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Obviously Ash if you were goîng to do it
Ash played more minutes last night than anyone. On a team where everyone plays hard, Ash plays harder than anyone. She flies around the court hunting rebounds, closing out on shooters and if you don't cover her, she can kill you from the arc. If we are talking about someone who has earned a starting spot through hard work and effort, no one has earned it more than Ash.
 
Shade only scored two points, but I thought this was one of her best games of the year. It seemed like every time Villanova turned the ball over, she was somewhere close to it -- doubling a player, in a passing lane, grabbing a pass a teammate had tipped.

Plus three offensive rebounds after (IIRC) the second game this season when she hadn't gotten one.
No one disputes Ash's defense and hustle, but a starter needs to contribute more than 2 points to the offense. Trying to alter her shot mechanics to the faster game pace is proving to be a challenge.
 
I was only able to watch the first half due to other commitments last night. At one point VIllanova put together a nice 10 - 0 run to get the lead down from over 20 points to just over 10 points and I was thinking "this isn't good." Two minutes later, including a three by Azzi, the score was back up to nearly 20 and the route was on. It must be very frustrating to try to run any kind of offense against the Huskies.
 
The scary thing for the rest of WCBB is that the Huskies are improving and this year someone gets a boo boo, we've got someone else who can come in and do the job.
 
No, I'm suggesting that she's earned it. And, actually, I think she's steadily earning more minutes. To suggest that playing her would be a gift really sells her short. You surprise me. The only players on that team who understand the game as well as Caroline does are Azzi and Sarah.
But you're right, that's not Geno's style. He is a bit of a savant, he is stuck on that starting group, and that's the way it's gonna be.
No your wrong..she looks really slow out there on both ends of the court..everyone loves Caroline and appreciates all she has been through but she is the 10th person in the rotation behind Blanka,K9,Jana and Allie for a reason..the speed the way Uconn plays the game there is no way Caroline would fit in ..on top of that she can't shoot..a carreer 28.8% 3 pt shooter with this year shooting a dismal 13.3% and only 31% overall
I'd also say that k9 understands the game quite well also
 
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At one point in the third quarter (I think) Bascoe got caught in a trap and lost the ball out of bounds. It looked like she wanted to complain to the refs and may have lost her temper when the camera cut away, the analysts were chatting on a tangent, and then apparently coach Dillon had subbed her out of the game. Bascoe didn’t return for several minutes. Did anyone who was at the game see what happened?
Didnt she turn an ankle on a different play? Or was that someone else??
 
Don't forget Miles of TCU
I said “pure pg.”. I know it’s splitting hairs. But I would suggest that Miles is more of a combo guard. In any event Miles isn’t close to KK when it comes to defense.
 
At one point in the third quarter (I think) Bascoe got caught in a trap and lost the ball out of bounds. It looked like she wanted to complain to the refs and may have lost her temper when the camera cut away, the analysts were chatting on a tangent, and then apparently coach Dillon had subbed her out of the game. Bascoe didn’t return for several minutes. Did anyone who was at the game see what happened?
Frustration. UConn is trapping these opponents into submission. I don’t mean a trap that leads to a bad pass, which happens too. Her only way out is to drill a hole in the floor. It happened 2-3 times. She was beside herself. She wanted help from her coach. This was brutal! People are saying Villanova is a top 25 team. I’m not knocking Nova, UConn is a video game. It can’t be real. That’s what Bascoe was feeling.
She got free throws from an Azzi foul at the elbow on a trap. Azzi locked her in with her legs. Arguable for sure.
Something not mentioned a ton is how physically strong UConn players are as well as fast and quick.
 
-as usual the defensive pressure was too much. This time forcing 25 turnovers.

-KK gets my vote for player of the game. Just a terrific all around game in just 22 minutes.

- Sarah filled up the stat sheet as usual but at least McCurry challenged her a little.

-You can tell how much Geno respects the Wildcats. His rotation was a little tighter than normal in the first half

-Third straight game that Serah was called for 3 seconds. Unusual because you rarely see it called anywhere else. Part of the problem is that it takes forever for her to make her move.

-This team is fearless going to the basket and finishing through contact.

-99 points against the second place team in the BE.

-Looking forward to the revenge match against ND.
Good point about Serah but makes me wonder and ask the following: Do refs share observations with each other on things to look out for or be aware of re: player tendencies? Besides the 3-second calls against Serah, what about the charging fouls when Blanca drives to the basket (even though the defender was still moving and feet were not stationary) or how about the fouls charged against Ash? Just seems these happen a little too frequently on a game-to-game basis to not be something that refs aren't made aware of and therefore are looking for, ready to blow the whistle. Any refs in the audience?
 
OK, let’s say Caroline has earned a start. She is most definitely a Wing/forward. You can’t start her at center because that would be a negative mismatch in the post and she doesn’t have the handle to play the guard spot. That leaves two possibilities. So who do you sit: Sarah or Azzi?
I love Caroline and feel for everything she has been through. She is just not athletic enough to make the rotation with the current roster. Different level. Watch Blanca, Heckel - those are the players coming off the bench.
Not saying she couldn’t help if we were hit by a bunch of injuries and I’m happy to see her get 4 th quarter extended minutes in these blow outs. But starting? Or even top 8 player. Not happening. Geno knows what he’s doing.
 
I thought, at the start of the game, that the 'cats really showed some preparation in breaking the UConn press. On several early occasions they were able to advance the ball into the front court quite handily. But in no time our defense started to wear them down, and that preparation edge seemed to disappear. Our defensive discipline and communication was maintained at a higher level throughout the game than in any other game this season. They're like a swarm of bees. It seemed like every Villanova ballhandler, whether in backcourt or frontcourt, was doubleteamed, to the extent that the ballhandler couldn't even see a possible pass recipient. All I kept thinking about was the countless hours of practice that kind of play takes.

And on offense, the passing seemed crisper than at any time this year. That being said, it's understandable that some passes go awry. I get the feeling that when the offense is clicking on such a high level, Geno doesn't mind if an occasional pass is intercepted.

Can't help but be impressed with this team. And yet, Geno still feels they don't hold a candle to the teams who were being honored last night. I wonder if he'll say the same if they continue to improve and win out this year.

As to Geno, his aches and pains are becoming more noticeable at the post-game pressers, through his frequent stretches and flexing of his left elbow, shoulder and back, his facial grimaces and verbal grunts. What he probably needs is a good, deep massage on a regular basis.

And what we should do is let up on all the speculation about his successor. He's obviously enjoying this team immensely, to say nothing of salivating about the prospects on their way in. Let's sit back and enjoy the genius and his staff work this magic while we can. We're watching basketball history in the making.
 
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The 3 second calls on Serah seem to be unevenly enforced. One play, I started counting when she went into the lane, and she got the ball before 3, and it still got called. Reminds me of players in the past that were unfairly tagged with doing certain "things" and it seemed the referees would make those calls based on past calls and not what was actually happening.
I agree with you 100%. Two "bigs" come to mind: Natalie Butler and Jana. IMHO they were/are treated differently.
 
Good point about Serah but makes me wonder and ask the following: Do refs share observations with each other on things to look out for or be aware of re: player tendencies? Besides the 3-second calls against Serah, what about the charging fouls when Blanca drives to the basket (even though the defender was still moving and feet were not stationary) or how about the fouls charged against Ash? Just seems these happen a little too frequently on a game-to-game basis to not be something that refs aren't made aware of and therefore are looking for, ready to blow the whistle. Any refs in the audience?
Better now than to be surprised by it in March.
I agree about Blanca’s “charge”. Not sure about Ash. I’m not on the ground. Remember Dawn fussing in the Championship game. Tessa obviously grabbing Ash’s arm. All due respect, UConn’s defense is so dominant that refs may be missing some stuff. I love it, but how can you engulf offensive players in traps without fouling.
Sorry, Serah needs big-time help with her post moves. She can’t play low post in the W, as it stands today. Every team has a couple Janas. I hope CD and Jamelle are doing daily extra work with her.
 
KK played like a mad thing, and Sarah was incredible, Blanca was dazzling and absurd at the same time, Azzi was quietly steady and reliable after missing a few layups early – and it was all against a tough scrappy Villanova team. And through it all, Ash had a fierce game though she only scored 2 pts. But everything else she did was golden
Love how solid Azzi is in all aspects of her game, particulary areas she has improved in such as defense and driving to basket. Among the best in country now in both. Am I the only one who would like to see her start to shoot more again? She is still one of the best but we may need MVP Azzi in the playoffs.
 
She did contribute a lot. However, on offense , I would like to see more. As a freshman, I thought she made more of her 2 point shots. She is really struggling to put the ball in the basket.
Wow!!! Tough audience, even for Boneyard!
 

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Watched the game twice to really enjoy it. Aside from a 10-0 run by Nova in Q2, there was very little to complain/worry about. I think Nova is well coached and has a good future, but on no planet is anyone but Geno the COY in the BE. Why? He lost Paige and Chen - 2 huge starters. He's got 1 starter who is brand new, and all the core players off the bench are brand new save for Allie (who for a lot of reasons didn't do much last season), and Jana. He's mixed and matched every game, sometimes with poor results, but he's finding what works.

And it's not that this team has "way more talent than anyone else". Sure Sarah is magnificent. Azzi can be at times. Blanca is one of the best freshmen in the country. But KK, Ash, Serah, Allie, Kayleigh, and Jana? Geno and co. have coached the hell out of those guys. And IMHO he deserves to be recognized for getting them all to play more and more total minutes like a well oiled machine. Instead of "pooh-poohing" UConn because they have much talent, people should look at HOW he's gotten them so good this season after losing what we lost and adding so many new pieces (rant off LOL).

For the game... The defense was again elite. The double teams and held balls we caused were so frustrating for 'Nova.
  • Sarah. OMG. That under the basket reverse layup was extraordinary. And everything she does is elite. Just wow. NPOY
  • Azzi - not concerned, per-se, but her inability to make layups lately is odd. But her defense is elite. I hope she gets some momentum and publicity for DPOY in the BE. It would be deserving
  • KK - one of the best PG's in the country IMHO. She's NOT a scoring PG like some who get way more attention, but she is aggressive and scores when open, is a masterful runner of the offense, and plays elite defense every second.
  • Ash - off shooting night, but a total dog with a bone warrior. Loved seeing her get those tie-ups, and kind of get into it with one of the Nova players who tried to rip the ball out of her hands. Do NOT mess with Ash LOL. For those few who keep complaining that she should come off the bench, not gonna happen. She does too many good things out there.
  • Serah - continues to be competent. But watching her and some of the mistakes she makes - those are freshman mistakes, not senior mistakes.
  • Blanca - I hope she gets some scratch as 6th woman of the year nationally. She's for sure one of the top freshmen in the country, and isn't even a starter
  • Slowly but surely, Kayleigh seems to be getting a little better every game. SO glad we have her.
  • Allie is such a surprise to me this season (maybe not to Geno and the staff tho). So glad she's blossoming.
The bench had a really solid 4th quarter. It seemed like most of it was against Nova's bench, but still, it was nice seeing Yanna and Caroline especially look smooth. Kelis has some terrific drives and scores, but I do wonder how good her PG skills are at this time. Her passes often seem mis-timed or ill advised - something that will come with experience. I really do think she's gonna be a good one.

Bottom line, a really good game especially in prep for the ND game coming up. A really healthy amount of minutes of high quality basketball from the team.
 
No one disputes Ash's defense and hustle, but a starter needs to contribute more than 2 points to the offense. Trying to alter her shot mechanics to the faster game pace is proving to be a challenge.
Not really with UConn's best teams. Ash's role reminds me a lot of Kia Nurse, Kelly Faris, and Kaleena Greene where they were largely the glue players doing the dirty work and not depended on to be prolific scorers. They often were situational scorers and sometimes dubbed streaky. That often means they scored when that is what the defense gave as the opponent picked their poison. The glue players can often be the smartest on the floor since they are flexible enough to do what's necessary. Carla Berube was a glue player.

I wish folks could come to the realization that Ash does the things necessary for the Sara Strong's of the world to focus on their strengths and be amazing. Trust me, 5 Sara Strongs on the floor would be a hot mess.
 
I said “pure pg.”. I know it’s splitting hairs. But I would suggest that Miles is more of a combo guard. In any event Miles isn’t close to KK when it comes to defense.
What is a "pure point-guard"? A point guard who doesn't score? I vote for doing away with the term in today's spread offenses. Same could be said for "pure center".
KK is a key player on this team, the #1 ranked team. We saw what it looked like when she was out. (Nika fouling out versus ND)
Like a perfect recipe, KK is a crucial ingredient. The world could see that and speak about her accordingly. Same could be said about Ash.
I'll make a bet today, regardless of whether this talk remains the same, KK as a top 10 draft pick. I wonder where she would fall if she was able to come out this year. Are "combo guards" a dime-a-dozen?
Like NFL running backs. When we were young, they were the top picks. Now teams fill RB slots off the waiver wire.
Here's a question for us: Would we replace KK with Olivia? Tough one.
 
I see we’re no longer discussing the game. Please either get back on track or I’ll lock the thread

For those introducing new topics, please start a new thread. Other people, who have moved on from last night’s game, might be interested in your topic but would never see it because it’s buried in a game thread
 
One other comment about the game last night. 6 years ago Kylee Watson was the #17 recruit in the nation. Paige was #1. Much was made of the fact that last night Watson had the opportunity to be the only player ever to beat UConn while playing for 3 different teams, having already beaten UConn while on the rosters of both Oregon & ND. Of course that didn’t happen.

But when Watson transferred to Villanova, they were getting a legitimate 6’4” Big and one of the highest ranked players in the BE not playing for UConn. Here’s my question. What in the hell happened to Kylee Watson? I understand she’s had an injury or two. But she was a starter and/or significant role player at both Oregon & ND. At Villanova, she’s an afterthought.

Last night Watson played only 9 minutes. She missed her 2 shots from the floor, hit 2 FT’s, pulled down 1 rebound and committed 1 turnover. One sequence was particularly telling. Sarah drove right at her, pulled up and hit an 8 ft bank shot that Watson barely contested. On the next Nova possession, Watson received the ball in the low blocks, turned to shoot and Sarah easily blocked the shot.

In her 6th year of college basketball, Watson’s impact is surprisingly limited.
 
OK, let’s say Caroline has earned a start. She is most definitely a Wing/forward. You can’t start her at center because that would be a negative mismatch in the post and she doesn’t have the handle to play the guard spot. That leaves two possibilities. So who do you sit: Sarah or Azzi?
Except for the post and point , I think the other 3 are pretty flexible. She handles the ball as well as Shade, certainly can't defend with her, but even at this point I think she offers more offensively. Not gonna happen, so I'm going to put away my wishing and hoping.
By the way, Geno did do some gifting, years ago, to Nykesha Sales. Have to admit that, even though she was one of my very favorite players, I did not think that it was the right thing to do.
 
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I love Caroline and feel for everything she has been through. She is just not athletic enough to make the rotation with the current roster. Different level. Watch Blanca, Heckel - those are the players coming off the bench.
Not saying she couldn’t help if we were hit by a bunch of injuries and I’m happy to see her get 4 th quarter extended minutes in these blow outs. But starting? Or even top 8 player. Not happening. Geno knows what he’s doing.
I can't claim to know this, but I suspect Caroline would not be happy taking a single minute away from one of her teammates. She had some big moments before the injuries and I don't doubt she's crawled through hades to get back on the floor, but her time as a rotation player has passed. I hope she's working on coaching chops.
 
Regarding Caroline: somehow I just wish that Caroline's courage and determination were rewarded by letting her start a game. She might give up a bit on the defensive end, but so what. Offensively, she might even be an upgrade, depending who she started in place of. She seems to be getting stronger, and she just knows how to play the game. She would be thrilled! But , you know it won't happen.
Senior Night!
 
No your wrong..she looks really slow out there on both ends of the court..everyone loves Caroline and appreciates all she has been through but she is the 10th person in the rotation behind Blanka,K9,Jana and Allie for a reason..the speed the way Uconn plays the game there is no way Caroline would fit in ..on top of that she can't shoot..a carreer 28.8% 3 pt shooter with this year shooting a dismal 13.3% and only 31% overall
I'd also say that k9 understands the game quite well also
I remember when Geno started Carolyn Dote every game her senior year…then took her out at the 1st break. He could do that with today’s CD.
 
I thought, at the start of the game, that the 'cats really showed some preparation in breaking the UConn press. On several early occasions they were able to advance the ball into the front court quite handily. But in no time our defense started to wear them down, and that preparation edge seemed to disappear. Our defensive discipline and communication was maintained at a higher level throughout the game than in any other game this season. They're like a swarm of bees. It seemed like every Villanova ballhandler, whether in backcourt or frontcourt, was doubleteamed, to the extent that the ballhandler couldn't even see a possible pass recipient. All I kept thinking about was the countless hours of practice that kind of play takes.

And on offense, the passing seemed crisper than at any time this year. That being said, it's understandable that some passes go awry. I get the feeling that when the offense is clicking on such a high level, Geno doesn't mind if an occasional pass is intercepted.

Can't help but be impressed with this team. And yet, Geno still feels they don't hold a candle to the teams who were being honored last night. I wonder if he'll say the same if they continue to improve and win out this year.

As to Geno, his aches and pains are becoming more noticeable at the post-game pressers, through his frequent stretches and flexing of his left elbow, shoulder and back, his facial grimaces and verbal grunts. What he probably needs is a good, deep massage on a regular basis.

And what we should do is let up on all the speculation about his successor. He's obviously enjoying this team immensely, to say nothing of salivating about the prospects on their way in. Let's sit back and enjoy the genius and his staff work this magic while we can. We're watching basketball history in the making.
Agree with your last point. And we’ve been watching basketball history for over 30 years. We’re the most fortunate fans in the world!
 
Holy Cannoli! I had seen on social media that Dick Vitale was predicting a Nova upset. Knowing that Nova was the #2 team, I was hoping for a win by 20. When I saw that the point spread was about 35 or so, I was skeptical. But we beat that by 14. Are we lots better than everyone??

Who was the best player in the gym last night: Stewie, Pheesa, or Sarah? Who was the best shooter in the gym last night: Kaleena or Azzi? Who was the best defensive nemesis: Moriah or KK? I think we made the 2015 and 2016 teams proud!
 
Some thoughts on the Villanova game:
  • UConn royalty was in the house tonight as the 2015 & 2016 national champions were honored. Someone should ask Geno which team was better: 2015, 2016 or the one he has right now? 🧐
  • Denise Dillon is another outstanding coach. Villanova has been the 2nd best team in the BE and they are likely heading to the Big Dance. Some might suggest that UConn’s 49-point win over Villanova demonstrates how weak the conference is. I would suggest it demonstrates just how strong the Huskies are.
  • Bascoe is probably the best player in the BE who’s not a Husky. Tonight, against KK (a.k.a. Batgirl) and her UConn teammates Bascoe had a really tough night. For the game, Bascoe was 3/13 with only 8 points.
  • Last season, Ash & KK came off the bench to give the Huskies a jolt of energy. This season it’s Blanca & Kayleigh who supercharge the Huskies off the bench, particularly on defense. To Paraphrase Jim Flannery, "Every team in WBB wishes they had Blanca and Kayleigh coming off the bench."
  • Sarah is so good, so versatile and so effortless with her play that she racks up stats like she’s in a video game.
  • Let’s talk DEFENSE! The Huskies swarm opposing teams like angry bees, doubling whenever an opponent picks up the ball, getting their hands on the ball countless times, diving on the floor for loose balls and locking up opponents who make the mistake of picking up the ball in traffic. The Huskies held the Wildcats to 28% from the floor while forcing 26 turnovers.
  • The Huskies were a little better taking care of the ball tonight. But they still committed 14 turnovers, typically when they attempt to force passes through small windows. With that said, KK continues to be 3rd in the nation with an amazing 4.76 A/TO ratio.
  • I really appreciate Caroline's steady play as well as her ability to settle down the youngsters when she's on the floor, typically in the 4th qtr.
  • Everybody eats tonight!!!! 🤩
  • The Irish pay a visit to Gampel on Monday in what is surely MUST-SEE TV!
The play of the game was the bounce pass from Blanca to Kayleigh for a lay up. Jaw dropping in its beauty and audacity. Not to mention; its perfection.
 
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