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UConnJim said:
What a short memory. Edsall took UConn from 1AA to a BCS Conference. When he took over, UConn played at Memorial Field with no indoor practice facility. After going to the Big East, Edsall and UConn went 50-37 playing harder schedules than we play today. His last 4 seasons were 9-4, 8-5, 8-5, and 8-5. Sure, we all wanted UConn to have a really breakthrough season, but who wouldn't love to see an 8-5 record now!
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That was a long time ago. Times and kids have changed Edsall has not. Seems like a get off my lawn kind of
 
businesslawyer said:
Not quite spectacular for Oklahoma. For who we were and where we came from -- you're just dead wrong.
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Disagree. Edsall was fine, but IMHO we weren't going to progress any further than we did under him. So if that long FG missed, was it still spectacular? was the league up or down that year? Yes, we go into the Fiesta fair and square, but Edsall was the same coach if that FG is missed.
 
cohenzone said:
Disagree. Edsall was fine, but IMHO we weren't going to progress any further than we did under him. So if that long FG missed, was it still spectacular? was the league up or down that year? Yes, we go into the Fiesta fair and square, but Edsall was the same coach if that FG is missed.
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Those of us around long enough remember the people who said exactly this. That Edsall would never get to .500 in the Big East. That Edsall would never beat a top 25 team. That Edsall would never share a Big East title. That Edsall could never take us to a BCS bowl game.

Every time we hit these targets that we were told we’d never hit, the goalposts would move. This is where @Palatine and @Waquoit lose a lot of credibility when they knock Edsall.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
Those of us around long enough remember the people who said exactly this. That Edsall would never get to .500 in the Big East. That Edsall would never beat a top 25 team. That Edsall would never share a Big East title. That Edsall could never take us to a BCS bowl game.

Every time we hit these targets that we were told we’d never hit, the goalposts would move. This is where @Palatine and @Waquoit lose a lot of credibility when they knock Edsall.
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I've never seen you get so sentimental, Serrano. Didn't realize you had so much love for 'ol Randy
 
So our defense sucks. If RE doesn't replace coordinator he co-owns the results next year. If the D doesn't turn around he might get a fourth year but it will be his last shot. No matter how poor the talent is the right coach and staff will over-perform not reflect or under-perform.

In the meantime he needs to at least state affirmatively and Coach games like he is playing to win. He may have already lost some guys with his dumb statements. Now would be a good time to leave the OC and DC's to Coach their units and focus on preparation, morale, game management, player evaluation and recruiting. When the season ends decide on Crocker and try to fill the obvious holes with Transfers and JuCo's. There needs to be a big improvement on D or the season will be over early for the fans next year.

Totally understand the retread argument and what led to the decision. After 3 years that may not be enough reason to stay the course. Hate the thought of another transition after 3 or 4 years without significant progress. We need to fix the D. That's everything right now.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Every time we hit these targets that we were told we’d never hit, the goalposts would move. This is where @Palatine and @Waquoit lose a lot of credibility when they knock Edsall.
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I'm not a goalpost mover. But I've consistently believed Edsall is full of it. Now more than ever. I pretty much kept my mouth shut and wanted to be a believer like Pudge. But that UMass game and his subsequent comments really bothered me.
 
BlueDogs said:
You can't have buy-in to an approach that is failing at historic levels for two seasons. You buy into plans and systems that at least show positive change. Do an eye test and compare Hurley to RE. A down and out losing squad in March and now a different attitude level, better execution, focused on fundamentals, etc...not perfect but you see .
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This really sums things up. How can you buy into a system, as a fan or a player, if it’s failed at historic levels for two seasons?
Yes, Hurley and his sense of urgency is a stark contrast. Ironically, Chief was thinking the other day, Danny will be Randy’s downfall. True, the sports have differences - but the attitude, enthusiasm and accountability transcends differences between sports.
 
Bubba1957 said:
I don't buy any of the "only likes his guys" stuff. Hahn is a Diaco recruit, RE seems to like him plenty. Many people on this board have been critical of his play - still RE plays him. The two deep on D includes, Murphy, Atkins, Garson, Hahn, Terry, Gilmartin, Coyle and a few others where recruitment was started by BD. The whole O line including the two deep at tight end are BD buys (Crozier might predate him). Also the kicker. Without any other evidence, I trust that the guys who deserve to play - are playing.
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If the OL and TE’s are BD’s guys and many say it’s our relative best unit - what does that say about the players RE has brought in?
Pindell is the one RE guy who jumps off the page and he is a JUCO guy - so for those who criticize loading up on JUCO’s next season , that’s a reality consideration.
 
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Chief00 said:
If the OL and TE’s are BD’s guys and many say it’s our relative best unit - what does that say about the players RE has brought in?
Pindell is the one RE guy who jumps off the page and he is a JUCO guy - so for those who criticize loading up on JUCO’s next season , that’s a reality consideration.
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Edsall has one full year of his recruits and two years of you count the class he inherited and added a little too. They are true freshmen. Are you judging HCRE recruits based off one season? That’s something a casual fan would do.

I agree that a coach has to look all over for talent - JUCO, Grad Transfers, Regular Transfers included. And it looks like the staff has been looking at all options.

Of the true freshman getting time, I see a ton of flashes. Some I can already tell are going to be monsters (Travis Jones, Lwal Uguak) with more time in the program.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Those of us around long enough remember the people who said exactly this. That Edsall would never get to .500 in the Big East. That Edsall would never beat a top 25 team. That Edsall would never share a Big East title. That Edsall could never take us to a BCS bowl game.

Every time we hit these targets that we were told we’d never hit, the goalposts would move. This is where @Palatine and @Waquoit lose a lot of credibility when they knock Edsall.
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My fear ...

I think Edsall hasn’t changed. He’s a solid evaluator of talent & a great guy to find unorthodox raw athletes for football in the Northeast. I do think he is good as ever in selecting and development of assistant coaches. The decade since his UConn 1.0 has shown a far different football flavor. This rebuild is going to be painful. This fan base is not eager for the climb back.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Thank you. That’s all that I aspire to be.
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It’s really the most millennial post ever. Kids who aren’t good enough to play at this level have a case of the sadz because the new guy comes in and has “his guys”. Welcome to the real world. I’m sorry your feelings are hurt. You don’t like it? There’s the door. God knows we could use some more open spots to fill with players who can compete at this level.
 
Pudge said:
My fear ...

I think Edsall hasn’t changed. He’s a solid evaluator of talent & a great guy to find unorthodox raw athletes for football in the Northeast. I do think he is good as ever in selecting and development of assistant coaches. The decade since his UConn 1.0 has shown a far different football flavor. This rebuild is going to be painful. This fan base is not eager for the climb back.
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He hasn’t changed. I don’t think he’s the right guy at this juncture but he’s the best option we could afford. The program will live or die based on how he performs. I hope I’m wrong about where I think this program will be in 5 years.
 
The Diggs tweet shows what the players really feel. No current player is in a position to criticize the coach --any coach. Not if that player ever wants to see the field. To the players, all that matters is the now. Most coaches feel the same way. Forget last week. Don't look ahead. How are you getting better today? When a coach stops caring about today, you're screwed.
 
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Palatine said:
The Diggs tweet shows what the players really feel. No current player is in a position to criticize the coach --any coach. Not if that player ever wants to see the field. To the players, all that matters is the now. Most coaches feel the same way. Forget last week. Don't look ahead. How are you getting better today? When a coach stops caring about today, you're screwed.
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One tweet shows how all the players feel? That’s not a stretch. Not at all.

Are you saying Coch Edsall doesn’t focus on improvement every single day? That’s not a stretch. Not at all.
 
Palatine said:
The Diggs tweet shows what the players really feel. No current player is in a position to criticize the coach --any coach. Not if that player ever wants to see the field. To the players, all that matters is the now. Most coaches feel the same way. Forget last week. Don't look ahead. How are you getting better today? When a coach stops caring about today, you're screwed.
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Less than 24 hours ago we heard from 2 key 4-year players that said they were excited to stay and continue to build what's been started. There's nothing keeping them here, they're choosing to stay.

Their words tell me more about how the players really feel than what you think the players really feel. Are there discouraged players in that locker room? Of course there are - that's college football.
 
blue93 said:
Less than 24 hours ago we heard from 2 key 4-year players that said they were excited to stay and continue to build what's been started. There's nothing keeping them here, they're choosing to stay.

Their words tell me more about how the players really feel than what you think the players really feel. Are there discouraged players in that locker room? Of course there are - that's college football.
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Current players, duh. Current players, college or pro, in almost any sport, know the coach controls every aspect of their life headed forward, which is why you almost never hear any player criticize a coach. It's suicide. Saying nice things about the guy who controls your destiny is smart. There is no risk. Only upside.

That doesn't mean all players think alike. Some genuinely love the coach especially if they are getting playing time. It you have problems ith the coach, keep quiet, don't make it worse. Regardless, all the players know how the system works.
 
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Palatine said:
The Diggs tweet shows what the players really feel.
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Palatine said:
That doesn't mean all players think alike. Some genuine love the coach especially if they are getting playing time. It you have problems ith the coach, keep quiet, don't make it worse. Regardless, all the players know how the system works.
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These are entirely different statements. My point was that you can't lump all of the players into what Diggs said, when it's clearly not the case. I think you understand that though based on your response. Enough said.
 
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Palatine said:
Current players, duh. Current players, college or pro, in almost any sport, know the coach controls every aspect of their life headed forward, which is why you almost never hear any player criticize a coach. It's suicide. Saying nice things about the guy who controls your destiny is smart. There is no risk. Only upside.

That doesn't mean all players think alike. Some genuinely love the coach especially if they are getting playing time. It you have problems ith the coach, keep quiet, don't make it worse. Regardless, all the players know how the system works.
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Agree. Didn't hear a lot of complaining about Diaco by players, sure there was a lot. Quiet only proves head coach has iron fist on info coming out. Think Crocker is happy about canning the 3-3-5, why don't we hear about it? Think Pindell likes HCRE2.0 dig about his digits, yet all he said was have no problem throwing in the rain.
Let's see how many freshman transfer out and the quality of the 2019 recruiting class and any Juco's signing on. That will tell. Never too early to stop going in the wrong direction.
 
blue93 said:
These are entirely different statements. My point was that you can't lump all of the players into what Diggs said, when it's clearly not the case. I think you understand that though based on your response. Enough said.
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Oh the twisted webs we weave. All we have here are the words we type on the internet. Chief and Palatine getting stuck in their twisted web of logic.
 
Husky68 said:
Agree. Didn't hear a lot of complaining about Diaco by players, sure there was a lot. Quiet only proves head coach has iron fist on info coming out. Think Crocker is happy about canning the 3-3-5, why don't we hear about it? Think Pindell likes HCRE2.0 dig about his digits, yet all he said was have no problem throwing in the rain.
Let's see how many freshman transfer out and the quality of the 2019 recruiting class and any Juco's signing on. That will tell. Never too early to stop going in the wrong direction.
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Why would freshmen recruited by Edsall leave after year one? I anticipate some transfers but it will be by Diaco recruits dropping down a level (or two) to get playing time.
 
Listen, we get that you're upset that the team is 1–9. That doesn't make your assumptions abut team morale any more accurate.
 
blue93 said:
Less than 24 hours ago we heard from 2 key 4-year players that said they were excited to stay and continue to build what's been started. There's nothing keeping them here, they're choosing to stay.

Their words tell me more about how the players really feel than what you think the players really feel. Are there discouraged players in that locker room? Of course there are - that's college football.
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You realize those two players are on FULL scholarship and likely won't make it at the next level. Why would they leave and where would they go? They're playing at an FBS level now. Even as grad transfers, what FBS schools are going to take them and play them. Football probably isn't in their futures. Live out the dream for one more season and venture out into the real world. Maybe they get an invite to a pro camp, but they’re not a lock to play on Sundays. Davis is limited in what he brings to the TE position. He's more of a flex TE. Maybe he gets bigger an develops the ability to play inline and block, but he hasn't done that here. Peart has ability but to me he hasn't improved that much in four years and continues to make freshman mistakes.

Being 4-years starters at UConn isn't going to carry much weight anywhere else, just sayin'.
 
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This recruiting season MUST be impactful in order for Crocker to survive. my two cents...
 
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