USF….
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They’re looking good. Last week Boise State now shocker in Gainesville.
I live midway between Gainesville and Tampa. They’re getting some attention.
Maybe partner to the Big 12?
Central Florida (Tampa, Orlando, Ocala) are expecting significant growth and many of those folks are coming from the Northeast.
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I don't even care. The ACC is going to lose its biggest commodities soon. Go ahead and backfill with USF, Tulane and Memphis. It's AAC 2.0...not that interesting to me.
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Getting into the AAU, new football stadium, team seems great, they're in Florida.
Tons of momentum. I mean, no where to go, but they're heading towards the closed doors with great momentum.
Reminder that UConn tops the G5 in revenue, the metric that actually matters in CR, and the next closest is like $25M short
Winning a game in Gainesville isn't getting USF into a conference. They've had great seasons before. Y'all sound silly
Winning a game in Gainesville isn't getting USF into a conference. They've had great seasons before. Y'all sound silly
P2 doors? Yes, they are closed for USF.
There is going to be a tier below that. I believe that tier will consist of Big 12 and ACC schools plus some G5 programs. It may include some P2 demotions as well. I think this is where the likes of UConn, USF, Tulane, etc will end up. And that’s fine with me.
Tier 1 (P2) is top 40 schools. Tier 2 is next 60. We belong in Tier 2.
Hoops is a different story. Tier 1 could easily include 200 schools.
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Your numbers are outdated. USF has significantly increased their AD spending and spent $95.4 million in 2024.
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“The revenue figures are from the Department of Education’s Equity in Athletics Data Analysis and the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athleticsfor the fiscal year 2023.”
So what are the 2025 figures? That was the first result on Google when I searched for 2025, and the article was last updated in January
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Here are the numbers:
Interestingly, if you drop us into a P4 conference say the ACC, as currently configured, or the big 12, our revenue would go up by about $35 million for conference media rights distributions plus another 15 million in college football playoff distribution money. Adding $50 million to the revenue listed above puts us pretty much at a tie for number 34 with Louisville:
Note that that does include 4 1/2 million dollars of big east media, distribution rights, but doesn't include an increase in attendance, merchandise, sales, or donations.
(I think we are the victims of circular reasoning here. UConn doesn't deserve to be in the P4 because its revenue isn't high enough, but its revenue isn't high enough because it's not a member of the P4. It has a very "Catch-22" feel to it.)
Interestingly, if you drop us into a P4 conference say the ACC, as currently configured, or the big 12, our revenue would go up by about $35 million for conference media rights distributions plus another 15 million in college football playoff distribution money. Adding $50 million to the revenue listed above puts us pretty much at a tie for number 34 with Louisville:
Note that that does include 4 1/2 million dollars of big east media, distribution rights, but doesn't include an increase in attendance, merchandise, sales, or donations.
(I think we are the victims of circular reasoning here. UConn doesn't deserve to be in the P4 because its revenue isn't high enough, but its revenue isn't high enough because it's not a member of the P4. It has a very "Catch-22" feel to it.)
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USF will be equal to or greater to UConn when ACC backfills or Big12 expands.
@NH Husky nailed it. It's already AAU, has a massive student population and growing alumni base, it's in a large metro area, in a large state which cares about CFBz and it's endowment is almost $900M.
Their on campus stadium will be ready for start of 2027 season.
@NH Husky nailed it. It's already AAU, has a massive student population and growing alumni base, it's in a large metro area, in a large state which cares about CFBz and it's endowment is almost $900M.
Their on campus stadium will be ready for start of 2027 season.
This is the page I linked. UConn wins big in the metrics that matter for realignment. The rest of the G5 isn't close lol (barring SDSU)
Ask yourself why the B12 approached UConn and not USF, Tulane, Memphis, etc
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Yep. I just screenshot it a couple of relevant pages to make it easier for people to look at it. Thanks for the link! It's good info.
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They’re hot at the right time
Which is it? The doomsayers say the door is shut to any realignment for the next several years. Now they are worried USF will jump us (if anything we’d both backfill at the same time to an ACC with multiple defections).
We were in a league with USF. They were mediocrity personified. But hey UCF had their “championship” season and were the hot new thing too. Now they are a Big 12 after thought.
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It won’t be an issue because we likely aren’t being considered anyways.
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If it mattered we would be in a P4 right now.
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The USF numbers are outdated as they have considerably increased athletics spending for 2024 and 2025. They know that the time is now as conference realignment will heat up in a few years and they want a better landing spot. That said, USF men's basketball has never finished a season ranked which is a big negative.
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FY24 is the last year reported - they are in FY25 currently:
-> UConn released the financial data on Wednesday. The school reported $105,579,698 in revenue and $100,969,851 in expenses for fiscal year 2024, when it continued to operate at levels required to compete nationally across the board despite living outside the lucrative world of power conferences. <-
Here some insight on USF growth:
-> USF’s athletic spending ballooned to $95.4 million in 2024, according to financial records.<-
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I didn't see this thread and I was posting over in the Football board. Maybe the threads can be merged, or we just forget about USF.
I think if there is any p4 movement, USF is far ahead of everyone and for UConn:
I think if there is any p4 movement, USF is far ahead of everyone and for UConn:
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and UNLV just won the battle of the initials over UCLA. I doubt it happens but it is Vegas
USF was always a great get for expansion and realignment. The Tampa market, a natural I-4 rivalry for UCF, massive enrollment, and now, after the blowout win over Boise State and the shocker at Florida, the football program appears to be ready to go to the CFP as a Group of Five champion.
Meanwhile, UNLV should’ve been a Big 12 program last year. It doesn’t want the Pac-12, it wants the bigger money from the power conference, and it has what everyone seems to want - Las Vegas.
Media days are held there, lots of tournaments, and conference championships are a given. And now, there appears to be staying power with the football program, with Dan Mullen starting 3-0 after a win over UCLA.
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Big 12, what are you waiting for?USF was always a great get for expansion and realignment. The Tampa market, a natural I-4 rivalry for UCF, massive enrollment, and now, after the blowout win over Boise State and the shocker at Florida, the football program appears to be ready to go to the CFP as a Group of Five champion.
Meanwhile, UNLV should’ve been a Big 12 program last year. It doesn’t want the Pac-12, it wants the bigger money from the power conference, and it has what everyone seems to want - Las Vegas.
Media days are held there, lots of tournaments, and conference championships are a given. And now, there appears to be staying power with the football program, with Dan Mullen starting 3-0 after a win over UCLA.
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