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What a tremendous job Shea Ralph has done at Vanderbilt. She has built herself a solid program and they are improving every year. She's got some really potent weapons this year and a phenomenal, talent in Blakes.
I'm rewatching her post-game presser vs SC. Night and day vs. TN's Caldwell in how she talked about her team and staff after that embarrassing loss, how that was a learning experience for all of them, and how their goals for this season are still achievable. Classy coach. Happy for Shea and her program.
 
I think so. Her offensive statistics are just better. And she has the SEC pushing her.

Edit: I just want to warn you guys. Don’t be surprised if UConn is not the number one overall seed when the bracket reveal comes out this weekend.
Surprised? I think shocked would be a better word. Surely you jest...
 
A little over 5000 attendance in an arena that has 14K + capacity. A game of this magnitude would be a sellout in CT, Columbia SC and Iowa City, among a few others.
I was astonished to see the attendance (or lack thereof). This should be an embarrassment to the school. Their sports teams have been an embarrassment to the Athletics world for some time and they seem to all get together at the same time but no one showing up.

I've been critical of the LA teams which don't seem to support decent teams but I never would have guessed that Vanderbilt would be almost as bad.
 
Didn’t get to watch. Why did Justice Carleton only get 7 minutes? Harmon only 18?

Injuries?
Harmon wasn't up to the task. Texas chipped into the lead mainly at the beginning of the fourth quarter when they scored the first eight points. That occurred with Harmon on the bench which may be a little bit of a coincidence but it doesn't help her resume. I hadn't noticed the Carlton didn't get much playing time until I checked the box score. She's been effective in prior games so I don't know whether she just had an off day, was under the weather or something else.
 
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Only a few days ago, there was quite a bit of speculation about what impact Caldwell’s comments would have on the Lady Vols. The team seems to have responded pretty well against Missouri (though granted they are a team reeling from injuries).

I think it will be interesting to see how Texas responds to Vic’s remarks after the Vandy loss.
 
I think so. Her offensive statistics are just better. And she has the SEC pushing her.

Edit: I just want to warn you guys. Don’t be surprised if UConn is not the number one overall seed when the bracket reveal comes out this weekend.
I love Mikayla Blakes, but the idea that her offensive numbers are simply better than Sarah Strong’s depends on what you value. Blakes definitely scores more points per game and carries a bigger offensive load for her team. But when you look beyond raw scoring, Strong is much more efficient. She scores more points per shot, shoots a significantly higher percentage overall, and turns the ball over far less often. That means Strong gets more out of each possession and wastes fewer opportunities. She also creates for teammates while keeping her assist-to-turnover numbers strong. Blakes is an elite, high-volume scorer, but the evidence shows that Strong produces offense more efficiently and cleanly. So while Blakes has bigger scoring totals, it’s not accurate to say her overall offensive statistics are just better.

(To put it in a more wonky way: The claim that Mikayla Blakes’s offensive statistics are simply better than Sarah Strong’s does not hold up when you examine advanced efficiency data alongside volume scoring. While Blakes averages more points and carries a significantly higher usage rate (34.7% compared to Strong’s 27.0%), Strong is far more efficient with her opportunities. Strong posts a 134.8 offensive rating, 1.22 points per possession, and an elite 66.1% effective field goal percentage, compared to Blakes’s 122.1 offensive rating, 1.03 points per possession, and 52.5% eFG. In other words, Strong generates more points per scoring attempt (1.39 vs. 1.16) despite taking fewer shots. She also protects the ball better, with a 12.2% turnover rate compared to Blakes’s 27.1%, and maintains a stronger assist-to-turnover ratio (2.31 vs. 1.61), showing superior offensive decision-making. Although Blakes is the higher-volume scorer and draws more free throws, the efficiency gap across multiple advanced metrics demonstrates that Strong produces offense more effectively and with less wasted possession. Therefore, while Blakes may have bigger raw scoring totals, the evidence suggests Strong’s overall offensive performance is statistically stronger.)
 
Only a few days ago, there was quite a bit of speculation about what impact Caldwell’s comments would have on the Lady Vols. The team seems to have responded pretty well against Missouri (though granted they are a team reeling from injuries).

I think it will be interesting to see how Texas responds to Vic’s remarks after the Vandy loss.
It was a broken Missouri team. No post player.
 
I've been critical of the LA teams which don't seem to support decent teams but I never would have guessed that Vanderbilt would be almost as bad.
Vandy doesn't have many local fans. They are a private school that has prioritized out of state admissions for a half-century with a sadsack athletic program. They've never tried to claim Nashville, and all of the transplants brought other loyalties with them. Other sports fandoms too.

In football, SEC teams treat it as a fun weekend roadtrip to enjoy the sights and take over the stadium on gameday.
 
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I think undefeated UConn could be the #3 overall seed if South Carolina and UCLA win out
I think undefeated UConn could be the #3 overall seed if South Carolina and UCLA win out
I think undefeated UConn could be the #3 overall seed if South Carolina and UCLA win out.
I'd love to hear the rational for that statement
 
A little over 5000 attendance in an arena that has 14K + capacity. A game of this magnitude would be a sellout in CT, Columbia SC and Iowa City, among a few others.

Private School vs 3 State Public Flagships. A campus in the heart of a booming city vs 3 schools in relative backwater. Lots of options for the entertainment dollar for the people in Nashville compared to the three places you listed. Plus the three you mentioned have long established fan bases compared to the upstarts in Nashville. 5,000 for a 630 tipoff on a Thursday night, in traffic snarled Nashville? That's very respectable in my book.
 
You asked for this Cornell. I am not scared to debate this topic. I already have admitted sympathy for Geno for this year’s schedule. I know UConn got really unlucky with their schedule this year.

Best wins:

UCLA:
@ Michigan State
@ Michigan
Iowa
Maryland
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio State
N Tennessee
N Duke
N North Carolina
N Oklahoma

UConn:
Tennessee
N Iowa
N Ohio State
N Louisville
N Michigan

Three of UConn’s best wins are against big 10 teams that UCLA has also beaten. UCLA also has much better road wins than UConn. UConn really doesn’t have a marquee road win. I think USC is probably the best true road win.

Imagine if UCLA adds additional wins over Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois via the big 10 tournament.

The smart thing to do is to just get it over with and put UCLA number one now. Waiting a reveal or two will only be more controversial.
 
You asked for this Cornell. I am not scared to debate this topic. I already have admitted sympathy for Geno for this year’s schedule. I know UConn got really unlucky with their schedule this year.

Best wins:

UCLA:
@ Michigan State
@ Michigan
Iowa
Maryland
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio State
N Tennessee
N Duke
N North Carolina
N Oklahoma

UConn:
Tennessee
N Iowa
N Ohio State
N Louisville
N Michigan

Three of UConn’s best wins are against big 10 teams that UCLA has also beaten. UCLA also has much better road wins than UConn. UConn really doesn’t have a marquee road win. I think USC is probably the best true road win.

Imagine if UCLA adds additional wins over Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois via the big 10 tournament.

The smart thing to do is to just get it over with and put UCLA number one now. Waiting a reveal or two will only be more controversial.
Does MOV matter at all in these? I don’t believe it does, UCONN beat almost all of these teams by 25+ where a lot of the UCLA games were more competitive.
 
You asked for this Cornell. I am not scared to debate this topic. I already have admitted sympathy for Geno for this year’s schedule. I know UConn got really unlucky with their schedule this year.

Best wins:

UCLA:
@ Michigan State
@ Michigan
Iowa
Maryland
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio State
N Tennessee
N Duke
N North Carolina
N Oklahoma

UConn:
Tennessee
N Iowa
N Ohio State
N Louisville
N Michigan

Three of UConn’s best wins are against big 10 teams that UCLA has also beaten. UCLA also has much better road wins than UConn. UConn really doesn’t have a marquee road win. I think USC is probably the best true road win.

Imagine if UCLA adds additional wins over Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois via the big 10 tournament.

The smart thing to do is to just get it over with and put UCLA number one now. Waiting a reveal or two will only be more controversial.
As if teams want to hand UCONN any more motivation.
 
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Does MOV matter at all in these? I don’t believe it does, UCONN beat almost all of these teams by 25+ where a lot of the UCLA games were more competitive.
I think MOV is part of the NET if I am not mistaken. And that is supposed to be a metric the committee uses.

It didn’t help UConn get a number one seed last season though.
 
perhaps the loss of pierre was addition-by-subtraction (chemistry-wise)
Interesting thought but I really think the addition of unrated spark plug Aubrey Galvan and the swagger she brings each night to be "Robin" to Blakes "Batman" is the key factor here. Blakes is pretty much unstoppable against most teams. Add in the fact Texas is still an offensively challenged team who can't shoot 3's and you can see why Vandy is a distant second to SC. Match ups matter and for the most part Vandy matches up well with everyone except SC in the SEC.
 
As if teams want to hand UCONN any more motivation.
I think you mean the selection committee. The other teams who make the tournament have nothing to do with who gets the overall number one seed.
 
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A couple things caught my eye watching the replay today. Mwenentanda had a solid game against her former team. Played most of the game too along with Blakes and Galvan. While Del Rosario didn't impact the score board, she did a decent job disrupting Cunningham and Oldacre in the paint. She doesn't play much but she did enough to help the team yesterday.
 
Blakes is going to beat out SS when Uconn is undefeated?..not happening!!
Agreed. Sarah strong does not play the fourth quarter in virtually all of the big east games and yet She probably leads in all major player win metrics. Blake’s is good but no one and I mean no one is a three level scorer, defender and rebounder as Sarah strong. Prove me wrong guys
 
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You asked for this Cornell. I am not scared to debate this topic. I already have admitted sympathy for Geno for this year’s schedule. I know UConn got really unlucky with their schedule this year.

Best wins:

UCLA:
@ Michigan State
@ Michigan
Iowa
Maryland
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio State
N Tennessee
N Duke
N North Carolina
N Oklahoma

UConn:
Tennessee
N Iowa
N Ohio State
N Louisville
N Michigan

Three of UConn’s best wins are against big 10 teams that UCLA has also beaten. UCLA also has much better road wins than UConn. UConn really doesn’t have a marquee road win. I think USC is probably the best true road win.

Imagine if UCLA adds additional wins over Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois via the big 10 tournament.

The smart thing to do is to just get it over with and put UCLA number one now. Waiting a reveal or two will only be more controversial.
Stagnant you make valid points. But the eye test is important as well. I also believe and I am very very biased on this but let’s say all the major contenders (say top 12 teams, you decide) are told they are in the elite 8 and they had to choose between the choices of UCLA, Texas, SC, LSU, Vanderbilt, Louisville on an opponent to play to get to final four, I would find it hard pressed anyone of the top teams would put UCOnN as a team they would want to face. Everyone knows UConn when healthy is another kind of animal in the big dance.
 
If there is anything we’ve learned from past tournament selections it’s that the committee always gives itself wiggle room, whatever the metrics say. If UConn remains undefeated, the Huskies will be the #1 overall seed, mark my word.

Nobody on the committee is going to remotely want to explain why the only undefeated team in the nation, #1 ranked, prior year’s national champion, who absolutely destroyed UCLA & SC (twice) is anything but the #1 seed this year.
 
Agreed. Sarah strong does not play the fourth quarter in virtually all of the big east games and yet She probably leads in all major player win metrics. Blake’s is good but no one and I mean no one is a three level scorer, defender and rebounder as Sarah strong. Prove me wrong guys
I’ll point out that Blakes didn’t play long minutes the first half of the year going up against weaker competition. Her stats are notably better when she’s facing much better competition. She’s also leading a team that was preseason #19 to a #4 ranking and potential #1 seed in the tournament.
 
I’ll point out that Blakes didn’t play long minutes the first half of the year going up against weaker competition. Her stats are notably better when she’s facing much better competition. She’s also leading a team that was preseason #19 to a #4 ranking and potential #1 seed in the tournament.
For the record, YTD Sarah averages 27.1 mpg while Blakes averages 34.1 mpg, basically 25% more. Even against ranked OOC teams Sarah didn’t play all that many minutes because UConn typically had the game in hand by the 4th qtr.
 
You asked for this Cornell. I am not scared to debate this topic. I already have admitted sympathy for Geno for this year’s schedule. I know UConn got really unlucky with their schedule this year.

Best wins:

UCLA:
@ Michigan State
@ Michigan
Iowa
Maryland
@ Minnesota
@ Ohio State
N Tennessee
N Duke
N North Carolina
N Oklahoma

UConn:
Tennessee
N Iowa
N Ohio State
N Louisville
N Michigan

Three of UConn’s best wins are against big 10 teams that UCLA has also beaten. UCLA also has much better road wins than UConn. UConn really doesn’t have a marquee road win. I think USC is probably the best true road win.

Imagine if UCLA adds additional wins over Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois via the big 10 tournament.

The smart thing to do is to just get it over with and put UCLA number one now. Waiting a reveal or two will only be more controversial.
I appreciate your passion and reasoning on the subject. Unfortunately your off base in my opinion. Minus a monumental upset, UConn will be the #1 overall seed. You can bank on it.
 
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