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Waquoit said:
The studio guy called it handball, so what? You brought up the Fabinho red herring as a false equivalent.
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No idea what you're trying to communicate here.

red herring? false equivalent? What?

I wrote that Fabinho didn't touch the ball. The announcers all said that. So did the studio hosts. Everyone thinks that except you. Fabinho himself probably disagrees with you.
 
upstater said:
I wrote that Fabinho didn't touch the ball. The announcers all said that. So did the studio hosts. Everyone thinks that except you. Fabinho himself probably disagrees with you.
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The ref who didn't give the foul after reviewing it agreed with me. They showed a slo-mo replay at the half. Studio host Tim Howard took us through it saying "[Fabinho] gets the ball just at the vital moment, gives away a corner. No penalty." The replay clearly shows he gets the ball. Yet you write the drivel above. The ref made two correct calls and you think both should have been called differently. I guess everyday is opposite day for you.
 
Waquoit said:
The ref who didn't give the foul after reviewing it agreed with me. They showed a slo-mo replay at the half. Studio host Tim Howard took us through it saying "[Fabinho] gets the ball just at the vital moment, gives away a corner. No penalty." The replay clearly shows he gets the ball. Yet you write the drivel above. The ref made two correct calls and you think both should have been called differently. I guess everyday is opposite day for you.
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Bizarre.

You're saying the ref agreed with you. Holy cow. I'm criticizing the ref. To call your comment obtuse would be generous.

The replay clearly showed he DID NOT get the ball and the announcers all agreed he did not get the ball. In the studio, the other hosts actually disagreed with Howard. It was 5-1 disagreeing with him.
 
upstater said:
Bizarre.

You're saying the ref agreed with you. Holy cow. I'm criticizing the ref. To call your comment obtuse would be generous.
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Not bizarre. You are trying to say the ref should have let the handball go because he let the foul go. But there was no foul! Both calls were made correctly and you think he should have decided to call them both incorrectly. Because Liverpool? Don't worry, Liverpool hasn't been winning VAR all season and they didn't here.
 
Waquoit said:
Not bizarre. You are trying to say the ref should have let the handball go because he let the foul go. But there was no foul! Both calls were made correctly and you think he should have decided to call them both incorrectly. Because Liverpool? Don't worry, Liverpool hasn't been winning VAR all season and they didn't here.
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You missed what I said entirely.

I like Liverpool, by the way.

I said the ref should be consistent. He awarded a penalty in one case on a clearly iffy call, since you can't even see the ball hit the guy's arm (on the right side of the wall). It definitely hit the guy on the left in the arm, but that arm was across the chest.

All i said is he should just be consistent in not giving penalties since that's what he did on the first one (and the majority of the experts watching agreed that Fabinho did not get the ball). The announcers were fairly shocked at the refs decision, and all afternoon everyone called it a "controversy." You're trying to make it seem as though I'm the one making this a controversy when it has been roundly recognized by anyone. Which is why I called what you said bizarre.
 
Did anyone watch Pulisic yesterday? He looks really good, but damn he gets fouled so much. Every time he comes to play for the USMNT he’s going to be really banged up.
 
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Juventus - Atalanta is super entertaining. Ronaldo just got stoned by the Atalanta goalie on a PK. Same goalie had saved one with his face minutes earlier. Another beautiful save on de Ligt now. Gasperini thought that Ronaldo's PK was so preposterous that he began to openly mock the ref with laughter when his goalie made the save. If Gasperini were Johnny Most, you'd be hearing a derisive "La giustizia prevale!" sounding through the stadium. He got a yellow card for that.
 
ZooCougar said:
Did anyone watch Pulisic yesterday? He looks really good, but damn he gets fouled so much. Every time he comes to play for the USMNT he’s going to be really banged up
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The cavalry is coming. WCQs pulisic will be the leader but plenty of others now to focus on. Gotta figure Reyna, mckennie with Dest bombing up the sidelines will take some attention off CP
 
LIuconn said:
The cavalry is coming. WCQs pulisic will be the leader but plenty of others now to focus on. Gotta figure Reyna, mckennie with Dest bombing up the sidelines will take some attention off CP
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Just wait until Gregggggg starts Pulisic at Right Back.
 
Reyna looks to be every bit as good as Pulisic and perhaps better. These kids are are seem to be popping up all over the place.
 
Inverted RB/CM
G3 is in so far over his head

We have the spine of the squad set for 10 years with health and natural progression. And MLS is gonna somehow F it all up
 
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Pulisic has been a bit sloppy going at players or making a connecting pass at the end of his dribbles
 
LIuconn said:
Pulisic has been a bit sloppy going at players or making a connecting pass at the end of his dribbles
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I think a lot of the problem is Werner. He’s been really bad, and doesn’t offer the link up play Giroud does.
 
Werner looks like his confidence is shot and Havertz is invisible. But CP, last couple games is getting the ball taken off of him, Having it go out of bounds, not getting the cross off -- at least what I've seen anyway. He's still deserving of his place in the team as he's the most dynamic attacker
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Long read on ESPN, some good points, some head-scratchers

www.espn.com

USMNT 2021 to-do list: Find a striker, build depth behind stars and determine future of veterans

The USMNT played just four matches in a 2020 turned upside down by COVID-19, so ESPN details what Gregg Berhalter & Co. need to accomplish in 2021.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Welp, I guess I'm not crazy after all for saying this:

"To me, this group is a culmination of the development system in America," said Berhalter. "The Development Academy had a lot to do with it, and now you're starting to see that it's a systematic development of players."
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gtcam said:
Your opinion can't be more wrong
You and others who sing this tune don't know the personnel that play on the national teams from the U-17 and up. Many are fantastic multi faceted athletes that could or have excelled at multiple sports. They play soccer for the love of the game. Americans are spoiled with a variety of sports that pay huge dollars to those who participate so it's only natural that most would migrate to those sports. If the rest of the world had baseball leagues and American football leagues that paid more on average vs the soccer leagues - it would most likely mirror what is happening in the USA.
I coached soccer for nearly 30 years up to the college level and many of my players were actually proficient at dribbling and shooting a basketball or pitching/hitting a baseball and many could be doing that at a very high level if they chose.
You don't need approval to express your opinion here but if you do, there will be others who have more experience/knowledge in that area and will retort your opine.
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That may all be true, but can you imagine LeBron James as a goalie?
 
Met John Starks of '90's Knicks fame at a Kicks game a few years back doing while attending a business event. had the opportunity to bring my basketball-crazy younger son with me. Took a bit of prodding, but I got him to go talk to him. He asked what he could do to be a better basketball player. Starks asked him if he played soccer. My son said yes. Starks told him the conditioning, footwork, the eye game (seeing the defense, passing lanes, anticipating player's movement) from soccer would help him a lot.
 
Jordan Morris to join Swansea in days. It should put another American in the Premier League. Of all the MLS payers on the USMNT, I always thought he was headed for better things. He has a physical presence that not many of our forward have. Wish him he best of luck.

www.sounderatheart.com

Why would Jordan Morris go on loan to Swansea?

Here’s everything you need to better understand Morris’ potential move abroad.
www.sounderatheart.com www.sounderatheart.com
 
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^ ha!
Will be interesting to see what happens if Swansea goes up and he contributes
 
Palatine said:
Jordan Morris to join Swansea in days. It should put another American in the Premier League. Of all the MLS payers on the USMNT, I always thought he was headed for better things. He has a physical presence that not many of our forward have. Wish him he best of luck.

www.sounderatheart.com

Why would Jordan Morris go on loan to Swansea?

Here’s everything you need to better understand Morris’ potential move abroad.
www.sounderatheart.com www.sounderatheart.com
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It would put another in the Prem if Swansea were there. We're in the Championship but currently in second. We just landed Hourihane from Villa and look to be in good form. Hopefully it holds and we'll be back up.

I'm not sure where I fall on my opinion of Morris.
 
UCFBfan said:
It would put another in the Prem if Swansea were there. We're in the Championship but currently in second. We just landed Hourihane from Villa and look to be in good form. Hopefully it holds and we'll be back up.

I'm not sure where I fall on my opinion of Morris.
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Morris isn't Renya or CP. But he is a very solid player. I know people like to run down the MLS players. I don't watch the MLS so I have no opinion on that. But I watch the USMNT. He's in the right places. Moves well for his size. And scores fairly regularly. And I see him as a valuable piece.
 
He's physical so he can rely on his toughness and speed. Technical ability down the flank and in tight spaces will be the test. Rooting for him, we need big capable attackers who can force goals in international play
 
Palatine said:
Morris isn't Renya or CP. But he is a very solid player. I know people like to run down the MLS players. I don't watch the MLS so I have no opinion on that. But I watch the USMNT. He's in the right places. Moves well for his size. And scores fairly regularly. And I see him as a valuable piece.
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He's this generation's version of Altidore, though not as good, but so far, less injury prone. Depending on the formation and the style of soccer a team uses, he can play a role very well.
 
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