Check out microfich's video in post 37 of the thread "When Ross plays were bette". It clearly demonstrates the refs and not Ross got faked completely out of their jocks. Player picked up the ball with two hands and double dribbled because of the attempted block.
Well, as a ball fan, I have witnessed several "incidental" situations where the Flagrant" call relied, not at all, upon "intent".
Check out microfich's video in post 37 of the thread "When Ross plays were bette". It clearly demonstrates the refs and not Ross got faked completely out of their jocks. Player picked up the ball with two hands and double dribbled because of the attempted block. Ross's jump at that point was because the clock was winding down and his player had no choice but to take the shot at that point or get called for shot clock violation. Refs missed the double dribble.
I saw that yesterday and just thought he was making a political statement. 🤣
I've noticed that when the action starts, Demary usually gets a pass out to the first, second or third player action, while Smith seems to miss some of the open players and just continues to dribble where he's standing or in one direction or the other. Granted often a handful of starters are in there when Smith comes in, and aren't always setting or hitting the screens effectively.
People have PTSD from when Ross would bite on pump fakes from the first half of his sophomore year.
Maybe he rose from the dead or came out of a coma.
I thought the same.
We'll have to disagree on this one because to me he clearly brings the ball to his second hand to begin a shooting position and then quickly starts to dribble after recognizing he was going to be blocked. Good defense by Ross. Better offense by Lindsay because he got away with it.
Yup, took me 6 tries to digest it, but yeah, the kid grabs the ball briefly with both hands reacting to the human kangaroo in front of him and then changes his mind and drives. Awesome, way to put a long discussion to rest!
I can’t really tell from the clip. If it’s not, it’s certainly VERY close. Doesn’t really matter to me though. Even if not a double dribble, it happens sometimes, wouldn’t make me think any different of Ross’ defense.
Yes, Ross reacted very early to a subtle move, needed to stay on the ground....but we won and had all this fun doing video review. Just wish we didn't have Mullins shot in video review also.
Yeah, I watched video multiple times and even frame by frame. Yes he clearly put two hands on the ball. That's an obvious missed double dribble and explains why Ross reacted the way he did.
Sorry if this may have been covered before but couldn't watch entire game and only saw a few snippets. Was a flagrant 1 or 2 assessed against #55 on Villanova for deliberately and dangerous;y punching Braylon in the head with his left hand while dribbling past? Tried playing that contact back multiple times with the ref no more than 6 feet away and looking directly at it and didn't see result. Can't believe at least a fragrant 1.
I looked it up last night. The '23 team, 20 games in, was 15-5.
I thought the rule was that a blow to the head was automatically a flagrant 1 whether intentional or not and that if it was deemed intentional it was a flagrant 2. Maybe I'm mistaken?
Ehh, not sure I agree. There were five seconds left on the shot clock and I don’t think Ross really commits to it at a subtle move. It took either a really good hesi or a straight up double dribble for Ross to commit. And there is a rim protector behind. It’s not a ridiculous gamble at all given the circumstances. It happens.
