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UVA dumpster fire continues

One thing in UVAs favor is the breadth of their successful sports programs. Football and men’s basketball are the most important sports at all schools..UVA is good, and at times great, in both. The “second tier” (my definition) sports are generally excellent at UVA - baseball, tennis, lacrosse, soccer, swimming, track, rowing, etc. So UVA certainly has a culture of excellence in both sports and academics. Women’s basketball, in more recent years, is the outlier. No reason, in my mind, that they can’t again be excellent in women’s bb… just not with the current coach!
 
Tina Thompson and Lisa Leslie were the co-coaches of the WNBA All Star team that defeated Team USA in July, 2021 by the score of 93-85.
TT didn't lead the WNBA team into defeat.


She also hired ex-NBA player James Posey to be a UVA assistant coach in July, 2021.


The team has shown some improvement & progress since Mir joined.
 
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What seems to have really hurt VA was when they cancelled the remainder of their 2020-21 season.
That must have caused the team to disintegrate.
Prior to that TT had recruited some well ranked players who left after the season was cancelled.
That's why she needed to bring in a bunch of transfers.


 
Would Tammi Reiss (Rhode Island) be the favorite to take over if the Virginia job opened?
 
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She probably has the choice of Syracuse or UVA. Kinda like choosing between broccoli and asparagus at this point .. but at least UVA is home.
I want her for Rutgers. She’ll be close to home too. NYC.
 
She probably has the choice of Syracuse or UVA. Kinda like choosing between broccoli and asparagus at this point .. but at least UVA is home.
If broccoli and asparagus are being served plain, I get it. If the broccoli is being served with a nice cheddar cheese sauce and the asparagus is wrapped in bacon, different story.
 
If broccoli and asparagus are being served plain, I get it. If the broccoli is being served with a nice cheddar cheese sauce and the asparagus is wrapped in bacon, different story.
I never heard anyone brag about the short, mild winters in Syracuse.
 
If broccoli and asparagus are being served plain, I get it. If the broccoli is being served with a nice cheddar cheese sauce and the asparagus is wrapped in bacon, different story.
One of my favorite discoveries of the last couple of decades is penne with a thick smoked gouda sauce with asparagus, bacon, coarse cracked black pepper, and mushrooms in it. And wouldn't you know, I have a pound of smoked gouda in the fridge.
 
One of my favorite discoveries of the last couple of decades is penne with a thick smoked gouda sauce with asparagus, bacon, coarse cracked black pepper, and mushrooms in it. And wouldn't you know, I have a pound of smoked gouda in the fridge.
One of the most underrated cheeses out there................and I'm really hungry now! :D
 
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UVA last won an ACC title in 1999-00 with a 25-9 (13-3) record. Their next best and last competitive season was 2008 Tied for 3rd, 24-10 (10-4). Other than those seasons, nothing since 2000 says they should be a top program.

It is an interesting question given that ACC now has ND, Louisville, NC State and a revitalized NC program. Duke seems to be knocking again at the door so I don't know that I agree that Virginia can be a top 4 program again. Just because you were elite 22+ years ago, does entitle you to think you should be now- Louisiana Tech, Purdue, Penn State, Old Dominion, Montana (yes, 21 NCAA appearances!) to just name a few former elite programs who have done nothing in the last 10 years.
If you have "support" for your program - and the financial and facility resources are there - then in fact any program can aspire to be near the top of their conference. For many years, in spite of a "history" NC State was completely unspectacular.

The issue with La Tech, ODU and Montana - ultimately - is a lack of resources that enable them to compete at a national level. Montana is a bit of a red-herring to your argument. They were not an ODU or LaTech competing at a national level; they just had a very good coach and won their conference every year. They were not otherwise particularly notable.

I have this argument with some Rutgers fans. There is no reason that Rutgers has a claim to being a final four contender at some point in the future. But, like Virginia, Purdue and Penn State, with the right coach that possibility is there, because the resources are there.
If you guys have an hour to kill this weekend, I very highly recommend watching The House that Rob Built about Robin Selvig's tenure as the head coach at Montana. He was a hell of a coach who changed a lot of lives for mostly Montana kids.

It's free on Tubi (with ads, link below)!

 
If you guys have an hour to kill this weekend, I very highly recommend watching The House that Rob Built about Robin Selvig's tenure as the head coach at Montana. He was a hell of a coach who changed a lot of lives for mostly Montana kids.

It's free on Tubi (with ads, link below)!

I don't have time to watch it, but don't misunderstand my remark. I do know how remarkable Selvig was and the consistency of his program. I suspect he is not the only coach that labored for years and were very successful, albeit not on the national stage.

The problem Montana and others face is that there is a very real talent gap (acerbated no doubt by financial and facility considerations) between what we would term mid-majors and the Power 5. ODU and La Tech were powers before the gap became so wide. They went down fast, not because they suddenly had bad coaching or tore down their facilities, but because they couldn't attract athletes that were among the best.
 
I don't have time to watch it, but don't misunderstand my remark. I do know how remarkable Selvig was and the consistency of his program. I suspect he is not the only coach that labored for years and were very successful, albeit not on the national stage.

The problem Montana and others face is that there is a very real talent gap (acerbated no doubt by financial and facility considerations) between what we would term mid-majors and the Power 5. ODU and La Tech were powers before the gap became so wide. They went down fast, not because they suddenly had bad coaching or tore down their facilities, but because they couldn't attract athletes that were among the best.
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with your point. I completely agree with it. Gone are the days when you can gather a bunch of small town kids who love basketball and are willing to die (figuratively) on the court for you every night and make a big name for yourself. However, ODU and LaTech, were getting the elite players while Selvig was cruising the hi-line, the farms, and the rez -- definitely different talent pools, even through the 80s and 90s.

But, if you're the best coach, the best kids will find you. Obviously unrealistic, but if Geno left this season and took the head coaching job at Montana as a stepping stone to spending his retirement running a cattle ranch, it wouldn't matter what facilities they had or what conference they were in.

PS - I hope you're not completely serious in saying that you don't have a free hour this weekend. Not because you need to watch anything I share, but because that's not sustainable. Take care of yourself!
 
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Well at least UVA won't be the #15 seed in the ACC tournament. I was actually scared that we would have to face them again on Wednesday. When I saw that it would be Duke vs Pitt instead...


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If broccoli and asparagus are being served plain, I get it. If the broccoli is being served with a nice cheddar cheese sauce and the asparagus is wrapped in bacon, different story.

I'd go for the asparagus wrapped in bacon.... and then throw the asparagus in the garbage can.

Broccoli >>> Asparagus

Given the choice, I almost rather go into the backyard, pick up some grass... and eat it instead.
 
Anyone wants a free ticket to the Wake-UVA matchup on Wednesday Evening??? I bought it by mistake... and not sure if I'm going to use it. Should be an exciting matchup... throw out the record books...
 
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Yesterday's win over Duke nonwithstanding, the UVa mess continues.

The Cavs have now forfeited their SECOND game of the season. This one -- a home game on Tuesday vs ND.
Why? Who knows.
But I'm guessing they just don't want to play. The have a home game against Pitt on Sunday which they will play, so it's not like players are injured/sick.

And of course their first forfeit against Louisville was also for sketchy reasons. Funny how these forfeits are against the top quarter of the conference.

This is bad. Tina needs to go.
Thompson now says that it would’ve put an “academic strain” on her kids so they forfeited.
A home game.

I have never heard a game cancelled or forfeited for this reason.

Never.

To me this is just players/coaches who aren’t all that interested in playing. Which makes me wonder why they are in D1.

 
Thompson now says that it would’ve put an “academic strain” on her kids so they forfeited.
A home game.

I have never heard a game cancelled or forfeited for this reason.

Never.

To me this is just players/coaches who aren’t all that interested in playing. Which makes me wonder why they are in D1.

That’s just BS. Time to start a new poll. How many days till Tina is gone?

My jaw got an early drop to the floor when I read this story. To repeat what @Vowelguy wrote: a home game against a rival would put strain on the team? Hold it:
  • don't players/ coaches want to play games?
  • also, what about the team that has to take a plane ride to get there? ND wanted to play that game to earn their way into the ACC Top Four.

Apparently, AD Carla Williams wasn't made available on the state of her WBB program. She'd better get ready and/or be ready working behind the scenes: this is unbelievable.
 
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This was a bad hire to begin with. Thompson's basketball skills are beyond reproach but she simply didn't have the experience to run a D1 basketball program. Not even talking about the actual games, but the entire program is in disarray.
 
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This was a bad hire to begin with. Thompson's basketball skills are beyond reproach but she simply didn't have the experience to run a D1 basketball program. Not even talking about the actual games, but the entire program is in disarray.
She was an assistant at Texas and presumably had done ok there?
 
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My suggested candidates or

Dear Ms. Williams:

Time for a first and second call to arrange an interview with Tammi Reiss, who -- just in case you weren't aware;) -- the now very successful coach of Rhode Island's WBB team who happens to have been backcourt partner with one Dawn Staley back in UVA's heyday. Plus she coached that URI team that came to UVA and won in December.

Other possible thoughts if that does not work out:

- Dayton's Shauna Green, another Atlantic 10 team who is superb, year in and year out.

- Megan Duffy. Hear me out here, Marquette lovers.
Marquette is a largely senior-based team (and two of those are grad students). While Meg's recruited ok, there's nothing comparable at the underclass level and/or in the pipleline.

She could leave after a few great years and then get quite some time to build up a program, which we know she can do, after great work at Miami.
The only hurdle there might be why two Marquette kids (who were playing a lot) left to go to UVA and that dumpster fire.

That said, I'd keep all eyes on Rhode Island, initially and then some.
 
After the statement about the forfeits, when other schools had 5 games in 9 days and didn't forfeit, somone had to do something. Virginia wasn't alone in students missing classes.

I’ve never heard of players not wanting to play games.

I believe there were 3 major schools that cancelled their seasons last year. 2 of those coaches — Vandy, uva — are now gone.
 
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