fire coaches mid season. What's the point? You can't hire anyone and it only puts the interim candidates in terrible positions.

Make Weist interim head coach? Ridiculously unfair to him and it puts him in an impossible spot.
 
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Are you kidding?
Take off your sheet a hole or at least cut bigger holes so you can see we're not in 1960 Alabama...
He looks like Al Roker. Did not know observing that looking like somebody is a mind crime. If it were the 60s he wouldn't have the job, but since its 2013 he does and he is held to a standard of performance. Thus far, he sucks, whatever the race. Nice try.
 
Weiss' offense scored 18 points against a FCS team so let's make him the HC??

Should be more criticism of him to be honest.

If it spirals the one thing we need to see is Whitmer gone. He can't play at this level.

It was our offensive center who was asking,"What the duck is going on? Why isn't this working?!" In the first half I might add. Read the story on the SB blog and see how many wiffed blocks are mentioned. It's the line coach, we still are confused 25 games in. That's not Weist's fault.
 
6 days and counting . . . .

Today's blast from the past when Warde was eager to talk

UConn AD Confirms Paul Pasqualoni Will Return, But Wants To See Adjustments

December 04, 2012|
By DESMOND CONNER, dconner@courant.com,
The Hartford Courant

UConn athletic director Warde Manuel confirmed Tuesday that football coach Paul Pasqualoni will be back for a third season.

The Huskies wrapped up their second consecutive 5-7 season under Pasqualoni with a 34-17 loss Saturday to Cincinnati at Rentschler Field.

Manuel had a meeting Monday with Pasqualoni in which the two discussed the direction and future of the program. Manuel said he expects to see some adjustments next season, but would not discuss specifics of the meeting.

"It was a very good meeting. … Paul knew my decision, so it wasn't designed as an evaluation or anything," Manuel said. "There weren't any ultimatums or anything like that. I don't manage by threatening."

Manuel confirmed that the two talked about the coaching staff. He said he did not tell Pasqualoni to make any changes.

A source with knowledge of the meeting, however, said Manuel did suggest that someone other than offensive coordinator George DeLeone should call the plays next season.

The Huskies' offense has been dreadful the past two seasons. Personnel is an issue but trying to get that personnel to perform at Division I-A level was a chore and the national statistics bear out that fact: UConn was 109th out of 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools in total offense.

"Paul is the leader of the team," Manuel said. "He's got to make the best decisions he feels from a staff standpoint, from a players standpoint. We had conversations in general about it, but I'm not going to dictate to my coaches who does what on the staff."

"I sit down and do the same thing with all my coaches after the season whether we're undefeated or we struggle but obviously, if we struggle, those conversations are a little bit more frequent," Manuel said.

"Look, I saw a team that played up and down, but played hard, never quit, wasn't lack of effort. As I said earlier in the season, we need to improve on the mistakes. Coaches need to make better decisions all around and put [the players] in better positions. Everybody has to improve. In my conversations with Paul, I know he's working on that. I know he understands what he needs to do to be better next season. So I totally expect we'll make the adjustments we need, that we'll recruit student-athletes that can come in and try to help us now where we need it, and that we'll develop the players that are coming back — all in an effort to ensure success on the field."

Manuel said he does not have any number of wins in mind that the Huskies must get next season. It is fair to say that his expectation for next season is to be in a bowl game?

"Yes," he said. "That's fair, sure, but to that point about managing, I don't want people operating under fear. Now, they should be operating under a strong expectation of success, but not fear — there's a difference."

The Huskies have come up a win shy of postseason eligibility each of the past two seasons. The Huskies' 2013 schedule is tougher than it was in 2012, especially in the non-conference portion because it includes Michigan and Maryland (Towson and Buffalo are also in the mix with the Huskies needing one more non-conference game).

If the Huskies don't go to a bowl game, then the reasons why they didn't go will be the focus, and that could produce one result. Pasqualoni's tenure could end three years into a five-year deal.

The other side of the UConn football equation is the frustrated fan base.

"I hear our fans and I understand their disappointment, but we're going to make the adjustments to have a better performance on the field than we had this year," Manuel said.
 
Give up the jihad dude... Few people on here care that WM isn't blowing smoke up the fans a$$es. Hollow words would mean nothing and probably just piss off more people.

I'm sure he's made his feelings known again where it counts.
 
Give up the jihad dude... Few people on here care that WM isn't blowing smoke up the fans a$$es. Hollow words would mean nothing and probably just piss off more people.

I'm sure he's made his feelings known again where it counts.


Alrighty then, that should take care of it. More stern words to a chosen few, not the ever-shrinking season ticket base.

Who says the words have to be blowing smoke or hollow? "I've accepted Paul Pasqualoni's resignation" or "I've accepted George DeLeone's resignation, and Mike Foley will be our offensive line coach going forward" wouldn't be so hollow, would it?

BTW, this isn't 'hostility'. I think of it as accountability, especially for somebody who just got a $22,500 raise. I actually think he's done a decent job, and I think if he was king he would have canned PP after last season. But his silence in this instance, after he's been very quotable, is a fail, IMO.

PS there's plenty more in the archives, medic. You can look forward to a 10:30 p.m update every night until The Great Man speaks
 
Alrighty then, that should take care of it. More stern words to a chosen few, not the ever-shrinking season ticket base.

Who says the words have to be blowing smoke or hollow? "I've accepted Paul Pasqualoni's resignation" or "I've accepted George DeLeone's resignation, and Mike Foley will be our offensive line coach going forward" wouldn't be so hollow, would it?

BTW, this isn't 'hostility'. I think of it as accountability, especially for somebody who just got a $22,500 raise. I actually think he's done a decent job, and I think if he was king he would have canned PP after last season. But his silence in this instance, after he's been very quotable, is a fail, IMO.

PS there's plenty more in the archives, medic. You can look forward to a 10:30 p.m update every night until The Great Man speaks

Hey - you pay the same subscription fee here that I do... Post away.

I didn't catch the AD's of Oregon State, Kansas State, USF, etc... making public comments after their loses. Don't get me wrong Ruskin, the Towson game was downright disgusting and them tossing GDL would make me do the Randy Edsall Happy Dance throughout the Blue Lot, I just don't think you will hear what you are expecting/demanding to hear after one game. You're preaching to the wrong people - send your updates direct to WM w/ a cc to SH and the BOT.
 
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