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superjohn said:
I honestly thought that offensive rebound and put back by Jaylin was Tarris right when it happened. That was an incredible rebound, it looked like he had a bear mitt the way he swallowed it up.
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Yep, and Jaylin needs to get more minutes especially if karaban is not giving us much on offense. Though I will say Karaban always plays great D this year and Stewart sometimes goes airhead. Either way Stewart deserves more minutes. He is too athletic to keep out off the court on a team with not many good ones out there.
 
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RuffRuff said:
It really should be. It’s like I get Danny, Samson is a company man and you want to pay him back. We are a tougher team with Reed on the floor, and toughness is what this team desperately needs. He is a physical mismatch in the large majority of matchups - use it.

I don’t care what the Net or the efficiency says, it’s more important our lineup has a source strength out there. He does things Samson can’t do, and teams have to plan for him if you use him. He’ll also soften the perimeter. I just can’t do 5s that have a hard time catching a ball and are allergic to rebounds, no matter if they know the system better.

Tarris was energy all over the floor in the second half, and it fed the rest of the team. By the end they were looking for him effectively, finally. He always plays better the longer he’s out there.
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In a recent presser Danny said Samson is one of his favorite all time players. Not sure much will change and Dan Hurley doesn’t really have a history or shuffling the lineup
 
Kemba15 said:
I’m a big Reed guy and have been advocating for more of him but don’t the advanced metrics say most of our best lineups are with Johnson? @auror maybe you can weigh in?

I just wonder if the staff sees something we don’t because Reed is that dude!
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Who cares - we’re tougher with Tarris. We feel like a pile of snowflakes with Samson out there.

We have way higher team upside makeup with a beast in the middle, not a finesse 5 with a bunch of jump shooters.

I’d be curious to Tarris’ numbers the further he plays in games as it always seems he hits his stride deeper into his minutes.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Who cares - we’re tougher with Tarris. We feel like a pile of snowflakes with Samson out there.

We have way higher team upside makeup with a beast in the middle, not a finesse 5 with a bunch of jump shooters.

I’d be curious to Tarris’ numbers the further he plays in games as it always seems he hits his stride deeper into his minutes.
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I was just asking but yes I agree. It’s Reed Time
 
The Reed/Samson thing is about match ups. There is a reason Reed disappears in some games. Same for Samson. Tonight Reed played bully ball. But no one had a great game. Even McNeeley had a tough first half.

We held Nova to 59 points. Good thing too.
 
Spaceman213J said:
This team needs to play with that sense of urgency for 40 minutes.
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This is very true. Only Solo/Samson/Diarra seemed to care for the first 30 minutes, even if they weren’t having great games. Once everybody started to show energy and passion, the game shifted

Previous teams treated every possession like life or death. This team can do special things if they do it too
 
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They were dead in the water down 14 with 10 left. Being outhustled and outshot.

Then someone flipped a switch, strategy changed to working McNeeley on drives and Reed in the post … and whaddaya know, defense was played!

Suddenly a win appeared and they looked like the team we all thought they could be. Hurley needs to show them the last 10 minutes on a loop until each player knows that’s the intensity and style that will be successful.

Fewer fouls, fewer turnovers, and great free throw shooting today. Stll need to fix a few things. The big one was the terrible 3 point shooting. What was once a strength has been a weakness recently. 4/19 today. Also, gotta get Solo to finish through contact at the rim.

We’ll take it and move on. Just win, baby.
 
Palatine said:
The Reed/Samson thing is about match ups. There is a reason Reed disappears in some games. Same for Samson. Tonight Reed played bully ball.
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so if thats what Reed can do against Nova's big bodies, how would he have done versus Seton hall on the low block posting up I wonder. lol, Nice spirited comeback tonight. Raff mentioning McNeeley channeling Cam
 
3rdbass said:
Yep, and Jaylin needs to get more minutes especially if karaban is not giving us much on offense. Though I will say Karaban always plays great D this year and Stewart sometimes goes airhead. Either way Stewart deserves more minutes. He is too athletic to keep out off the court on a team with not many good ones out there.
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Jaylin has a lot of talent, that's why it's so frustrating when we go long periods of time without really noticing him out there. I desperately hope they can get all that talent out of him.

I was watching the St. John's game with a couple people who don't watch a ton of basketball/UConn and one of them said "Who is that guy? He looks like an NBA player out there," and the other guy agreed. Only Liam, Jaylin, and Tarris really have that look on this team. Samson is a pogo stick but you realize pretty quickly how flawed he is as a player.
 
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RuffRuff said:
It really should be. It’s like I get Danny, Samson is a company man and you want to pay him back. We are a tougher team with Reed on the floor, and toughness is what this team desperately needs. He is a physical mismatch in the large majority of matchups - use it.

I don’t care what the Net or the efficiency says, it’s more important our lineup has a source strength out there. He does things Samson can’t do, and teams have to plan for him if you use him. He’ll also soften the perimeter. I just can’t do 5s that have a hard time catching a ball and are allergic to rebounds, no matter if they know the system better.

Tarris was energy all over the floor in the second half, and it fed the rest of the team. By the end they were looking for him effectively, finally. He always plays better the longer he’s out there.
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Well put, hope it was noticed by the right people.
 
RuffRuff said:
Who cares - we’re tougher with Tarris. We feel like a pile of snowflakes with Samson out there.

We have way higher team upside makeup with a beast in the middle, not a finesse 5 with a bunch of jump shooters.

I’d be curious to Tarris’ numbers the further he plays in games as it always seems he hits his stride deeper into his minutes.
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He's clearly a 14 and 10 guy with a couple of blocks if he got 27 minutes per game and the coach designed some things to get him the ball on the block.
 
superjohn said:
Yep but the really insane thing is Hurley never starting him and going away from him. He's so obviously our best big to anyone who watches and he provides all the things the rest of the team is so bad at. Being big, getting buckets down low, and rebounding on both ends of the court. Danny is stubborn but this has been next level stubbornness from him.
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Please. As great as Tarris was tonight, he is not a prototypical 5. To say Hurley got this wrong all season is idiotic. Does nova even have a player a legit 6’9? Tarris was awesome tonight but part of it was because it was a great matchup. Tarris has and will get two fouls almost instantly on guys taller than him.
Personally I can’t wait for next year. I think he and riebe complement each other perfectly.
 
superjohn said:
He's clearly a 14 and 10 guy with a couple of blocks if he got 27 minutes per game and the coach designed some things to get him the ball on the block.
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And we know we have things. I mean, yeah, he's not an exact Sanogo clone, but he has the same physical presence - and basically all the same plays could be run for him. Adama would have a few more finishing tricks after getting the ball, but Reed might be a little tougher on the immediate catch and finish (today's block from behind notwithstanding). Adama would sometimes be too deliberate.
 
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superjohn said:
I honestly thought that offensive rebound and put back by Jaylin was Tarris right when it happened. That was an incredible rebound, it looked like he had a bear mitt the way he swallowed it up.
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Agreed, that was a GROWN MAN’S Rebound
 
djct1999 said:
Please. As great as Tarris was tonight, he is not a prototypical 5. To say Hurley got this wrong all season is idiotic. Does nova even have a player a legit 6’9. Tarris was awesome tonight but part of it was because it was a great matchup. Tarris has and will get two fouls almost instantly on guys taller than him.
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There's only so many teams that can match up with Tarris from a quality size perspective. Most teams don't have the player you're talking about.
 
Reed is so important because we don’t have a lot of offense. If he was a reliable source, the other guys would have a much easier time scoring too. Play some inside out, soften people up.
 
13 fouls to their 16, 16 FT points to their 13. That, along with moving into the paint toward the end put the game out of reach
 
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