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Jumpman62114 said:
Our guard play has been exposed, and our lack of decision making and dumb turnovers in crunch time has added up to a season’s worth already. West Virginia and st johns are prob licking their chops right now.
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They may be, but, the kids will be home. Ready to play. They will be excited about conference play.
 
As good as Adama has looked, he has some glaring warts as well, Specifically, he leaves a TON to be desired as a passer. Additionally, he never made himself available on a few of those TO’s where Cole got trapped. Would have been an excellent pass
 
Kitaman said:
Seems like we're still a bunch of moving parts.

Just saying, the team does not look they are in synch. Sure its early but to me, that will be Hurley's biggest task (i.e. creating a kick ass machine).
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That is why I don't pay attention to the cupcakes. While many were excited, I just laid back. I knew Atlantis was going to be the true test. Even Sonogo looked lost after the Auburn game.
 
Dabutlerdidit said:
This trip, going 2-1, with the painful loss to MSU, was a small price to pay for the invaluable lessons that Hurley needs to teach and capitalize on game film. It’s only a crime if we don’t learn from our mistakes
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Also this group now knows what the season will bring. This trip they played against the big boys. No more cupcakes. Well until next week.
 
JMick said:
they played like they were allergic to winning all week.

This tournament can definitely be a positive overall for the team. I'm not saying the sky is falling. But I definitely don't have the same kind of hope for the season that I had 3 days ago
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Well I see your point. This was the true test. It will be a positive. They have a bit of a rest before the next game, which I think is a cupcake.
 
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I simply think many of you don't know what you are watching. I don't really care about the kenpom Defense metrics - but NO ONE should be surprised to see a Tom Izzo team and VCU at the top of that kind of scale. Memphis wouldn't ever scare me. When you have Bruce Pearl with Auburn; then Izzo with Michigan State; and the VCU manic ... those are 3 of the toughest identities in the college game. Are you gonna tell me that Big East teams are nearly that defensive/physical/distinct? There aren't many Programs that come at you like those 3. Upstater - sorry, you simply have no credible take on VCU. They have 9 guys 6-3 to 6-9 and play like dogs. They are gonna be tough in the A10 - as they always are. I have no insight to their losses to Chattanooga or Wagner; but they are darn good.

Sanogo has next level play; but having him pass inside out is his next skillset - no doubt. He had 3 assists ... maybe we saw the start. You can't have guys like Seth Greenberg saying the kid never passes. He can. I agree on Gaffney; he's useful ... but he doesn't manage the team in end game situations well enough for wins. Yesterday, one of you guys were knocking Cole = WTF. He is exactly who we need. Jackson made a lot of winning plays: his toughness inside grabbing D rebounds to his adroit long passes. I dunno if we will see his diversity in scoring; but he needs to be on the floor.

When you say you wouldn't take any of the other teams 5 guys or bench on our lineup ... which I would I would say on both Michigan State and VCU, you are getting to this point: it is the style and identity of the Spartans/Rams that eat us up. Intense. They both gave us hard games. We need to be up 4-7 points with 4 minutes to go and extend it to 10. And we cannot do that ... yet.
 
MDHuskFan said:
As good as Adama has looked, he has some glaring warts as well, Specifically, he leaves a TON to be desired as a passer. Additionally, he never made himself available on a few of those TO’s where Cole got trapped. Would have been an excellent pass
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Sonogo looked lost after the Auburn game. Also, what the heck is doing at the top of the key and running back to the hoop chasing a driver. I thought the was the UConn of old. Don't remember seeing that before the tournament.
 
AntG168 said:
We probably will be very close to top 15 on Monday. We’re moving up in the rankings. But agreed we have a lot to work on. They’re easy things to fix though
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My opinion only. We lose today we are #25 or off. Yes Auburn was #17? Bu two loses to unranked teams would not look good.
 
Huskybass said:
I really think we need a second ballhandler to help Cole.
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I remember a little difference of opinion last week over whether or not Hawkins had enough handle for that role. Think that question is settled for a bit.
 
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8893 said:
If it hasn’t been said anywhere, huge props to the whole @RJScootin family again for their energy at the game today.

My daughter and I were among the few in the midcourt UConn fan section who stood for the whole game. He and his boy tried to urge people on the whole game, definitely dodging security much of the time. These guys left it all on the court there.
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Thank you!!! Nothing but love. You did the same!!!! We bleed blue
 
Pudge said:
I simply think many of you don't know what you are watching. I don't really care about the kenpom Defense metrics - but NO ONE should be surprised to see a Tom Izzo team and VCU at the top of that kind of scale. Memphis wouldn't ever scare me. When you have Bruce Pearl with Auburn; then Izzo with Michigan State; and the VCU manic ... those are 3 of the toughest identities in the college game. Are you gonna tell me that Big East teams are nearly that defensive/physical/distinct? There aren't many Programs that come at you like those 3. Upstater - sorry, you simply have no credible take on VCU. They have 9 guys 6-3 to 6-9 and play like dogs. They are gonna be tough in the A10 - as they always are. I have no insight to their losses to Chattanooga or Wagner; but they are darn good.

Sanogo has next level play; but having him pass inside out is his next skillset - no doubt. He had 3 assists ... maybe we saw the start. You can't have guys like Seth Greenberg saying the kid never passes. He can. I agree on Gaffney; he's useful ... but he doesn't manage the team in end game situations well enough for wins. Yesterday, one of you guys were knocking Cole = . He is exactly who we need. Jackson made a lot of winning plays: his toughness inside grabbing D rebounds to his adroit long passes. I dunno if we will see his diversity in scoring; but he needs to be on the floor.

When you say you wouldn't take any of the other teams 5 guys or bench on our lineup ... which I would I would say on both Michigan State and VCU, you are getting to this point: it is the style and identity of the Spartans/Rams that eat us up. Intense. They both gave us hard games. We need to be up 4-7 points with 4 minutes to go and extend it to 10. And we cannot do that ... yet.
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I think betting in this forum is ridiculous but I'll take any bet that VCU will not be good. I mean, if you can't put the ball into the basket, you may just lose to Wagner by double digits.

40 points against Wagner!!!!

Let that sink in.
 
Didn’t watch it, heard It’s an ugly win.

that,s March. Just win baby
 
upstater said:
I think betting in this forum is ridiculous but I'll take any bet that VCU will not be good. I mean, if you can't put the ball into the basket, you may just lose to Wagner by double digits.

40 points against Wagner!!!!

Let that sink in.
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I guess it depends how you define good. I don't think they're making the tournamament, but I'd be shocked if they're not a good win at the end of the year. Quad 1 win would mean they're 1-50 and Quad 2 win would be 51-100, given their conference I feel like that's the floor for them which is a good win
 
upstater said:
I think betting in this forum is ridiculous but I'll take any bet that VCU will not be good. I mean, if you can't put the ball into the basket, you may just lose to Wagner by double digits.

40 points against Wagner!!!!

Let that sink in.
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Did you notice we couldn't put the ball in the basket?
 
If your Hurley, you throw today’s tape in the garbage before viewing it. The kids were obviously fatigued, physically and mentally. That said, they still found a way to win an ugly game vs a very good defensive team. That builds character and resolve. This three day trip will go along way in establishing a foundation for the entire season. The trip was a success for that reason alone.
 
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It's not the refs. They don't shoot bricks, they don't inbounds into the "coffin corner", they don't fail to hit the open man, they don't give baseline, they don't dribble into a crowd, and they don't commit dumb turnovers.

Blaming the refs is a timeworn excuse for failure.
 
upstater said:
I think betting in this forum is ridiculous but I'll take any bet that VCU will not be good. I mean, if you can't put the ball into the basket, you may just lose to Wagner by double digits.

40 points against Wagner!!!!

Let that sink in.
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Is Kansas any good or should we define them by today’s loss? Sometimes in college basketball you get weird results especially early on in the year. To micro analyze today’s game, our 3rd in 48 hours is perhaps the craziest thing.
 
superjohn said:
Cole and Whaley saved us. Hurley has so much to work on. Too many things to list. Hurley needs to give the freshmen minutes going forward. They're not deep right now and they're really not deep in the backcourt. Too much burden is being placed on Cole, it simply can't continue like this. Diggins needs minutes.

Ugly as hell but still went 2-1. Never want UConn in this event again, never want to see the Bahamas again, and most of all never want to see these refs again. When refs are that inept I start to question if they're dirty.
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We were out doing Thanksgiving Day II which was like Ground Hog Day. I just finished watching a recording of this game 5 minutes ago not knowing who won. I exhausted my quota a sweat words for the season. I rolled the video back and re-watched 8\10 calls by these sorry excuses of refs. Refs need to go to Ref Reform school. Sanogo needs to be coucounceled eled on passing the ball out of traffic instead of trying to play charging bull. Gaffney is not consistent.
I change my mind this team does need work on dept. I was wrong in my prior assessment.
These three games had enough dumb plays to last until March.
 
djct1999 said:
Is Kansas any good or should we define them by today’s loss? Sometimes in college basketball you get weird results especially early on in the year. To micro analyze today’s game, our 3rd in 48 hours is perhaps the craziest thing.
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Dayton is not Wagner nor was Kansas limited to 40 points.

They also lost to Chattanooga. Better than losing to Wagner but...

In VCU I saw a team that absolutely could not shoot. There were ways to exploit them.

This doesn't mean UConn is doomed. I don't believe that at all. I was only responding to those saying we ran into a bad matchup today.

I agree with Hurley. They played bad. But won.
 
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Kitaman said:
Seems like we're still a bunch of moving parts.

Just saying, the team does not look they are in synch. Sure its early but to me, that will be Hurley's biggest task (i.e. creating a kick ass machine).
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It's got to be hard to be in synch when you don't know day to day who isn't going to show up. Sanogo? AJ? Polley? Gaffney? How do you game play not knowing whether Polley will go for 24 or 3? Not knowing if SAnogo will go for 30 or 6? Not knowing if Akok will ever look like he was as a frosh. I won't talk about Martin because he was clearly playing one handed the last 20 minutes.

The good news is we won 2 out of 3 despite players being banged up, beat up, and having to play 135 minutes of competitive hoops in 48 hours. The good news is we can defend and rebound. But we need more team offense, and we need two players who can be hitting outside shots on any given day.

Said another way, of course, this team so far is who we thought they would be coming into the season. The potential is there for more. Some need to be better, and almost all need to be more consistent.
 
superjohn said:
Didn't see anyone mention it, Andre Jackson had 14 rebounds today. Every shot is in and out for him and he's too sloppy with some of his passes but he does a lot of things out there. He's a beast on the glass.
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He reminds me of my buddy’s Chesapeake Bay Retriever, in all ways good and bad.
 
MDHuskFan said:
As good as Adama has looked, he has some glaring warts as well, Specifically, he leaves a TON to be desired as a passer. Additionally, he never made himself available on a few of those TO’s where Cole got trapped. Would have been an excellent pass
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Adama is also not a very good rebounder and rarely boxes out.
 
djct1999 said:
Is Kansas any good or should we define them by today’s loss? Sometimes in college basketball you get weird results especially early on in the year. To micro analyze today’s game, our 3rd in 48 hours is perhaps the craziest thing.
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People here complain about Hurleys game coaching. Bill Self is worse
 
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