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Villanova Fires Kyle Neptune

CL82 said:
Agree. I think the original poster was actually suggesting that an existing mid major might get the Villanova job which ultimately might result in an opening for either Luke or Kimani.
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that does make sense. This is the time for assistants under Hurley to get job looks.
 
Scoe said:
You know what really grinds PC fans gears, UConn beating them on the ice.
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They're a joke in everything else. Why should hockey be any different?
 
metsfan2323 said:
In that case thank God for our time in the AAC. The thought of Ollie still being our coach and Hurley at Pitt is a nightmare.

BTW, apparently nobody in a hiring position in college basketball shares your opinion. Truth is a good coach at UConn should have dominated the AAC, instead Ollie brought us to the bottom of that conference.
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Ollie had a “show cause” penalty against him, effectively banning him from coaching in college through 2021, or effectively 2022. The show cause was based on infractions so minor, and that were reported by UConn, that when UConn tried to litigate them, UConn received one of the worst legal beat downs in employment history.

Ollie was coaching in the NBA last year, so it appears that people that matter do not share your opinion.

If the AAC is such a great conference, how many bids is it getting this year? Memphis is the only team within a time zone of an at large.
 
auror said:
From my understanding of mixed Trilly tea, Kimani is angling hard for VCU. It's unclear if they have interest in him, but Odom is either going Nova or UVA, so the job will be open either way.
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Kimani seems to be in the VCU top 3. Trilly says clear list of "Mike Morrell, Rob Jones, Kimani Young"

Another main option for Kimani/Luke is UNCW if USF hires Takayo Siddle. It's unclear if the salary range will be high enough, but it's a good launching job in a nice area (near where Luke's Dad lives), and the AD is the former deputy AD at UConn. It might be the right job that would make them consider lowering their salary if they really wanted to be a HC.
 
I know this is off topic (KO and Kimani), but this is a big hire for Villanova. Getting them back to the upper echelon of the Big East would be a big deal. UConn, Marquette, Creighton, St. John's (if they follow up Pitino correctly), and then Villanova could be a formidable group of Top 25 programs in one league.

It also helps with the possibility of a future merger should UConn miss out on the early 2030's conference realignment on their own.

If form holds true, UConn will be exiting the Big East right as Villanova is ready to become the class of a UConn-less Big East (which works for me).
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Ollie had a “show cause” penalty against him, effectively banning him from coaching in college through 2021, or effectively 2022. The show cause was based on infractions so minor, and that were reported by UConn, that when UConn tried to litigate them, UConn received one of the worst legal beat downs in employment history.

Ollie was coaching in the NBA last year, so it appears that people that matter do not share your opinion.

If the AAC is such a great conference, how many bids is it getting this year? Memphis is the only team within a time zone of an at large.
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We are in agreement here. Ollie was fired because he was a lousy coach, the other stuff was just noise, I also agree that the AAC stinks, which is why a good coach at UConn should have dominated it the same way Gonzaga dominates their lousy conference.
 
Would be interesting if Bobby Hurley came back to Uconn as an assistant if Kimani or Luke leave. . One year left on his ASU contract and they made it public they are not extending him.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Your posts on this topic have gotten more ridiculous over time.

UConn was in a hellhole of a conference. If UConn had joined the Big East when it split, Ollie would have kept UConn very competitive
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There is a little bit to this.
Ollie had the challenge of coaching in AAC and a fan base teetering on apathy. But ultimately, what did Ollie in was performance on the court and his teams were not competitive despite decent recruiting. The program was clearly headed in the wrong direction and the school decided he wasn’t the person to course correct.
 
I don't enjoy anyone getting fired but Kyle Neptune will go down as an all-time bad hire by Nova
 
There’s no chance Eric Dixon gets a 7th season, right?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Ollie had a “show cause” penalty against him, effectively banning him from coaching in college through 2021, or effectively 2022. The show cause was based on infractions so minor, and that were reported by UConn, that when UConn tried to litigate them, UConn received one of the worst legal beat downs in employment history.

Ollie was coaching in the NBA last year, so it appears that people that matter do not share your opinion.

If the AAC is such a great conference, how many bids is it getting this year? Memphis is the only team within a time zone of an at large.
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Ollie would have fared even worse in the Big East. He checked out and wasn't coaching. The AAC had nothing to do with his undoing.
 
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3rdbass said:
Yeah there is a reason why Blaney wasn't there after that year as Ollie's head got a little too big and thought he was the hot shot and didn't need any help. Look were KO is now as far as coaching. LOL! I give him some credit for motivating the team but he surely has world implode around him after he thought he was too good even for advice from Calhoun.
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Right like I had already stated he fell off after 2014, I'm pretty sure Blaney planned on retiring after 2013 if I can recall.
 
You could kind of sense something in the last minute when Neptune and Hurley were talking, something along the lines of I'm out of here.
 
Scoe said:
You could kind of sense something in the last minute when Neptune and Hurley were talking, something along the lines of I'm out of here.
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Neptune has a lot of talent on those teams to not do better. I will say like us PG has been a weak spot for them including this year.
 
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navery12 said:


If the rumors end up being true here then there's potential downstream impact to UConn here
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Scoe said:
I'm not making a case the facts show that Ollie was the right hire, turned a 2 year plan into a national championship, him falling off after that is on him. He was the right hire but didn't turn into THE GUY.
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Olliie wasn’t even the hire he had a six month interim contract .
In Ollie 4th year we won 26 games and the AAC championship
Got a terrible break in the tournament as a 9
Beat an 8 and lost to the overall 1 seed . B
The Next year was a huge disappointment because expectations were high but as bad as that year was we finished 9-9 in the AAC and won 2 games in the AAC tournament losing in the semis with a makeshift lineup .
Comparing Ollie ‘s record to Neptune’s. Is really beyond ridiculous.
His last year we not only lost a bunch to graduation but team desertions , decommits , ineligibility, and injuries totally depleted the roster.
 
Scoe said:
Calhoun wasn't perfect but he earned that right and set up Ollie with a staff, Blaney stayed on in the tourney ban year. It's easy to be a genius in hindsight. Would you have trusted Jeff Hathaway to hire the next coach?
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I was reading this and ready to disagree with it but that last sentence hit home and was like you’re absolutely right. The name Hathaway sends shivers down my spine. The depth of his incompetence was mind boggling. You wanna see a bad head coaching hire Hathaway would say hold my beer…..
 
Umami Zen said:
Unrelated to Nova/Neptune but related to prospective coaches that could be on the move. Drake Coach Ben McC is being mentioned as a potential candidate in the Indiana job.
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Rumors suggest Iowa may also be targeting Ben McCollum. Would be a massive catch bringing McCollum back to his birthplace. IU NIL vs U of I?
 
Phoenixhusky said:
Would be interesting if Bobby Hurley came back to Uconn as an assistant if Kimani or Luke leave. . One year left on his ASU contract and they made it public they are not extending him.
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Unlikely, particularly based on media reports suggesting ASU’s allowing Danny Hurley’s brother to return for another year in Tempe.
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
Comparing Ollie ‘s record to Neptune’s. Is really beyond ridiculous.
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Going by torvik rankings, Neptune's worst year was his first season, where Villanova was 61st.
Ollie had 3 seasons worse than that, 2015 (85th), 2017 (90th), and 2018 (185th), so I don't see why it's that ridiculous. I guess your point is that AAC records look deceptively okay?

If anything, Neptune is a bit unlucky that his merely "meh" seasons have felt so god awful. If he had had about the same torvik ranking but without the atrocious losses, maybe he'd be around still.
 
auror said:
From my understanding of mixed Trilly tea, Kimani is angling hard for VCU. It's unclear if they have interest in him, but Odom is either going Nova or UVA, so the job will be open either way.
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That’s a great job for Kimani. Would love to see him there!
 
husky429 said:
Calhoun is responsible for essentially forcing the university to hire a wholly unqualified person who had 0 head coaching experience, resulting in a near death knell for the program. Yes.

It took a coach as transcendent as Hurley, what, 3 or 4 years to get us back in the top-25? That's how badly KO screwed this program top to bottom.
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Yeah and half this board has 2 of our assistants going to head coach first time in major conferences.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Rumors suggest Iowa may also be targeting Ben McCollum. Would be a massive catch bringing McCollum back to his birthplace. IU NIL vs U of I?
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I believe Indiana’s budget is only surpassed by Kansas. Now, neither have done a great job with it.
 
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