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YoDore said:
Can't argue with that. Well, maybe a little. I'd keep Tennessee where they are. Maybe Auburn in the second tier, though? It's going to be a very intense conference schedule with some battles among the teams at the top and among those in the middle. I said it last year, and I'll say it again...somebody has to beat South Carolina before I'll believe it. I still think they're the best team in the country.
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UT will be top four SEC this year, maybe top 3, watch.
 
GamecockFam said:
..and speaking of next year, does the ruling with Diego Pavia about JUCO eligibility mean that Sakima Walker has the option to come back next year?

Long story short for those not in the know, the quarterback at Vanderbilt, Diego Pavia, sued the NCAA for another two years of eligibility due to using up two years of eligibility in JUCO. I'm not a lawyer but my interpretation is that they are temporarily allowing one more year of eligibility to all seniors who would have ran out of eligibility at the end of this season AND have played at least one year in JUCO. I believe they made this injunction just in case they didn't give a verdict before Pavia runs out of eligibility. It seems like Sakima (and a few other Gamecocks like Cam Pringle and Bam Martin-Scott) would have the option to play one more season...

www.espn.com

Vanderbilt's Diego Pavia granted injunction allowing for added eligibility

A federal judge in Tennessee granted an injunction Wednesday that allows Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia to pursue another year of eligibility and could represent another significant blow to the NCAA's ability to enforce its own rules.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Not at the moment. I posted a Sports Yahoo article in another thread about the ruling and per their report, it only applies to Pavia right now.
 
Darwin said:
UT will be top four SEC this year, maybe top 3, watch.
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I want to watch them play somebody good before I think they’ll be better than SC, Texas, LSU or Oklahoma. Right now they have better athletes than the people they are playing. Iowa is not as good as everybody wanted to think they were. Will be interesting for sure.
 
TC22 said:
…UConn had 3 #1 players on the court last night and lost their 2nd game of the year. Dawn has only had 1 #1 players EVER (A’ja) and has lost 2 games in 2+ years.
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Lol better hope our hosts don’t wander in and find this. At this rate, it’ll be days before ESPN runs another ‘Is UConn the favorite? Many are saying!… ( it’s us. We are “Many”)’
 
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JstVisiting said:
Lol better hope our hosts don’t wander in and find this. At this rate, it’ll be days before ESPN runs another ‘Is UConn the favorite? Many are saying!… ( it’s us. We are “Many”)’
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I was really just trying to emphasize that Dawn does know what she’s doing with her player rotations. Wasn’t meant to say anything bad about the other one but yeah, I could see that getting the side-eye.:rolleyes:
 
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TC22 said:
I want to watch them play somebody good before I think they’ll be better than SC, Texas, LSU or Oklahoma. Right now they have better athletes than the people they are playing. Iowa is not as good as everybody wanted to think they were. Will be interesting for sure.
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I agree with almost all of this, but I do think that Iowa may be as good as everyone expects them to be. They have a new PG and HC, so there will be a few growing pains. Also, Hannah Stuelke is not nearly as good as everyone thought she'd be because she's not a PF but must play there out of necessity (she's an undersized center who can't play her natural position because Addison O'Grady is better there for them).
 
So? How do we get Chloe Kitts to play better? IMO- not currently playing at her level of competency.
 
Creature said:
So? How do we get Chloe Kitts to play better? IMO- not currently playing at her level of competency.
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Part of me worries if this is a "square peg in a round hole" issue. I trust the staff and it is probably in her best interest to do what she is currently doing, but I also sometimes feel like we don't take advantage of her ability to shoot the 10 footer and instead she is posting up too much. We need to use her like Kiki Herbert Harrigan during her senior year.
 
Creature said:
So? How do we get Chloe Kitts to play better? IMO- not currently playing at her level of competency.
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Get her easy, confidence-boosting shots early on. Here's where Raven has to play better and use better discernment (or go with Maddy earlier).

Also, Chloe needs to take a page out of Joyce's and Te-Hina's books and make things happen.
 
WBBTakeover said:
Get her easy, confidence-boosting shots early on. Here's where Raven has to play better and use better discernment (or go with Maddy earlier).

Also, Chloe needs to take a page out of Joyce's and Te-Hina's books and make things happen.
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If Chloe can't get playing time she may transfer out. Her sister plays at Florida (the family is from Florida also) and isn't she dating Colin Murry-Boyles? He will be a first-round draft pick and with no ties to South Carolina after that she may transfer out. I think she is a much better player than what she has shown this year. I think Dawn said she had some confidence issues early on that had to be addressed. She's a good player so she doesn't have to be thrust in a position she isn't comfortable with. I will be a Chloe fan regardless. She would be a great pickup for any team. This is where depth hurts. She is starting every game but not getting the minutes. It may not be enough to just be a starter with low minutes.
 
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visitingcock said:
Why are we worried about Chloe’s PT against Charleston Southern and Wofford?

Coach has wanted to see all the other bigs get experience in those practice games. look at Chloe’s minutes against our Quade One and Two opponents.
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Well, let's see how it progresses...Dawns words after the Duke game, "Chloe has said she wants us to believe in her, and I told her we do believe in her." That was an issue. I hope it was resolved but that could very well become an issue when trying to set up your WNBA draft status. It was an issue with Herbert-Harrington, and it worked out. This is a different time with the NIL and looking to improve your draft status. It's going to get worse.
 
I think come March, SC's best lineup is Watkins/Edwards/Johnson/Fulwiley/Pao Pao. This is largely dependent on Fulwiley's ability to play under control and make good decisions, but I think SC is most dangerous if they can find cohesion with these 5 (or sub Kitts for Edwards).
 
Some thoughts on last night’s game vs Mizzou:
1. Our depth overwhelmed the Tigers, with our athleticism on defense providing the separation. Typical Gamecock box score: 4-5 players in double figures for points, and just as many with between 5-9 points. We played ten, and all scored.
2. Kitts cannot physically handle low post play… but she probably can play a high post and shoot mid-range jumpers. Her confidence seems lacking, but not her effort.
3. Watkins is our dominant big… another double-double… and her coast-to-coast score was impressive.
4. While impressing so far as a true freshman, Edwards is still a work in progress… too many ticky-tack fouls and missed layups, but she’s gonna be a star… a more agile version of Boston.
5. Fulwiley had her best all around game of the year, highlighted by her definitive block.
6. Paopao is the steady hand on the tiller… leads by example.
7. We miss Maddie on point, but better she get healthy and be available for the tougher SEC matchups.
8. Loved seeing the bench cheer on Tac, who had a career high in points.
9. Easy to underestimate the contributions of Raven and Bree… both defend well, and both can hit a 3 if left open. Their experience in SEC and postseason play is a force multiplier.
10. The other conference games played last night were interesting… Texas came from behind to win, but Beers looked strong for the Sooners. Kentucky looked strong, as did Tennessee. Gonna be no mercy shown by anyone in the SEC this season.
 
Kentucky- Coach Brooks is not accustomed to the physicality of the SEC just yet. Therefore thst team is soft.

Tenn: new coach- not use to SEC ball yet physicality of other teams defense. Opening the floor up for the Opp. By pressing all the time. This us not s prince but a frog my friend

Tx & OK. Vic has only beaten Dawn twice. Oklahoma plays the same system as Arkansas.
 
Kentucky- Coach Brooks is not accustomed to the physicality of the SEC just yet. Therefore thst team is soft.

Tenn: new coach- not use to SEC ball yet ;physicality of other teams defense. Opening the floor up for the Opp. By pressing all the time. This is not prince but a frog my friend
 
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Creature said:
Kentucky- Coach Brooks is not accustomed to the physicality of the SEC just yet. Therefore thst team is soft.

Tenn: new coach- not use to SEC ball yet physicality of other teams defense. Opening the floor up for the Opp. By pressing all the time. This us not s prince but a frog my friend

Tx & OK. Vic has only beaten Dawn twice. Oklahoma plays the same system as Arkansas.
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Kenny Brooks used to complain about physicality in the ACC. He's in for a RUDE awakening in the SEC. I think Vanderbilt pulls the upset tomorrow--or at least I hope they do (they've got some talented pieces).

I'm interested in seeing what Tennessee brings during the meat of the SEC schedule. They are one of the biggest surprises of the season so far.

Oklahoma doesn't defend, so there's that. Also, Beers is a little too prone to foul trouble against good teams. Vic is Vic--not usually a problem for Dawn's teams.
 
WBBTakeover said:
Kenny Brooks used to complain about physicality in the ACC. He's in for a RUDE awakening in the SEC. I think Vanderbilt pulls the upset tomorrow--or at least I hope they do (they've got some talented pieces).

I'm interested in seeing what Tennessee brings during the meat of the SEC schedule. They are one of the biggest surprises of the season so far.

Oklahoma doesn't defend, so there's that. Also, Beers is a little too prone to foul trouble against good teams. Vic is Vic--not usually a problem for Dawn's teams.
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Tennessee is still a relatively unknown quantity. I'm interested to see how Beers affects their system and if she will cause Tennessee to make more calculated substitutions / make Tennessee sacrifice speed for size.

I know one thing for sure, it'll be a high octane game as both teams like to play fast!
 
Thoughts on the Mississippi State game:
1. Very nice game by Kitts, and one that should help her confidence.
2. Feagin didn’t do much, which is problematic because of Watkins’s injury.
3. Really concerned about Watkins… when two staff members have to carry you off the court and you don’t return, even in a boot, it looks serious. Hope I’m wrong.
4. Tessa, Tehina, and Raven had strong games. Fulwiley, not so much… took some ill-advised 3 pointers, and seems only to want to make a potential highlight play on a drive to the hoop. Her defense has improved over last year. Her first half minutes were reduced, and I think all of her points came in the second half.
5. It was a Jekyll and Hyde game for Edwards. She seems more comfortable than our other bigs on offense in the low post, but then seems lost on defense in the low post. Still on a learning curve… glad she’s a Gamecock. If Watkins misses considerable time, Edwards will get more minutes.
6. Our next opponent, Texas A&M, beat a ranked Ole Miss team. Glad we’ll get them on our home court. Oklahoma barely beat Tennessee, after squandering a big lead.

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USMC(ret) said:
Thoughts on the Mississippi State game:
1. Very nice game by Kitts, and one that should help her confidence.
2. Feagin didn’t do much, which is problematic because of Watkins’s injury.
3. Really concerned about Watkins… when two staff members have to carry you off the court and you don’t return, even in a boot, it looks serious. Hope I’m wrong.
4. Tessa, Tehina, and Raven had strong games. Fulwiley, not so much… took some ill-advised 3 pointers, and seems only to want to make a potential highlight play on a drive to the hoop. Her defense has improved over last year. Her first half minutes were reduced, and I think all of her points came in the second half.
5. It was a Jekyll and Hyde game for Edwards. She seems more comfortable than our other bigs on offense in the low post, but then seems lost on defense in the low post. Still on a learning curve… glad she’s a Gamecock. If Watkins misses considerable time, Edwards will get more minutes.
6. Our next opponent, Texas A&M, beat a ranked Ole Miss team. Glad we’ll get them on our home court. Oklahoma barely beat Tennessee, after squandering a big lead.

YMMV
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Watkin's Dad said she tweaked her knee and in the after-game interview CDS said that she was not brought to the hospital. All signs point towards a minor injury.
 
Clempsun’s big week with wins over Cal and Stanford makes them a Quad 1 at home. Wee now have a 6-1 Quad One record. Briefly.
 
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GamecockFam said:
Watkin's Dad said she tweaked her knee and in the after-game interview CDS said that she was not brought to the hospital. All signs point towards a minor injury.
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Hopefully this is the case. I think she’s the most irreplaceable piece for South Carolina. I don’t see SC winning a 4th title if she isn’t in the lineup. There isn’t another post as athletic or imposing defensively.
 
bballnut90 said:
Hopefully this is the case. I think she’s the most irreplaceable piece for South Carolina. I don’t see SC winning a 4th title if she isn’t in the lineup. There isn’t another post as athletic or imposing defensively.
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I agree, though I think that Joyce Edwards could develop into an imposing defender by the NCAA tournament.
 
Wouldn’t mind seeing Ashlyn take some rest Thursday vs A&M and be fresh for Texas on Sunday. Tac could do with some extra minutes against her home state aggies but we’ll need Ashlyn against the Horns.
 
GamecockFam said:
Watkin's Dad said she tweaked her knee and in the after-game interview CDS said that she was not brought to the hospital. All signs point towards a minor injury.
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Hate to say it but Mr. Watkins is not a doctor..so i take his assessment with justified skepticism (even though he spoke with Ash)
 
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